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STAR TREK: DISCOVERY Launches September 24
By TrekCore Staff - June 19, 2017
Revealed today by Variety, the long-awaited launch of the Trek TV revival will finally occur on September 24, with the first episode airing on CBS’s television network, and a second episode immediately available to follow on the CBS All Access streaming service.
The series will launch Sunday, Sept. 24 at 8:30 p.m. / 7:30c on CBS, though that time is approximate due to NFL Football and “60 Minutes” also airing that night. The series premiere will also be available on-demand on CBS All Access and the second episode of the series will be available on the service that same night immediately following the broadcast premiere.
After premiere night, all new episodes will be available on-demand weekly on Sundays exclusively for CBS All Access subscribers in the U.S. The 15-episode season will be released in two parts. The first eight episodes will run from Sept. 24 through Nov. 5. The season will then resume in January 2018.
Anyone else watch the premier last night? Not fair to judge the series after only watching the pilot, but any reactions are welcome. I did not watch episode 2 since it was only on CBS All Access.
I give it a 4/10. That may be generous. I disliked much more than I liked. Some things were just annoying others were maddening.
Enterprise was unwatchable. I have tried, for nostaliga’s sake, to watch the last season over and over, I cannot proceed, Captain.
The captain was a milksop. His goofy behavior combined with punch em ups was incomprehensible and silly. As much as I wanted to like characters like Floxx, again, they were goofy and candycane like. The B tier crew were wooden and unengaging.
This is from someone who came to love DS9, have watched it beginning to end, 3-4 times. Would do it again. Its often silly, with 3-4 throwaway episodes per season…about baseball…losing a baby in time warp…its like the lowest end western or soap opera but it and Voyager are at least watchable, with a few engaging storylines to rely on.
I don’t buy “it wont appeal to everyone” that is a massive excuse and cop out. Of course it wont, but you still have to try. Diverging from key principles and tenets of the original idea, having incoherent characters, none of this had to happen. STNTG feels hungry. It feels experimental. No one liked the first 1-2 seasons because they have so many unusual plotlines involving god-like beings and time travel, etc. but they still feel hungry and in the spirit of TOS, Doctor Who, etc.
The approach since Voyager is so vanilla and standardized, written in committee, with an audience of insiders only.
The whole debacle with Star Trek Axanar shows the whole game–putting one’self into the movie is childish and its stuffed with cameos but all you have to do is watch it to see that even a very dedicated fan-based movie can be FAR better than anything made in the past 15 years. It feels true to the spirit–we want to see a dingy, dark *@#$@ Klingon War. Not a soap opera! Don’t you get it?
4/10 seems about right. My buddy hit the nail on the head with a Game of Thrones comparison to the Klingons; in addition to that it just felt like this series already lacks originality.
That said we already caved in and split a subscription to watch the second episode.
4/10 seems about right. My buddy hit the nail on the head with a Game of Thrones comparison to the Klingons; in addition to that it just felt like this series already lacks originality.
That said we already caved in and split a subscription to watch the second episode.
Haven’t watched GoT, but even I can see similarities in the cinematography and dark, moody set decoration. The Discovery bridge was awful in that regard.
Why these new movies and shows feel the need to re-invent the look of Trek’s most species, I have no idea. There is some flimsy rationale that Klingon aesthetics have evolved over time. Which is false, or at least misrepresentative. The original Klingon look from TOS was revised by the end of that series and settled on in the TOS movies. TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT retained that standardized look. Star Trek Into Darkness changed it, so the Discovery people see justification in changing it again. Stupid. The DSC Klingons look ridiculous and overdone. So much prosthetic and makeup that I doubt they can become expressive characters. At least not like they used to be.
I don’t see any of them being a new Gowron.
If you hate the design aesthetic of JJ Trek along with the film-making sensibility that came with it you’l hate this.
Aside from how it is bad Trek this thing is unwatchable. The Klingon ship is an eye sore. Lens Flares (no, really.) Shaky-cam. Spinning cam. Dutch angles and editing that leads to a rocking boat sensation. This thing is unwatchable before you get to it being bad Trek.
If you want Trek as it would be directed by Michael Bay ST:Discovery is for you.
I liked Michele Yeoh but I always like her.
Lens Flares (no, really.)
Way too many of these. Usually for no reason at all. There wasn’t even light present to make it happen, they just threw them in because that is apparently what Star Trek looks like now.
Lens Flares (no, really.)
Way too many of these. Usually for no reason at all. There wasn’t even light present to make it happen, they just threw them in because that is apparently what Star Trek looks like now.
The lighting choices were a mess in that first hour. It was very difficult to watch before you even get to the story.
just seen it until the…I dont know the correct English…title song? I saw this in German, which is almost always bad, so reserve my judgment for the original voices. It was too colloquial for me, in any case, but maybe thats the translation.
Interesting Klingon scene, but as always, who cares for those retarded warriors when the ever intriguing Romulans could have been had instead :)
I liked how they dispatched the walking dead. Daryl just kicks ass on that show and Megan will soon meet his fate.
@Imperious:
I liked how they dispatched the walking dead. Daryl just kicks ass on that show and Megan will soon meet his fate.
Yeah, Negan getting a sex change at the end of the season really threw me. Good plot twist.
OMG i must have missed that part. No wonder why the show never had him having sex with women! I thought it was a cleanliness issue. Whew!
@alexgreat:
just seen it until the…I dont know the correct English…title song? I saw this in German, which is almost always bad, so reserve my judgment for the original voices. It was too colloquial for me, in any case, but maybe thats the translation.
Interesting Klingon scene, but as always, who cares for those retarded warriors when the ever intriguing Romulans could have been had instead :)
Title Song is correct.
Are Trek voiceovers in German usually that bad? I have gotten the impression that Star Trek, maybe Next Generation in particular, is quite popular in Germany. Since German is relatively close to English, I would have thought that the dialogue-picture to match up decently well.
Are Trek voiceovers in German usually that bad?
See for yourself
Are Trek voiceovers in German usually that bad?
See for yourself
What’s wrong with that? Certainly isn’t as bad as watching Japanese movies in English.
What’s wrong with that? Certainly isn’t as bad as watching Japanese movies in English.
Scotty speaking German is just wrong! lol
That version is like Germany winning the war and its necessary consequence….Everybody now speaks German.
@Imperious:
That version is like Germany winning the war and its necessary consequence….Everybody now speaks German.
Nothing wrong with that.
I can sort of see where the writers are going with Michael’s dual identities as a parable for today’s society, but we’ve basically spent 50 years with a Vulcan confronting his humanity. Now we have a human who’s too Vulcan?
I can sort of see where the writers are going with Michael’s dual identities as a parable for today’s society, but we’ve basically spent 50 years with a Vulcan confronting his humanity. Now we have a human who’s too Vulcan?
In what way do you think it is a parable?
And I agree; the focus on Sarek and Spock (and Vulcans in general) as the primary vehicle for Trek’s exploration of humanity has become trite. Like you said it has been 50 years. Just like is happening with the new Star Wars films, I am getting concerned that Star Trek is shying away from telling any new stories. The actors have different names and faces and may be more diverse, but the characters and plots are all the same as they were 40 years ago.
TNG expanded admirably on the Spock-humanity theme (which is really the heart of Star Trek in my opinion) with Data. But even then Spock and Sarek were recurring characters in the show. To have them be so again here is leaning too much on a crutch. It may serve to connect a 2017 show to a 1967 show, but nobody that knows who Spock and Sarek are need that overt connection. And the people who don’t know who Sarek is wouldn’t notice the difference if he wasn’t there.
I just wonder where they are going with it. The human-Vulcan bit is a cop-out born of either playing it safe or trying to advertise overtly that ‘this is Star Trek’. I suppose this could be an attempt at the inverse of Spock; rather than a Vulcan (half human) who is constantly pushed to embrace emotion, we have a human (raised Vulcan) who is pushed to harness their emotion under logic. The pilot episode certainly made it obvious that Michael is something of a reactionary firebrand who does whatever she feels is right. I found her highly unlikable, particularly for being the main character. Seems odd that is what the writers are trying to foster, but if that was their intent it worked with me.
