2016 League Post Game Results Here

[Shin-Ji]

While we’re doing small adjustments, my last win against MrRoboto had me as Allies.  The title of the thread was wrong for some reason, but I see it was recorded as an Axis win.

[MrRoboto]

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37292.0

cyanight (axis) over MrRoboto (allies+20)

[gamerman01]

@Shin:

While we’re doing small adjustments, my last win against MrRoboto had me as Allies.  The title of the thread was wrong for some reason, but I see it was recorded as an Axis win.

I’m confused

[Shin-Ji]

Thought you might be.  It’s more than a little confusing.  I keep double checking myself.

Under the balanced Mod Games section of the spreadsheet, I’m recorded as having one win as Axis against MrRoboto.  I was playing the Allies in that game, not the Axis.  That’s all.  :)

[MrRoboto]

Shin Ji won against me again, this time really as axis =(

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37138.120

And again, I lost by a blunder. Two games, two grave mistakes. Feels bad.  :cry:

[Talleyrand19]

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37356.75

Omega1759 (Allies) defeats Talleyrand19 (Axis)

[gamerman01]

@MrRoboto:

Shin Ji won against me again, this time really as axis =(

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37138.120

And again, I lost by a blunder. Two games, two grave mistakes. Feels bad.  :cry:

Roboto, that’s not the right link.  That’s the link to this thread

Don’t worry about it, I found your game

[Giallo]

MrRoboto over Giallo(axis) BM

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37248.135

[Radiant]

Arthur Bomber Harris (Axis) over Radiant (Allies +21)

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37343.45

UK couldn’t fight out of a wet paper bag to save their lives.

[Talleyrand19]

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37264.0

Cyanight (Allies) over Talleyrand19 (Axis)

[MrRoboto]

Omega1759 (Allies+16) over MrRoboto (Axis) in a crazy dice game.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37350.0

[MrRoboto]

And Arthur Bomber Harris (axis) over MrRoboto (Allies) balanced mode.

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=37321.0

That whole massive bomber strategy with Germany, developed about a year ago, really destroys the game. It is no fun to play against. Maybe I’m too stupid to find something against that, but if it continues to be so popular among Axis players, I don’t know if I want to continue playing the game at all, or at least the Allies.

[gamerman01]

Interceptors defending at 2 was probably partially designed to help with that?
It is a lot of work to play against.  They can’t attack everything at once, though.  If he gets lucky, yeah…… what do you do

[gamerman01]

But hey, you play a guy who goes by “Arthur Bomber Harris”, there’s a pretty good chance…… you know  :wink:

[gamerman01]

Gotta love the challenge!  
I’ve already spoken my piece about the bomber strategy, and then some, so I won’t bore or irritate you with it now.  I’ve only played against it, against a very good player, twice, and both games were decided by dice - we each took a game.

If it annoys you, just make a house rule.  Limit 2 or 3 bombers purchased per turn or something.  Perfectly reasonable to ask that and I doubt many will turn you down over that.

Don’t get me wrong - I still think buying that many bombers is sub-optimal, but I haven’t proven it, I will admit, as I explained above.  I for one just still don’t buy that it’s unbeatable or breaks the game.  However, I do think bombers are underpriced especially since the +2 damage was added.  We paid 15 for them back in the day and didn’t have airbases

[gamerman01]

America can wreak quite a bit of havoc herself with a big bomber fleet.  I understand it’s most powerful for Germany, but my point stands.

[Giallo]

JWW(allies) over Giallo

http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=36928.225

[Shin-Ji]

@MrRoboto:

It’s not just that.
If Germany pumps out 5 bombers each round (quite possible after round 5 or so), basically almost buying nothing else, what can you do? America needs to invest at least 60 IPC itself into carriers+fighters+destroyers to defend a possible landing somewhere. UK can just forget the idea of setting up a fleet in the med. Egypt and London are in constant threat, even if Italy or Germany only have 1 transport. I have lost London to 1 transport + 30 bombers before. Egypt of course, too.

The one thing that comes to mind that could help that, is a heavy KGF, investing in the atlantic with USA. But in my experience, that means doom too, since Japan is unstoppable then. .

I actually think that the Balanced Mod has put KGF back on the table.  With the USA getting all those bonuses, it really makes sense to have a strong Atlantic presence right from the start.  And as for how you deal with bombers as the Allies, the answer is simple.

You lose.

No, really!  The trick is to build those fleets, knowing the the German bomber stack will sink them.  Then build more.  Repeat as needed until you’ve got them.  It doesn’t take as long as you’d assume.  Germany makes a lot of money, but bombers are expensive.  With Balanced Mod, this is less painful for the Allies.

[gamerman01]

Every plane lost attacking Atlantic boats is a plane Russia or Africa or the middle east doesn’t have to worry about.  You have to make the Germans attack stuff sometimes, otherwise they will just project increasing power on all parts of the board, and eventually even be able to take London with 1 infantry!  :-)  :|  :wink:

[Major Major]

I think the Strategic bomber piece is flawed for several reasons in this game.
I think the best solution is that they only fire in the first round.  Drop them bombs and go home. 
I mean if AA only shoot round 1 Strategic bombers should only drop bombs in round 1.

my 2 cents.

My other 2 cents is that the game should go back to a die to an aircraft, not roll a bunch and defender chooses.
i.e. germany attacks a stack of russians:  2ftrs, 8 bombers vs 6inf and an 2AA.  the defender shoots at 6 bombers not generic hit the ftr/s the bombers slice you up.