G40 League House Rule project

[gamerman01]

So is there someone here who knows how to change turn order in Triple A?  I’m a little confused.

Man, would that be awesome.

[barney]

what is the turn order?

[barney]

Panther is correct. You need to change more then just the turn order. I remember doing it in alpha 3 so it shouldn’t be too hard. I’ll see what I can do.

[gamerman01]

Awesome.  Let me know

[barney]

Unfortunately my earlier confidence was misplaced. This is proving more difficult than the earlier versions.

What turn order are you after?

[barney]

ok got it figured out

go to player list    Line 1222

change turn order

change alliances  ( make sure to change alliances in sequence with turn order.  Example if germany and russia change place in turn order swap their places in alliances.)

go to bidding phase  Line 1323  adjust accordingly

game sequence is right after bid phase  adjust accordingly

At the beginning is the name World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, add something simple to the end to change the name. You will have to rename the xml as well before you put it back in the     
        Global games folder. Make sure to use the underscores and caps. This will show up in your map folder under the new name.

The objective panel will not show up unless you add the new name to the objectives properties.

If you want I’ll do the changes. I couldn’t find what turn order you were talking about though. If you have trouble let me know

:)P

[gamerman01]

Cell A20 on this sheet
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ujxn3r0e5sekcVPS8CbkH3KByB1iVrNJimiwA3e_BiI/edit#gid=7

There are multiple sheets/tabs to this spreadsheet.

[barney]

Here are some changes:

1  changed turn order
          Germany
          USSR
          Japan
          UK
          UK Pacific
          USA
          China
          Italy
          ANZAC
          France

2  burma rd is now worth 5

3 SBR’s only get one die roll

4 unit cost change

AA=4
            Ftr=11
            Bmb=13
            Crz=11
            BB=18
            Bases=12

All try and knock out some more of the easy ones. Do you have any preference on what changes you want next?

ww2global40_2nd_edition_Gamer1.xml

[barney]

Not sure why it won’t let me modify the earlier post.

Readjusted turn order:

Germany
USSR
Japan
UK
UK Pacific
ANZAC
Italy
USA
China

ww2global40_2nd_edition_Gamer1.xml

[barney]

Sorry to spam the thread. I can’t figure out why it won’t let me edit previous post.

More changes:

1 Add victory cities
      Malaya
      Java
      Manchuria

2 Increased pacific victory city count to 8

3  Ipc change
      Northern territory=0
      Western Austraila=0
      Southern Austraila=0
      New Zeland=1
      West India=1

4  Removed German NO Egypt presence

5  Changed Japan Outer Defense Perimeter NO
    Need control of
      Guam
      Wake
      Midway
      Caroline Island

ww2global40_2nd_edition_Gamer1.xml

[gamerman01]

@barney:

All try and knock out some more of the easy ones. Do you have any preference on what changes you want next?

Oh, this is great - but I’m not sure where exactly I need to save the .xml file to.  Once I can open the file as you have wonderfully updated it, I will be able to fine-tune changes better.  I have learned more about the game since last spring, too.

You spam the thread all you want.  We need you.

[barney]

cool :)

open triplea folder

open maps folder ( if you don’t see one there open your triplea 1804 folder. There will be one in there. Use the first maps folder if you can.)

open world war II global zip

open the games folder (you will find the xmls here)

put the new xml in the games folder ( I have named it Gamer1 and it will show up in your Choose maps area when you start up triplea. It will be with all the other globals)

Let me know if you have any trouble. Almost got the NO’s done.

:)P

[barney]

More changes:

1 Germany receives 5 ipcs for contol of UK

2 Russia receives 5 ipcs if at war with Germany and no axis ships in sz 125 and control of Archangel

3 Russia receives 5 ipcs if at war with Germany and no allied units in original Russian territories

4 Russia receives 3 ipcs for control of any axis or pro axis territories in mainland europe. They no longer receive ipcs for any other original axis or pro axis territories.

5 UK receives 5 ipcs if there are no axis subs in the atlantic.
  This includes: sz’s 126,125,124,123,122,121,120,119,118,117,116,112,111,110,109,108,107,106,105,104,103,102,101,91,90,89,88,87,86,85,84,83 and 82

6 UK no longer receives ipcs for original territories

7 UK receives 5 ipcs if they control 4 of the following:
    Norway
    Denmark
    Holland Belgium
    Normandy Bordeaux
    France
    Southern France
    Northern Italy
    West Germany

8 UK Pacific if at war with Japan receives 3 ipcs for control of Malaya and 3 ipcs for control of Kwangtung

9 UK Pacific if at war with Japan receives 5 ipcs if they control the following:
  New Zealand
  New Guinea
  New Britain
  Solomon Islands
  Queensland
  Northern Territory
  Victoria
  Western Australia
  South Australia
  New South Wales

Added a to the end of the xml for clarity

ww2global40_2nd_edition_Gamer1a.xml

[gamerman01]

Took my first glance.  Holy cow, this is exciting.

Shin Ji!  You there?  Next time you play the houseruled game you won’t have to do all the things you did last time, like skipping turns and whatever else.

1 question - again, I have only taken a quick glance for now - I don’t see an NO tab - I was going to check out your changes.  Thanks - more to come later

[barney]

Yea unfortunately the NO tab doesn’t show up unless you put the new name in the objectives properties. I have had mixed results doing this. However at the end of your turn it will tell you what objectives you have obtained. I’ll go ahead and add them to the game notes so you can look them up there.

I didn’t test this very extensively just the obvious scenarios so you’ll want to keep an eye out for unintended results. I took a quick look at convoys. Might be able to get a bastardized version. I can eliminate the convoy SZ’s you don’t want, but changing the max damage without effecting the territory ipc value will be tougher. I assume you just turn off the dice in game options. So you’d have to figure the convoy damage manually and edit if it takes too much.

I suppose the Flying Tigers is the only thing you really can’t edit with triplea? Although some would be messy. I’ll take a look at that and getting the mid factory going. Should be able to figure something out using kamakazies as a guide.

[gamerman01]

Freaking awesome.  I assume this is all enjoyable for you, so that’s good.

I like the convoy idea.  Some edits for that is not bad - definitely acceptable.  There were some to eliminate, I think, yes.  If they have to be done manually, I think that is acceptable.  It won’t be bad once we get used to playing it.

I hope you will be available when I start to play test it and want to make some more tweaks, or alternatively if you can tell me how you do some things - we can talk about this later.  I am pretty comfortable with programming and computer stuff, unlike most people.

[barney]

I should be around for a while yet. I never know when I’ll be going back to work.

Is most enjoyable. I think the more Global versions the better. This map can support many different scenarios. You get tired of one play another.

You know a lot more about computers then I do. Fortunately I have access to someone who is pretty knowledgeable. I’ll try and get a few more things done. Having a little trouble with the factory at the moment.

[barney]

@Gamerman01:

Thanks, I need to look through all these (scanned a few just now) and consider them when testing/playing the house ruled game (still months ahead)

I like the idea of no Japan/Russian war until Russia is at war in Europe, but am hesitant to add too many new rules
Do NOT like the idea of USA having a nearly untouchable +30, etc.
Will cherry pick these ideas (from YG, I believe.  Anyway.)

Actually I believe that’s Roger Cooper’s mod. He’s done several games over at triplea. He just finished a WWI game.

[barney]

Here’s the mid factory

cost=20
production=5
max damage=10
minor to medium=10
medium to major=12
placement: may only be placed in a originally owned territory with a ipc value of 3 or higher.
reverts to minor when captured

Unfortunately if increased factory tech is activated it will throw a error. I would recommend saving the game before you roll for tech. If you get factory tech you will have to use it manually. Radar tech works fine.

Added a b to xml for clarity.

There are some new units you will have to add to each countries folder in the units folder. It’s in with the xmls. I couldn’t figure out how to compress the units folder enough to attach so you’ll have to do it manually. I didn’t bother adding them to the neutrals or mongolians but you may want to give them to all countries for flexibility.

Looked at convoys again and you didn’t eliminate any zones so I’ll leave it alone for now.

units.zip
ww2global40_2nd_edition_Gamer1b.xml

[gamerman01]

That’s good progress
Don’t worry about tech - few people play with it anyway