Global 1940 Wittman and Private Panic vs Credulous and Elrood

[Witt]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 artillery, 3 destroyers, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to 44 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
            1 bomber moved from French Indo China to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 artillery moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 artillery moved from Shensi to Tsinghai
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Tsinghai
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Sakha
                  Japanese take Sakha from Russians

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in 42 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 1 transport
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win, taking 42 Sea Zone from ANZAC with 1 bomber, 2 destroyers and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Java
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 fighter; Americans defend with 1 artillery
                Japanese win, taking Java from Americans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Americans: 1 artillery
            Battle in Kazakhstan
                Japanese attack with 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese retreated to Sikang
                Russians win with 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Tsinghai
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Tsinghai from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in Burma
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Burma from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 artillery moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            1 artillery moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 aaGun moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 artillery moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 artillery moved from Szechwan to Sikang
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 artillery moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 21 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 20 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 44 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 aaGun moved from Hopei to Kweichow
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines

Place Units - Japanese
            1 destroyer placed in 37 Sea Zone
            Japanese undo move 1.
            1 submarine placed in 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 36 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers and 1 fighter placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in French Indo China
            Japanese undo move 5.
            2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 67 PUs; end with 67 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 45 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 55 Sea Zone: 1 destroyer
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from 114 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to 113 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Western Ukraine: 1 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Archangel: 1 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Shantung : 1 flag
    Kwangsi : 1 flag
    Kiangsu : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Kiangsi : 1 flag
    Japan : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Jehol : 1 flag
    Okinawa : 1 infantry
    Manchuria : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Shensi : 1 flag, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 6 artilleries, 4 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Suiyuyan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kweichow : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry
    Hunan : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Hopei : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Tsinghai : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Szechwan : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Sikang : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 2 artilleries and 2 mech_infantrys
    Anhwe : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Ceylon : 1 flag
    Shan State : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Burma : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Malaya : 1 flag, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Borneo : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Guam : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 infantry
    Sakha : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Soviet Far East : 1 flag
    Siberia : 1 flag
    French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor and 2 infantry
    Celebes : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Java : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Sumatra : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    42 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 transport
    41 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    44 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    46 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    37 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    36 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    35 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
    16 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    5 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    6 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    55 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    Egypt : 1 fighter

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 42 / 46
    Russians : 28 / 36
    Japanese : 67 / 72
    Americans : 55 / 90
    Chinese : 1 / 10
    British : 33 / 40
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 6
    Italians : 14 / 19
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

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[Private-Panic]

Stop thinking about it and pull your finger out! :x

Or else the Ruskies will be coming for you! :-P

[Elrood]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 airfield, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 4 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 marines moved from Denmark to 112 Sea Zone
            2 cruisers and 2 marines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Norway to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Norway to Finland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Finland
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Norway to Finland
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Norway to Western Germany
            1 artillery, 2 infantry and 3 transports moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 113 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Caroline Islands to 55 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 46 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -2
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 113 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 2 marines and 3 transports; Russians loiter and taunt
                Germans defend with 1 battleship
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Germans
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Americans
                Americans win with 2 carriers, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Western Germany
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
                Americans win, taking Western Germany from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in Finland
                Americans attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
                Germans defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                Americans win, taking Finland from Germans with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Finland to Norway
            1 fighter moved from Norway to 113 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from Morocco to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Western Germany to Norway
            2 marines moved from 113 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Eastern United States to 110 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 airfield, 1 armour and 2 infantry placed in Norway
            1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 62 PUs; end with 62 PUs total
            Trigger Americans 7 North Africa Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Trigger Americans 6 Western Europe Beach Head: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 92 PUs

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[Elrood]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Suiyuyan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu

Place Units - Chinese
            3 infantry placed in Kansu

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 2 PUs; end with 3 PUs total

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[Private-Panic]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            2 fighters moved from Gibraltar to France
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to France
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to France
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
                  British take Trans-Jordan from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Belgian Congo to Rhodesia
                  British take Rhodesia from Germans
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter moved from India to Burma

Combat - British
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in France
                British attack with 5 fighters and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 bombers, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                British win, taking France from Germans, taking Normandy Bordeaux from British, taking Syria from British with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries, 2 bombers and 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 3 fighters
            Trigger French 1 Liberation By British: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_French_1_Can_Be_Liberated_Switch attached to French
            Trigger French 1 Liberation By British: French has 4 infantry placed in France
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Indo China 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Indo China 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Algeria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Algeria 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Madagascar 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Madagascar 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Syria 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Syria 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French West Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French West Africa 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Tunisia 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Tunisia 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Morocco 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Morocco 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Guiana 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Guiana 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Southern France 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated Southern France 3
            Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Central Africa 2 activates a trigger called: Trigger British Liberation France Liberated French Central Africa 3

Non Combat Move - British
            2 fighters moved from France to 110 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 armour, 5 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Iraq to Trans-Jordan
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Trans-Jordan
            4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Belgian Congo to Iraq
            1 fighter moved from Burma to India

Place Units - British
            1 factory_minor placed in Iraq
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Persia
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 32 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
            Trigger British 3 No Enemy Submarines: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 36 PUs
            Objective British 4 Control Convoy Lanes: British met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs; end with 6 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

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[Elrood]

You liberated France?? NOW?

[Private-Panic]

If not now, when?

[Private-Panic]

Or are you thinking you can recapture France’s income? Not in balanced mod - unless I misunderstand the rules.

Taking off G’s 2 bombers was a powerful incentive of course.

[Elrood]

@Private:

Or are you thinking you can recapture France’s income? Not in balanced mod - unless I misunderstand the rules.

Taking off G’s 2 bombers was a powerful incentive of course.

Oh Ok, I actually missed that. But I still would have preferred to liberate with US (may be next turn) and then move in UK planes for sport.  :roll:

[Private-Panic]

US empire building eh Seb! :wink:

Which makes me wonder why you PMed me to take Paris earlier today! :roll:

The Brits enjoyed taking Paris. Nuts to the Yanks: over paid, over sexed and over here! :evil:

[Elrood]

hehe  :-D

The verb I used was “raid” not “take” Paris.

You should pay closer attention to your american overlord, my British friend.  :mrgreen:

[Private-Panic]

Two nations separated by a common language ….

I assume that by raid you meant what most on this forum seem to call “strafe” then?

Anyway - the only allied loss is the income in territories that have reverted to French control.

[Elrood]

I tell you… before this game is finished France will build an aircraft carrier  :wink:

Fun fact… I dont know if you own the board game of A&A1940… but France has the same amount and kind of miniatures as e.g. Anzac does.

So: a few tanks, Bombers, 2 AC, 2 BBs … etc. etc.

I felt always that its a shame they rot in that box and NEVER come out.

[Elrood]

@Private:

Two nations separated by a common language ….

Also by the Atlantic, although i think Brits mostly forget that…hehe

How you guys stand on Brexit by the way?  :|

[Witt]

When are you two getting married?

[Elrood]

If bickering is your image of a marriage… then
.  :cry:

[Private-Panic]

I think the EU needs to change. It is overly interfering, insufficiently democratic and has a terrible non-record in nurturing a vibrant job creating European economy.

That said, Britain’s future is not as an inward looking, isolationist nation on the margins of Europe. So, although I think we should stay in the EU, I just wish the prospect of reform was much greater.

What’s your view of the EU Seb?

[Credulous]

@Private:

I think the EU needs to change. It is overly interfering, insufficiently democratic and has a terrible non-record in nurturing a vibrant job creating European economy.

That said, Britain’s future is not as an inward looking, isolationist nation on the margins of Europe. So, although I think we should stay in the EU, I just wish the prospect of reform was much greater.

What’s your view of the EU Seb?

I’d largely agree with that. I’d also like greater control over our own borders, as I don’t believe 300k of net migration a year is great for living standards, even if it is great for ‘economic growth’ which is of course necessary to maintain our debt to GDP ratio at sensible levels whilst our deficit is still quite large……

I can see you’ve now taken France. Is this the point where I’m supposed to resign or do we keep playing? (genuine question  :-)).

Cred

[Witt]

If I could vote, I would vote Out.
But I am a filthy Wop and  get no say. I thjnk England is belong ruined by the massive numbers of immigrants from undeserving countries. I do norlike the England that it is becoming.

Not sure on the surrender, Cred.

[Private-Panic]

@wittmann:

When are you two getting married?

I am still waiting for him to ask me …. :cry: