Modern axis and allies

[tekkyy]

@cyan:

anyideas for euope naional advtages?

yeah
we are building the national advantages for AARHE
its not in the draft

its in this thread
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=6385.msg128498#msg128498

[cyan]

ok you can download the file again. i’ve linked this page http://www.harrisgamedesign.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=917 in case any one wants to see what was wriiten there. also if you have any ideas for counting the artillery for intialsetup please tell me.
http://www.speedyshare.com/737398585.html

[cyan]

europe is finished.
Europe:

1. Russian paranoia
   fear of a nuclear armageddon during the cold war European radar was designed to detect any air movement.  European owned antiaircraft guns in tan territories hit air units on a 2.
2. France assassination.
   Now that France has been taken over by the oppressed Muslim population you may pay 8 ipc and roll one dice in the begging of your turn. If you roll a one France now becomes under your control. If any attack on France has occurred already you may not do this.
3. Nato bases
   Turkey and Africa served a drop off point for Nato troops. It only costs 8 ipc to build a factory in South Africa, and Turkey.

[cyan]

okay addintial rules to the Out of the box rules are subs can blockade
for every Enemy SUB within 1 SZ of (ie. directly adjacent to) an IC owned by that respective country, subtract 2IPC from their collected income… If a SUB became submerged during this TURN’s Conduct Combat Phase, it does not do ANY economic damage.

when indochina and persia are attacked for the 1st time they recieve 3 free inf. if israel is attacked e. us recive 1 free inf and persia recives 2 free inf.

i’m not sure about this one but it adds some balence. any terroty europe or america takes must have 1 unit it at the end of each round. or the terroy is restored to its orginial owner. the same also applies to any terroty with an ic in it for all the nations.

[cyan]

okay i have finshed all the unit placements here it is. http://rapidshare.com/files/4033709/economy.xls

[cyan]

hello i took a really long brak from this. i storta played around with oil but decided agianst it.(after i did almost all the caulculations.  :-( ) but ohwell here are the victory cities. i’l post a revision of the setup  very soon. i decided an islamic alliance as an enemy was unlikely, so I divided it among russia and china. I have to double cheeck figs then everything should be done.  I also uptaded the IPc value of each nation  for the 2007 figures( barely a difference) VItory conditions can erither be 10 or 11 vc. capitals are in italics.

Allies : 7
US: 3
DC ( EUS)
Los angles (WUS)
Mecca ( saudia arabia)

Europe: 2
London ( UK)
Berlin ( Germany)

Japan: 2
Tokoyo ( japan)
Seoul ( south korea)

Axis: 7
China: 4 Beijing (manchuria)
Shanghia (Kwantung)
Urumqi (Sinkiang)
Jakarta (Boreno)

Russia: 3 Moscow ( Russia)
St. Petersburg (karelia)
Tehran (Persia)

[cyan]

Production:
Japan total: 28
china total: 30
USA total: 42
Russia total: 28
Europe total: 38

[cyan]

okay New and revised list. http://rapidshare.com/files/14191050/economy2.xls.html
edit: gave wrong link but right now

[cyan]

@cyan:

okay New and revised list. http://rapidshare.com/files/14191050/economy2.xls.html
edit: gave wrong link but right now

any questions or  suggestions to make this better?

[Imperious Leader]

Normally i would but i have too much on my plate as it is.

eventually ill have a look.

[cyan]

Destroyers
Destroyers also have the function to act as AA guns against Missile Strikes and Cruise Missiles Destroyers defend against these attacks at a 1 for each missile fired into a sea zone that contains destroyers.  Only one destroyer can defend in each sea zone against missile attacks.

Dog Fighting
Fighters can also be used to attack enemy fighters.  During the Combat Movement Phase, the attacker states which of their fighter(s) are going to dog fight against the enemy’s aircraft.  If all of the attacker’s fighters are not used the minimal number of fighter the attacker uses must equal or exceed the defender’s total aircraft that are in the defending territory.  This rule also applies to the defending aircraft and is reapplied between each round of combat.  If the defender or attacker wishes to send more aircraft than a necessary they may.  When it comes time for the Combat Phase, attacking fighters attack at a 2 or less and defending fighters defend at a 2 or less.  This battle continues until air superiority is reached or the attacker withdrawals from the air.  All dog fights are resolved during land combat.  The survivor of the dog fight can still partake in the ground attack.

Bombers
They defend on a 1 during all combat including dog fighting.  Bombers can not participate in a dog fight as the attacker.  During strategic bombing bombers may be escorted (see more at scramble against bombers).  Bombers can carry 1 infantry unit into battle or in non-combat move phase.  If so the bomber cannot attack during this phase.

Scramble (against missiles)
Fighters may defend against missiles that enter its territory on a 2 or less this includes combat and non combat movement.  This missile does not have to stop in that particular territory.  This combat only lasts 1 round.  Fighters cannot scramble if they participate in a dogfight.  They can not opt out of a dogfight either.

Scramble (against bombers)
Fighters may defend against bombers(s) at a 2 or less.  The attacker may escort the bomber(s) with fighters.  If the attacker chooses do this it becomes just like a dog fight but only lasts for 1 round and the defender is not restricted to how many fighters will scramble.  If a dog fight is occurring in the territory the bomber(s) stop at, they just “tag” along.  They leave after the first round (when they strategic bomb) of combat and do not count towards the dog fight count.

Close Air Support
Fighters now get a sneak attack at 3(4 for defenders)  or less like submarines as long as there are no enemy fighters in the territory. This only works in land combat.

Missile Strike
AA guns fire 1 missile at 3 spaces or less and can target a specific unit or IPCs.  AA guns in a territory defend as appropriate.  Missile hits at 3 or less.  Destroyers defend against missiles at a 1.

Nation specific:
Cruise Missiles (US and Russia) [Japan may buy this tech for 10 ipcs]  – Battleships can now fire 2 cruise missiles up to 3 spaces at a 4 or less.  If cruise missiles are used, the battleship cannot take part in combat.  A cruise missile can attack a specific unit or target IPC production.  AA guns in a territory defend as appropriate.  Destroyers defend at 1 for sea units.

Heavy Bombers (US and Russia) [china and Europe may but this tech for 15 ipcs] – Bombers now attack with two dice at 4 or less.

[cyan]

Those are the rule changes. if  you are familar with runeblades’s 1989 nato vs. warsaw version then you can see alot of simmilarity.

[cyan]

maybe you can use the dog fighting idea for AARHE.

[tekkyy]

Only one destroyer can defend in each sea zone against missile attacks.

See how its a bit weird.
If you forgo the one-AA-per-territory-can-fire rule and unlimited-fire-per-AA rule of OOB…it’ll make a world of difference.

maybe you can use the dog fighting idea for AARHE.

We do have a dogfighting rule in AARHE.
In earlier forms, not dissimilar to your rule.

[cyan]

@tekkyy:

Only one destroyer can defend in each sea zone against missile attacks.

See how its a bit weird.
If you forgo the one-AA-per-territory-can-fire rule and unlimited-fire-per-AA rule of OOB…it’ll make a world of difference.

i thought only one aa gun could fire agianst each plane ( so if you had 1 aa and 5 fighters then the aa would fire 5 times same for 2 aa asn 5 figters.)

[cyan]

i like your better tekkeyy. just a little teaking

Air units in Combat
Air unit’s fire in opening-fire fire.
While both sides have air units these air units fight with dog fighting values(2/2).
Air units’ hits must be first allocated on air units. the only exemption to this rule is that Bombers attack ground units at 3 or less but can still be hit by air units. when only one side has air units the units fight with normal combat value.

[cyan]

japan/sz60 17
south Korea 3
okinawa/sz58 1
phillpnes/sz49 2
wake island 0
Carolina islands 0
India/sz35 4

manchuria/sz61 3
kwangtung/59 4
china 2
skinang 1
indochina/sz36 1
Borneo 1
east Indies 0

Eastern US/sz10 20
Western US/sz55 16
Central US 10
Alaska/sz52 1
Hawaii/sz52 0
Midway island 0
Mexico 3
Brazil 3
Peru 1
Argentina/sz25 0
Israel/sz34 2
Saudi Arabia 2

Moscow 1
kareila/sz5 1
caucasus 1
archangel 0
novosribirsk 0
kazakh 1
evenki 0
yukut 0
soviet far east/sz62 0
buryatia 1
belrussia 0
ukraine 1
west russia 0
Persia 1
Egypt 1
East Africa 0
Equatorial Africa 1
Algeria 1
Libya 0
west Indies 0
Venezuela 1

UK/sz7 9
Spain 5
France/sz13 10
Germany 12
Italy/sz14 7
eastern europe 1
Balkans 1
eastern canada/sz1 2
western Canada 2
Norway 3
Sweden 0
west Africa 1
Congo 0
Rhodesia 0
Angola 0
Mozambique 0
south Africa 1
Madagascar 0
giblater 0
Australia 3
Solomon islands 0
new guinea 0
new Zealand 0
Afghanistan 0
turkey 1

Japan total 27
china total: 12
USA total: 58
Russia total: 11
Europe total: 58

[cyan]

the above post is a problem. I have been using gdp- ppp to detrimne the worht of each terroty. but i 've discovered gdp-nominal would be more accurate. this is the above post. but it has the allies at 133 vs. axis  23 ipc. it regular axis an dallies its. 96 vs. 70 this is a very big problem and i don’t know how to solve it. does anyone have any ideas to fix this?

[cyan]

http://rapidshare.com/files/28547423/economy2.xls.html here you can see it better.

[tekkyy]

I would make a hybrid system. I feel using solely nominal or ppp don’t give good results.

At this stage whats the scope of your project? House rule? Full variant? or some what in between?

I mean you could incorporate oil or energy and use nominal for that. PPP for building infantry.