@nikola1975 said in PTV L25 PlayOff: Surfer (Allies) vs Nikola1975 (Axis +9):
@surfer Yes :) Let’s see how you react.
Ok. Let’s try this. Scramble orders?
G40 League House Rule project
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This is how the China/US combined turn would work.
You buy units for both at the same time. You choose whether to do combat move and conduct combat with China or USA first, and do it all. Then you do the other power. Then you do non-combat move at the same time, place units at the same time, collect income at the same time.
Doing it this way, you can’t have USA air land on territory China just took, and vice versa.
Basically if we use Triple A, we simply announce our complete buy on the forum and then continue. Sinji axis or allies.
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I’d like Axis.
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I think I need some clarification on the setup, Gamerman.
In Queensland, do we remove one infantry, both infantry, or convert them to UK units?
In NZ, do we remove one or both fighters? Or are they converted to UK units as well?
As far as reducing the IPC values of territories, I was thinking we could (for now, at least) make them French. This effectively makes them worthless, at least until they are captured by the Axis powers. Which might be a good thing, as it would further encourage Japanese aggression against the Aussies. THe only problem with this is that I can’t reduce the value of a territory. So I was thinking that rather than reducing NZ and West India to 1 each, I could leave West India alone and make NZ a French territory.
And to clarify, The Flying Tigers tokens can be used to defend against Axis attacks in Non-Russian, Non-Mongolian mainland Asia? So, West India through Malaya and FIC, including all the possible Chinese territories as well?
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Actually, making them French or Dutch doesn’t work, since walking a UK unit there would make then UK TT again.
We are meant to make all the ANZAC TTs UK TT, right?
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Anzac is removed and all remaining Anzac units become UK as far as I understand the changes anyways.
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Oh yea, I get that part, Noz. At least I think I do. But I needed help on other stuff, so i figured I’d throw it in as well.
Since there’s no division between UK and UK Pacific anymore, that means India can become pretty nasty if it needs to be.
And another question, Gamerman - did you intend to change the starting money of each power?
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@Shin:
I think I need some clarification on the setup, Gamerman.
Sure, no problem!
In Queensland, do we remove one infantry, both infantry, or convert them to UK units?
I meant remove 1 infantry. I edited my document - thanks. Convert all ANZAC units to UK
In NZ, do we remove one or both fighters?� Or are they converted to UK units as well?
Same answer - Remove 1 fighter. All ANZAC units are now UK.
As far as reducing the IPC values of territories, I was thinking we could (for now, at least) make them French.� This effectively makes them worthless, at least until they are captured by the Axis powers.� Which might be a good thing, as it would further encourage Japanese aggression against the Aussies.� THe only problem with this is that I can’t reduce the value of a territory.� So I was thinking that rather than reducing NZ and West India to 1 each, I could leave West India alone and make NZ a French territory.
I think you should just adjust IPC’s after each time you collect income and not change any ownerships.
And to clarify, The Flying Tigers tokens can be used to defend against Axis attacks in Non-Russian, Non-Mongolian mainland Asia?� So, West India through Malaya and FIC, including all the possible Chinese territories as well?
No, actually I didn’t want to include Shan and FIC.
So it is all of China, Hong Kong, Burma, and India. In other words, all of China including Hong Kong, plus Burma road territories. I edited the document to make this clearer. “Air attacks” includes SBR on India. Flying tiger chits may be used against Japanese SBR’s on India (But not against German or Italian)
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@Shin:
Oh yea, I get that part, Noz. At least I think I do. But I needed help on other stuff, so i figured I’d throw it in as well.
Since there’s no division between UK and UK Pacific anymore, that means India can become pretty nasty if it needs to be.
And another question, Gamerman - did you intend to change the starting money of each power?
Good questions.
Actually, UK Europe and UK Pacific still have separate economies.
Starting money should be changed to reflect holdings at game start, yes.
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Yea, reducing income manually does seem the simpler way of doing things.
And the economies remain separate? Interesting.
Thanks!
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OK, here’s a file with the setup. Let me know if I missed anything.
UK Pacific has 27 PUs at start, but 5 of those need to be subtracted at the start of the round, due to the lowered TT values.
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I have an interesting question actually. How do you want us to test the VC conditions in Pacific?
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The map looks good. I don’t see any errors.
Do you guys understand how the convoys are supposed to work?
For example, Germany and Italy no longer take convoy damage from Z105, but UK/US could take damage from this zone.
For now, let’s do SEVEN cities in Pacific for the win (no new victory cities or anything).
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J1 will be a little tougher (with these changes), but China’s ability to fight back is diminished
Dang I wish I had time to playtest this with you! Have fun!
Please post link to your on-going game in this thread, thanks -
Here’s the link to the game.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33155.0
And yea, I get the idea of how the convoys work. South France cannot take convoy damage if it’s controlled by the Germans or the Italians (should we just say if controlled by the Axis? I’ve never seen Japan in control of that, but I suppose it’s possible - especially now that the win conditions in the Pacific are so stringent), but if the Americans take it, the Axis could convoy it for the full 3 IPCs worth.
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But Japan now also has the option of building a medium complex on Kiangsu or Manchuria! (Not Malaya or Hong Kong because must be originally controlled)
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You’re right on the convoys!
You guys might want to print out the NO and convoy pages for your reference while playing? Just an idea -
Oh, and one more thing. When the remaining French units become UK units, do they change the ownership of the terriroty they are currently in?
Say, the one in French West Africa, for example. Assuming France has fallen by that time, on the Uk turn it would start in a French owned TT, and it could move into French Central Africa, making FCA a UK TT. So, does FWA remain French?
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Good point about the medium complex.
I have the ruleset open in a different tab, and it’s linked in the game thread as well.
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@Shin:
Oh, and one more thing. When the remaining French units become UK units, do they change the ownership of the terriroty they are currently in?
No. Only the units change.
Say, the one in French West Africa, for example. Assuming France has fallen by that time, on the Uk turn it would start in a French owned TT, and it could move into French Central Africa, making FCA a UK TT. So, does FWA remain French?
All French territories remain French until taken over by the Axis. Then any ally can take the territory back and control it.
French units will always become UK after the first round of play regardless of whether Paris falls (after USA1)
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Oh right! Silly me - I get so used to TripleA doing my thinking for me…
I mean, I always leave Normandy untaken when I play Axis for just that reason!
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