ABH vs Innocentbystander G40

[innocentbystander]

with the game this time

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

I am traveling for thanksgiving and won’t do my turn for 8 days.  Sorry for the delay

[innocentbystander]

@Arthur:

I am traveling for thanksgiving and won’t do my turn for 8 days.  Sorry for the delay

No problem.  Have an outstanding vacation, and Happy Thanksgiving

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Hawaiian Islands to 54 Sea Zone
            2 carriers and 1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Midway to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Midway to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Midway to Hawaiian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Midway to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 3 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Guam to 26 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

Place Units - Americans
            3 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone
            2 bombers and 1 fighter placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan

Place Units - Chinese
            5 infantry placed in Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 7 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 13 PUs

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 5 artilleries; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 98 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Ethiopia to Egypt
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Combat - British
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 destroyer
                Italians defend with 1 cruiser
                British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 infantry moved from Rhodesia to Belgian Congo
            1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser moved from 76 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
                  British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  UK_Pacific take Java from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
            3 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone

Place Units - British
            1 armour and 2 fighters placed in Egypt
            1 artillery placed in Union of South Africa
            1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 31 PUs; end with 32 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            5 artilleries placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 25 PUs; end with 26 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 5 artilleries

[innocentbystander]

I hope you had a great thanksgiving!

[innocentbystander]

This is the richest I have ever seen Italy on turn 2.  Its all downhill from here.

[innocentbystander]

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 infantry and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry moved from Kenya to Ethiopia
                  Italians take Ethiopia from British
            1 armour moved from Albania to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 infantry moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 6 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            2 aaGuns moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                  Italians take Iraq from Neutral_Axis
            2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Libya

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            3 submarines placed in 95 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 80 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2
            Italians collect 21 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 21 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 2 PUs; end with 28 PUs

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
                  ANZAC take Celebes from Dutch
            1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 13 PUs; end with 13 PUs total

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 2

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
                  British take Trans-Jordan from Italians

Combat - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

Great holiday!

[innocentbystander]

@Arthur:

Great holiday!Â

I’ve never gotten Iraq this quickly.  I have absolutely no idea if I should make a stand and try to defend it or to just let the British over-run it.  I can’t figure out which option would be to my advantage.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

There is no easy way to reinforce it unless you can control Egypt.  Landing planes there will get quite expensive, while UK can quickly get ground troops there from both India and Egypt.

[innocentbystander]

@Arthur:

There is no easy way to reinforce it unless you can control Egypt.  Landing planes there will get quite expensive, while UK can quickly get ground troops there from both India and Egypt.

I did the math.  My Japanese zeros are just barely out of range.  I can land (basically) my entire German Luftwaffe there.  You can hit it with (what?) 4 inf, 5 fighters, 1 tactical bomber, 2 tanks, 1 mechanized and a coastal shot.  I could defend with 5 inf, 3 fighters, and 2 tactical bombers.  Its dicey.  Very expensive for both of us.  But I think you are like an 80% favorite even if I land strat bombers there just get more pieces in the Middle East.

If I lose 3 fighters, 2 tach bombers, and 2 strat bombers, that might be my game.  I may have to let it go. This sucks, you planned too well.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

I have never had success getting control of North Africa or Middle East in the early game.  There gets to be more options by round 5  or 6 when the Axis has more powerful air forces.    Right now, I would gladly trade British forces for German planes since that relieves so much pressure off of Russia.

[innocentbystander]

@Arthur:

I have never had success getting control of North Africa or Middle East in the early game.  There gets to be more options by round 5  or 6 when the Axis has more powerful air forces.    Right now, I would gladly trade British forces for German planes since that relieves so much pressure off of Russia.

The thing is I am not sure I even need the Luftwaffe vs the Soviets.  I think with just land units, I have Russia crushed in this game (what with what Japan has done.)

The problem for me is that there is absolutely NOTHING for your spitfires to do other than challenge me in Iraq!  You don’t even need them (not really.)  Its like, you could lose all 5 and its not even a big deal.  You are correct, it is a much bigger deal for Germany at this point.

[innocentbystander]

Game History

Round: 3

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 7 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
            9 armour moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 armour moved from Poland to Baltic States
            11 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            5 artilleries moved from Poland to Baltic States
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Baltic States
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Baltic States
            3 armour moved from Bessarabia to Baltic States
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Bessarabia
            2 infantry moved from Yugoslavia to Romania
            1 armour moved from France to Germany
            8 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Poland
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Karelia
                Germans attack with 8 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Karelia from Russians with 8 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Ukraine from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                retreated to Western Ukraine
                Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Baltic States
                Germans attack with 13 armour, 5 artilleries, 11 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 2 infantry
                Germans win, taking Baltic States from Russians with 13 armour, 5 artilleries, 10 infantry and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 bomber moved from Western Ukraine to Poland
            1 bomber moved from Ukraine to Poland
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            1 aaGun moved from Poland to Baltic States
            2 aaGuns moved from Germany to Poland
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 7 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Western Germany
            1 infantry placed in France

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 43 PUs; end with 43 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 48 PUs

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland
            1 fighter moved from Novgorod to Eastern Poland

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 3 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 fighters moved from Eastern Poland to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            4 aaGuns, 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 8 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Ukraine to Russia
            1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Rostov
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia
            2 aaGuns and 22 infantry moved from Ulaanbaatar to Dzavhan
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries, 1 fighter and 7 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
            Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

[innocentbystander]

Big surprise (total war.)