Rmorel (axis) v Cow (allies 22)

[Cow]

Still disappointed egypt worked out for ya and cruiser miss too. Going to be a rough game.

[rmorel]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 destroyer, 1 factory and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Buryatia S.S.R.
                  Japanese take Buryatia S.S.R. from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Anhwei
            4 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwei
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Szechwan
            1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Szechwan
            1 bomber moved from Japan to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Manchuria to Szechwan
            2 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 60 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 60 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 60 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 submarine moved from 44 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 50 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 50 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 50 Sea Zone to 53 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 53 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 60 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 60 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to French Indo-China Thailand

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 36 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in 53 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Japanese win with 1 carrier remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Americans: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
            Battle in French Indo-China Thailand
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                British defend with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking French Indo-China Thailand from British with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for British: 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Anhwei
                Japanese attack with 5 infantry
                Americans defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Anhwei from Americans with 5 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in 61 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer
                British defend with 1 carrier and 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                1 battleship owned by the Japanese retreated to 60 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Americans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from French Indo-China Thailand to 36 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 60 Sea Zone
            1 factory placed in Manchuria

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 armour, 3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from West Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Ukraine S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Buryatia S.S.R.
            1 submarine moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Buryatia S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Buryatia S.S.R. from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
            Battle in 5 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                Russians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Germans with 2 artilleries remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Karelia S.S.R.
                Russians attack with 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry
                Germans defend with 5 armour, 1 factory and 7 infantry
                1 armour owned by the Russians retreated to West Russia
                Germans win with 4 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 7 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour, 3 artilleries and 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Evenki National Okrug to Archangel
            1 aaGun moved from West Russia to Caucasus
            2 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Caucasus
            5 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total

[rmorel]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 4 armour, 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from France to 3 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from France to Norway
            1 infantry moved from Belorussia to West Russia
            1 fighter moved from Baltic States to West Russia
            3 armour moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Poland to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria Romania to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Libya to Caucasus
            1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 16 Sea Zone to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 artillery moved from 16 Sea Zone to Ukraine S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Germany to Ukraine S.S.R.
            1 battleship moved from 17 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
                  Germans take Trans-Jordan from British
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Egypt
            1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Norway
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway
            1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 fighter moved from Germany to Archangel
            1 fighter moved from Germany to West Russia
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Anglo-Egyptian Sudan
                  Germans take Anglo-Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 11 Sea Zone to 13 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Ukraine S.S.R.

Combat - Germans
            Strategic bombing raid in Caucasus
                Bombing raid in Caucasus rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: factory
                Bombing raid in Caucasus causes 6 damage total.
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 armour and 1 fighter
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Archangel from Russians with 1 armour and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in West Russia
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                Germans win, taking West Russia from Russians with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Battle in Persia
                Germans attack with 1 armour
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Persia from British with 1 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ukraine S.S.R.
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Russians defend with 2 artilleries
                Germans win, taking Ukraine S.S.R. from Russians with 6 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 artilleries
            Battle in Norway
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour
                Germans win, taking Norway from British with 1 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 armour
            Battle in 3 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 transport
                Germans win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from 3 Sea Zone to Finland
            2 fighters moved from Norway to Finland
            1 fighter moved from Archangel to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 fighters moved from West Russia to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 aaGun moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Baltic States
            2 infantry moved from Germany to Italy
            1 aaGun moved from Germany to Italy
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            2 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            2 armour and 5 infantry placed in Germany
            1 artillery placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 48 PUs; end with 48 PUs total

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            4 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 infantry moved from Burma to French Indo-China Thailand
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from India to Persia

Combat - British
            Battle in French Indo-China Thailand
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 infantry
            Battle in Norway
                British attack with 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 armour and 1 infantry
                British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
            Battle in Persia
                British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                British win, taking Persia from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from French Indo-China Thailand to India
            2 fighters moved from Norway to 7 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Norway to United Kingdom

Place Units - British
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 7 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in India
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 41 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 22 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 28 PUs; end with 30 PUs total

[Cow]

I am forced to do desperate attacks already, lol. Egypt going awry was a real killer. I wish I had one of those lucky dd hit two times and kills the bship forcing the transport retreat… bs scenarios lol… or just mutual destruction would be nice. Karelia too :. Snowball from west russia losing 2 inf too many.

Oh well, at least things are starting to work out here n there with semi desperate attacks. Got to use air to hit inf and hope you miss to crawl back into this, otherwise I pretty much lose. lol.

[Cow]

I like some of the sea zone changes in this map, particularly the uk to russia shuffle… then other sea zone changes just suck like usa -> uk. Naval is weird for a 1942 game, the allies are super weak in ships. They should have just made it a 1941 map with germany going first like in aa50. The allies as a whole is pretty boring. In revised I would be shipping men already, more action from the allies.

Maybe uk is supposed to just buy infantry on india and bombers from uk while usa goes pacific… problem is east indies is now 5 seazones away instead of 4… which really stinks for a pacific campaign… maybe make kwangtung + kiangsu 1 and solomon islands + caroline islands 1… then things feel a bit more progressive and tempting to do a pacific.

Larry Harris needs help making a 1942. Then again if egypt defended I would be ok, probably pass on karelia, still losing but at least not super hard.  It is just frustrating because 2 inf extra lost in west russia is not that uncommon, same with egypt falling. Larry Harris just needs some public testing before releasing something.

[Cow]

Hindsight, 2 inf egypt rest bid to russia, pacific usa, bomber uk and inf india. Just gogogo.

If you have to take the allies that is what I recommend.

[rmorel]

yeah Egypt was kind of lucky going my way, I think most times it doesn’t work on turn 1.  but youre doing several other things different as well so I’m not sure its that one thing.

[rmorel]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour, 2 artilleries and 1 bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwei to Sinkiang
                  Japanese take Sinkiang from Americans
            1 infantry moved from Anhwei to Szechwan
                  Japanese take Szechwan from Americans
            2 infantry moved from Anhwei to Kwangtung
            1 infantry moved from Anhwei to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 60 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 60 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 60 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from British
            1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Burma
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 48 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Philippine Islands to 48 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Philippine Islands to 48 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 48 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Burma
            1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Burma
            1 battleship moved from 60 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 60 Sea Zone to 61 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
            1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangtung

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 61 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win with 1 battleship and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser
            Battle in Kwangtung
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Kwangtung from Americans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters moved from Kwangtung to 36 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            2 armour and 1 artillery placed in Manchuria
            1 artillery and 1 bomber placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 34 PUs; end with 34 PUs total
            1 unit repaired.

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair damage of 6x factory; Remaining resources: 20 PUs;
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Archangel
            2 infantry moved from Russia to West Russia
            2 fighters moved from Caucasus to West Russia
            1 fighter moved from West Russia to Archangel
            4 infantry moved from Buryatia S.S.R. to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 submarine moved from 5 Sea Zone to 8 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Battle in West Russia
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking West Russia from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Archangel
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 armour
                Russians win, taking Archangel from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 armour

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Archangel to Caucasus
            1 fighter moved from West Russia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Caucasus

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Caucasus
            2 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 24 PUs; end with 24 PUs total

[rmorel]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II v5 1942 Second Edition, version: 1.9

Game History

Round: 3

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 armour, 1 bomber and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            6 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine S.S.R. to Caucasus
            1 transport moved from 16 Sea Zone to 15 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Italy to 15 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 15 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 16 Sea Zone to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from 16 Sea Zone to Caucasus
            1 bomber moved from Germany to Caucasus
            3 fighters moved from Karelia S.S.R. to Caucasus
            3 fighters moved from Finland to Caucasus
            3 armour and 3 infantry moved from Karelia S.S.R. to West Russia
            2 infantry moved from Baltic States to Karelia S.S.R.
            2 armour moved from Germany to Karelia S.S.R.

Combat - Germans
            Battle in West Russia
                Germans attack with 3 armour and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking West Russia from Russians with 3 armour and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Caucasus
                Germans attack with 6 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 6 fighters and 3 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 bomber; Russians defend with 2 aaGuns, 4 artilleries, 1 factory, 2 fighters and 9 infantry
                Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 fighters and 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns, 4 artilleries, 2 fighters and 9 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            2 fighters moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Caucasus to Karelia S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from Germany to France
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 infantry moved from Germany to France

Place Units - Germans
            2 armour placed in Karelia S.S.R.
            1 bomber and 5 infantry placed in Germany
            3 infantry placed in Italy

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs total

[Cow]

That is game. Losing 2 inf in west russia on top of egypt is enough to tilt the game too much for an already too strong axis. Cannot do europe anymore in this map as allies, they always lose. Got to just bomber uk, inf india, get usa in the pacific, turtle russia as long as possible. Allies start with hardly any ships and the seazones really suck for the atlantic, everything points to a pacific the way larry harris keeps wanting people to play. I only like to do kjf 1/5 games. Such a disappointing map, I realized this when I was axis that the allies just get crushed super easy.

I took a risk with only 1 inf egypt and the FIC thing, but that is because Japan gets india super fast otherwise.

[Cow]

If it weren’t for copyright laws I would totally print my own 1942 map, so much improvement can be done to keep the map fun. When I play the axis it is pretty sad too, it is like, okay my turn, nothing threatens me so I just crush you, your turn. I can see why this is the least played map, classic sees more play and that map has an infantry slug fest.

[rmorel]

Are you conceding then?

I’m not sure I agree with your first statement.  Allies played right can be killer.  That said, Ive never seen Allies win with KGF.  Unfortunately youre doing both KGF and KJP first, and that will not work.  gotta stick with one.

[Cow]

If you lost egypt I would have punished that attempt hard :)

[Cow]

That is a game winning or losing battle right there.  I could cruiser the japan trans dd, ship the carrier 2x fig to the bship or add bomber and use fig for FIC. Plus the income, every tiny bit so important for uk.

[Cow]

I did do KGF, The only KJF I did was a FIC attack. In revised FIC is standard if you dont have an egypt attack to do. The allies dont get to drop units as quickly into europe as revised or aa50.

[Cow]

When the allies get nerfed about 100 ipc and seazone changes… you need luck for the allies and that is what I was hoping for.