Global 1940 Wittman and Private Panic vs Credulous and Elrood

[Elrood]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Northern Territory: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Burma: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan
            6 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 6 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Szechwan

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 13 PUs

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[Elrood]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo

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[Elrood]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 factory_minor and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 111 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 111 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            3 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from India to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo

Combat - British
            Battle in 111 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser and 2 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 battleship
                British win with 1 cruiser and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 cruiser and 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British win with 1 cruiser remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for British: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                British win, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 cruiser and 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
            Battle in Borneo
                British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Borneo from Japanese with 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                British attack with 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in French Indo China
                British attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to Burma
            3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                  British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 battleship moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 111 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Szechwan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Burma
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba
            1 armour moved from Quebec to Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba

Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Egypt
            5 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 106 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 109 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,5,2,2
            British collect 22 PUs (6 lost to blockades); end with 23 PUs total
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 26 PUs
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 29 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1
            UK_Pacific collect 13 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 13 PUs total
            Trigger UK Pacific 4 No Enemy Submarines: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Some Units in India change ownership: 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

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[Elrood]

Here… is that enough spirit of adventure for you?!  :evil:

:lol:

[Elrood]

Ans also… Cred… you need bloody Carriers! These will win us the War…

Not a bunch of show planes!  :roll:

[Elrood]

tipp: If the US would have landed in Marokko… it would have meant:

• French unit for Allies (now it will get converted to Axis Neutral in French turn)
• 6 IPCs more for US (1 for Marocco and 5 for the US objective)

Just saying…  8-)

[Credulous]

@Elrood:

tipp: If the US would have landed in Marokko… it would have meant:

• French unit for Allies (now it will get converted to Axis Neutral in French turn)
• 6 IPCs more for US (1 for Marocco and 5 for the US objective)

Just saying…  8-)

I considered but decided better to ensure Gibraltar looked like an untempting target (based on the pain of trying to capture it in the last game - Adam is still going through counselling). That included factoring the additional French unit.

And there will of course be carriers. Lots of them.

[Elrood]

@Credulous:

And there will of course be carriers. Lots of them.

Now you are talking!  :-D

[Private-Panic]

I am sorry - am I on the wrong page - is this your private lovers page or are Leo and I also allowed to post here?  :?

You certainly seem to have frightened him off this morning!  :roll:

[Witt]

It is Maddy’s 7th birthday. Had a house full of people, now just 8. Lunch and work. Hope yo do Italy, before 5, but might be considered grounds for divorce!

[Elrood]

War cannot be won without sacrifices!  :evil:

[Witt]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by British to Syria: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by British from Egypt: 1 mech_infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to British Somaliland
                  Italians take British Somaliland from British
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                  Italians take Anglo Egyptian Sudan from British
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 artillery moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Albania to Bulgaria
            1 armour moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Italians win, taking 97 Sea Zone from British with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 24
                Casualties for British: 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour and 1 artillery remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 2 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 cruiser
                Italians win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for British: 1 cruiser

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 artillery moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 aaGun moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 submarine placed in 97 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4
            Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

British Somaliland : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kenya : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 factory_major, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Ethiopia : 1 infantry
    96 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Greece : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    97 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 39 / 68
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 33 / 41
    Americans : 52 / 80
    Chinese : 10 / 13
    British : 26 / 29
    UK_Pacific : 14 / 16
    Italians : 16 / 16
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 11 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 4 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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[Private-Panic]

Are you still married Leo?

I hope that Maddy had a wonderful day and there were no hissy-fits from any of the little terrors?

[Witt]

Maddy has been so good today. Has been a pleasure spending the day with her.
She is completing the Friends Amusement Park Lego set.
I am tired; I think because I have a rotten cold.

Italy had a good turn . I do have Seb’s blasted Battkeship off Gib though . Silly man. Why bring it in my Sea!

[Credulous]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 transport; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 45 Sea Zone to Dutch New Guinea
                  ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 aaGun moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 13 PUs total
            Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 16 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 19 PUs
            Objective ANZAC 3 Pacific Supply Lines: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 22 PUs

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[Credulous]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - French
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Algeria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 cruiser placed in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Tunisia
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in Morocco
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 destroyer placed in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 infantry placed in French West Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place: Neutral_Axis has 1 artillery placed in Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Algeria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Southern France
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Algeria 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Algeria
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Indo China 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Madagascar 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Madagascar
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Cruiser Remove: has removed 1 cruiser owned by French in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Tunisia
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Tunisia 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Tunisia
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in Morocco
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Guiana 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Guiana
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French Central Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French Central Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Destroyer Remove: has removed 1 destroyer owned by French in 93 Sea Zone
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3 Infantry Remove: has removed 1 infantry owned by French in French West Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France French West Africa 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory French West Africa
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Morocco 3: Neutral_Axis captures territory Morocco
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Place activates a trigger called: Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove
            Trigger Axis Conquer All France Southern France 3 Artillery Remove: has removed 1 artillery owned by French in Southern France

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Gibraltar
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

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[Witt]

I really cannot see the merits to a J1 DOW. Looks like arse, to me.

[Private-Panic]

Perhaps. The next couple of turns will tell us for sure. Here are some current thoughts for debate though:

Pros

• minimise UK Pacific income sooner
• take out UK BB
• take out US DD, sub and (if Philippines - where I had 81% odds with just the one TT - successful) Fig
• J loses 10 ipc income, but gains conquest income sooner - or at least that is the plan!

Cons

• US enters war against G & It, so they need to be happy
• US gains significant NO income earlier
• Not doing the alternative of perhaps using J1, 2 & poss 3 to go at R and accept the Mongolian defense pact implications.

What else?

If I had taken Philippines would you feel the same way?

I am currently leaning towards trying a J1, 2 & poss 3 go at R next time instead. It always feels daft not to target R because of a measly 6 Mongolian inf.

[Elrood]

I think axis in BM should both early DoW… else the IPC advantage will be too big because of all the additional NOs for allies

[Private-Panic]

So I would be interesting in hearing Leo’s thoughts against a J1 DoW?