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Uk R1 Egyptian counterattack

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If you attack Egypt on UK1 with 3 Inf(2 from India,1 from T-J) and 1 Fig(Indian Carrier) do you still attack the Japanese Trn in Sz 59? If so with what?
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@AxisOfEvil:

So whens the poll? I guess it should be phrased like this, if you were playing a 1v1 game, and had the allies, would you choose to start the game with 1 less russian fighter, or 1 less UK bomber.

My vote, ditch the bomber

Poll is up already.

Question is, what is more valuable in the first eight rounds of the game. A single Russian fighter or a single British bomber (and I chose a piece for Germany, Japan and America too.)

The caveat is you have to take into consideration not only what the piece can do, but also replacement cost, opportunity cost for losing it, function of the piece, what your allies can do to minimize the loss of the piece, etc.

It’s not as simple as 1 nation vs 1 nation.
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They’re all like that. This is just a typo that was corrected in the FAQ.
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UK Fighter to attack Japan's Trn (59)

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Honestly, I like unification of the British Fleet in SZ 30 with 1 Infantry from India. This makes it financially worse for Japan to attack than for England to be wiped out, strategically worse for Japan to attack (since they’ll lose their air force and have to leave Pearl unattacked maybe even not take China’s fighter out) than for England to be wiped out (all those ships are generally dead by UK 2 anyway, so what have you lost?) BUT

it really tempts Japan to try! Furthermore, form here, you can hit E. Indies with 4 Infantry, Fighter if Japan leaves you alone, or you can hit Egypt or you can just dump the infantry in S. Africa to bolster the defenses there.

Furthermore, if you build an IC in S. Africa (which negates the risk of losing Africa and thus your paycheck and allows you to stay in the upper twenties, lower 30s) you can be a relatively annoying pain in the butt. (Once Africa is secure, you can always dump a submarine or two in S. Africa making SZ 34 a threatened zone if you want too. Or at least pose the risk of doing so if you don’t want too.)

That said:

if I had to attack the japanese iwth England, I’d go Destroyer/Carrier to SZ 59; Fighter, Submarine to SZ 45 and land the fighter in SZ 52. I’ve seen quite a number of Japanese attacks on SZ 52 go south because of that extra fighter.
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I agree, the game is already favoring the Allies. A great bid for the Germans then seems fair to me.
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@Bunnies:

@Cmdr:

Protecting the S. African complex is a synch, really.

The problem is defending South Africa AND Moscow.

Easier to do then not having units producing in S. Africa.

1) Instead of driving units to Algeria to reclaim Africa, you can start off the bat dumping units into Arkhangelsk on UK 1. That means at least 3 rounds more unit drops in Russia then otherwise.

2) With America going through Africa, America has already saved 40 IPC on Transports AND saved on warships. (2 Destroyers, Battleship, 5 Transports is a pretty good deterant in and of itself, against the Luftwaffe. The Kriegsmarine should be made short order of with the US Air Corps (3 Fighters, Bomber + I like to have two more bombers out of the saved 40 IPC, netting me 10 IPC.))

3) 2 Transports, Carrier, Destroyer, Submarine in SZ 28 (British) + 2 Infantry/Artillery/Armor in S. Africa per round is plenty to stop Germany from even getting the land in the first place, saving cash for England. And once you get 24-30 IPC in equipment in place down in Africa (I like Egypt, close enough to run south if Japan comes close, far enough to run to Caucasus in a hurry if needed) for England and Africa’s yours forever. (Don’t forget, America’s landing 10 Ground Units a round into North Africa as well, it’s not JUST the 24-30 IPC worth of British units there.)
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@Caleb3285:

A second German sub in the Atlantic does pose a problem to the Allied fleet, but I would rather let that German sub do its business against the US and UK, and keep the Russian fighter to trade territories with Germany, than to attack the German sub and lose a Russian fighter to the German counterattack.

sorry to interrupt this thread with a noob question, but I thought subs could only attack other sea vessels, are you saying that it gets a counterattack against an attacking fighter?

That was “counterattack”. It’s probably in reference to USSR using its fighters against German navy on USSR1 before Germany can go, then having to land one of those fighters in Karelia. Germany can crush Karelia on its first turn regardless of what the Allies do. So the USSR doesn’t lose the fighter on the USSR turn; USSR loses the fighter on the German turn when the Germans take the terrritory that the USSR fighter landed in.
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Granted. But at least it isn’t BMB, FIG, 2 SS vs SS, Trn, BB. :)
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I still think the cost is too high for Russia. You loose your fighters, at least 1, Germany should have bid extra into Egypt so they have plenty to take and close the canal, they have neough to sink the BB in Gibraltar and can still make serious threats on Russian land, especially with the loss of 6-8 units for Russia’s defense.

Yea, the Med fleet is destroyed, probably. But that only nets England about 6 IPCs, maybe 7 and cost Russia 24-44 IPCs to do.

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