G40L2015 Arthur Bomber Harris(Allies+20) vs MakeMaps (Axis) Game 1

[MakeMaps]

Scramble 1 fighter from India?

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

no

[MakeMaps]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour and 10 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            6 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 artillery moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
                  Japanese take Tsinghai from Chinese
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
            2 infantry moved from Kansu to Tsinghai
            1 artillery moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            5 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Northern Territory to 55 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 55 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 55 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 submarines moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 carriers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 bombers, 2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Northern Territory to New South Wales
            3 fighters moved from 54 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            3 tactical_bombers moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 battleship moved from 55 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            2 bombers moved from French Indo China to India

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer
                British defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in New South Wales
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 5 fighters, 2 infantry and 7 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Japanese captures 16PUs while taking ANZAC capital
                Japanese win, taking New South Wales from ANZAC with 2 bombers, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 27
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for ANZAC: 2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
            Air Battle in India
                Japanese attacks with 2 units heading to India
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in India
                1 bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in India rolls: 4 and causes: 4 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in India causes 4 damage total.
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 bomber moved from India to French Indo China
            4 fighters moved from New South Wales to Northern Territory
            2 bombers moved from New South Wales to Northern Territory
            6 tactical_bombers moved from New South Wales to Northern Territory

Place Units - Japanese
            10 infantry placed in Japan
            2 armour placed in French Indo China
            Japanese undo move 1.
            9 infantry placed in Japan
            1 infantry placed in French Indo China

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 8
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2,1,5,4,2,5,1,4,1,4,1,4,5,2,5,4,6,3,2
            Japanese collect 22 PUs (8 lost to blockades); end with 40 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 45 PUs

[MakeMaps]

Australia has fallen!

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

Ooops meant to bomb Japan instead of attack.  Here is your AA shot and the damage:
Rolling 2d6:
(3, 5)

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor, 2 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Soviet Far East to 4 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 4 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
                  Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Midway to Japan
            4 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Amur
                Americans attack with 1 armour, 5 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
                Americans win, taking Amur from Japanese with 1 armour, 5 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 11
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
            Battle in Japan
                Americans attack with 1 bomber
                Japanese defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 14 infantry
                Japanese win with 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 14 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 aaGun

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Japan: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Korea: 1 bomber
            EDIT: Changing unit bombing damage for these Japanese owned units to: factory_major = 7
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            3 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry, 5 submarines and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 4 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 mech_infantry moved from 4 Sea Zone to Soviet Far East
            1 fighter moved from Guam to Wake Island
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Amur to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 factory_minor placed in Korea
            1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 57 PUs; end with 60 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 85 PUs

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 1 artillery and 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kiangsu
                  Chinese take Kiangsu from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Shantung
                  Chinese take Shantung from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
                  Chinese take Chahar from Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            8 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
                  Chinese take Shensi from Japanese
            6 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Hunan

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 artillery moved from Kiangsi to Hunan

Place Units - Chinese
            1 artillery and 4 infantry placed in Kweichow

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 22 PUs

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 infantry and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 118 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Norway to 118 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 118 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 118 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 fighter moved from India to Iraq
            1 armour moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
            3 infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 81 Sea Zone to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 mech_infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to 41 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to 41 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in Morocco
                British attack with 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians defend with 1 armour
                British win, taking Gibraltar from Italians, taking Morocco from Italians with 2 fighters and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
            Battle in 118 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                British win with 1 bomber and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                British attack with 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 armour
                British win, taking Anglo Egyptian Sudan from Italians with 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Italians: 1 transport
            Battle in Iraq
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                British win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                British attack with 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to India
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 9 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Shan State to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
            1 mech_infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to 81 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 118 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to United Kingdom
            2 fighters moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 39 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Norway

Place Units - British
            1 carrier placed in 109 Sea Zone
            1 transport placed in 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 37 PUs; end with 41 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 22 PUs; end with 22 PUs total
            Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 27 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 armour, 1 fighter and 3 mech_infantrys

[MakeMaps]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
                  Italians take Trans-Jordan from British
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                1 artillery owned by the Italians and 1 infantry owned by the Italians retreated to Bulgaria
                Neutral_Allies win with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians

Place Units - Italians
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Southern France
            3 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            Italians undo move 2.
            2 infantry placed in Northern Italy
            1 infantry placed in Egypt
            Italians undo move 3.
            Italians undo move 2.
            3 infantry placed in Egypt
            1 submarine placed in 95 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 18 PUs total
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 23 PUs

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Equatorial Africa to Anglo Egyptian Sudan

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[MakeMaps]

…that was quick. I literally had just posted my savemap…

[MakeMaps]

Oh, nvm. I was thinking of a different AA game. Hehe.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

It was quick since you took my capitols!

[MakeMaps]

You mean Australia’s capital? I’ve always wanted to try out an early invasion of Australia to neutralize it out of the war and gain an early capital. It kinda sucked, because with gaining the capital I suffered at the expense of losing ground in Asia, having also focused on sending all my forces in China straight for Moscow to help out Germany.

[MakeMaps]

Hey, I accidentally bypassed the option to scramble planes for my bombing raid on Moscow. I was trying to save the map and clicked “select” to try to get out of the window so I could try to save the map, and instead it thought I selected “none”.

So, just wondering if you want to scramble any planes to intercept my bombing raid on Moscow.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

It would have helped me decide if you post how many bombers are heading to Moscow.  If there are 2 or fewer, then scramble.  If not, no scramble.

[MakeMaps]

TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans repair damage of 6x factory_minor; Remaining resources: 45 PUs;
            Germans buy 1 bomber, 1 factory_upgrade and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to 115 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Norway
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Russia
            2 bombers moved from Romania to Russia
            1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Bessarabia to Rostov
                  Germans take Rostov from Russians
            1 artillery moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            5 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Bryansk
            1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Archangel
            1 artillery moved from Belarus to Archangel
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Bryansk
            9 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Rostov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Romania to Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Archangel
            3 bombers moved from Novgorod to Russia

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Archangel
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 armour
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                Russians defend with 1 submarine
                Germans win with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
            Battle in Norway
                Germans attack with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Norway from British with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Air Battle in Russia
                Germans attacks with 7 units heading to Russia
                Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in Russia
                1 tactical_bomber killed by AA
                Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 5,8,1 and causes: 6 damage to unit: airfield
                Bombing raid in Russia rolls: 5,5,3 and causes: 13 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in Russia causes 19 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: airfield = 6, factory_major = 13
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            4 bombers moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Ukraine
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Archangel to Novgorod
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Ukraine

Place Units - Germans
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            1 bomber placed in Ukraine
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Bessarabia: 3 aaGuns
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Ukraine: 3 aaGuns
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Units in Romania being upgraded or consumed: 1 factory_minor
            1 factory_upgrade placed in Romania

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 30 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Timguska to Kansu
                  Russians take Kansu from Japanese

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Bryansk
                Russians attack with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
                retreated to Bryansk
                Germans win with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            2 aaGuns and 19 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Samara
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Buyant-Uhaa
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Buyant-Uhaa
            1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
            1 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 29 PUs; end with 59 PUs total

[MakeMaps]

I’m going to need some extra time to ponder on this one.

[Arthur Bomber Harris]

No problem, take your time and get things right.  Japan is in big trouble and you need to find a way to regroup.