Teslas (Allies) vs Private Panic (Axis) in 1940 Global

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    TripleA Manual Gamesave Post for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Combat Move - British
                1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                      British take 98 Sea Zone from Neutral
                1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                2 fighters moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
                Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 97 Sea Zone
                Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Italians defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport
                    British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 fighter
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - British

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    I still need to make my British non-coms, but I’m at work and time has run out, sadly.

    Hopefully tonight.

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    You only came out of sz97 with +7. I assume you hoped to do much better than that?

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    +7 IPCs?

    I don’t normally care about IPC swings. Italy’s income is junk at this stage in the game (and now, hopefully forever). The UK economy is not great, but it is better. Italy’s naval units are very hard to replace, if not impossible at this point with British dominance in the med. Therefore, their units have a higher intrinsic value, especially in the short term, than those of Britain. I would have liked to have lost one less UK plane, for sure, but them’s the breaks.

    I’d have still done this fight without the Indian ocean destroyer coming up, and instead would have sent the battleship. Had that been the case, the IPC swing would have actually favored Italy. Even if that were the case, I’d consider it a positive outcome, as Italy is never going to be able to replace both its fleet and its air force. The chances of an effective Italian can-opener on Moscow have been reduced to nearly zero. The chances of Italy ever threatening Gibraltar or Egypt are 0% in the next couple of turns.

    I chose to destroy most of the RAF if it meant destroying Italy’s offensive viability, knowing full well Moscow would be more vulnerable because of it. The trade-off being that the UK can now (hopefully) turn the middle east into a fortress. This should allow them to:

    1: directly support Calcutta or, more likely, at least have a safe place for the Indians to run to should Japan come over
    2: discourage or interrupt a Japanese invasion through China
    3: delay the germans by at least two turns if they wish to take the middle east oil fields (including the caucasus)
    4: prevent the germans from taking both moscow and the middle east–they must now choose one or the other

    There’s a reason that people who play with bids (who are pussies, to be clear) basically always put a sub in the med to cripple Italy early.

    I wrote this response over the course of the last two hours in between watching things compile at work, so if it’s broken and makes no sense, please accept my apologies.

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    Hey tes

    I do find these inter-turn posts valuable.

    Do you really not “care” about TUV swings? I agree with not being focused on them - otherwise J’s air would not have attacked that Chinese stack despite the inevitability of a big negative TUV swing. But I do care.

    G is happy to choose between Moscow and the middle east!

    Italy is junk! But the UK’s air going is some compensation. It’s going to be interesting to see how the eastern front pans out.

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    Well, they are a measure of an outcome of a fight, but a very imperfect one, let’s put it that way. No, I never like seeing the loss of 18 IPCs to kill 6, but in certain instances, it’s more than worth it. (For instance 2x tank + 1 bomber vs. 2 infantry that are blocking your ally’s advance.)

    If all nations had the same economic clout, and the positioning was not so utterly important in this game, then TUV swings would matter. But that is definitely not the case, so they definitely don’t matter some times, and I’d argue most of the time (assuming opposed players of equal skill).

    Taking non-coms now.

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Purchase Units - British
                British buy 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

    Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
                UK_Pacific buy 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - British
                1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                      British take 98 Sea Zone from Neutral
                1 cruiser moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
                2 fighters moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
                1 bomber moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone

    Combat - British
                Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 97 Sea Zone
                Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                    British attack with 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Italians defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport
                    British win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                    Casualties for British: 1 bomber, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers and 1 fighter
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport

    Non Combat Move - British
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 97 Sea Zone to Malta
                1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 45 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
                      UK_Pacific take Celebes from Dutch
                1 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia
                      British take Persia from Neutral_Allies
                1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                      British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
                1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Iraq
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                1 transport moved from 80 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 7 infantry moved from Burma to India
                1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                      British take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
                1 mech_infantry moved from Eire to United Kingdom
                1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 fighter moved from Borneo to Malaya
                1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
                1 armour moved from Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba to Quebec

    Place Units - British
                1 submarine placed in 98 Sea Zone
                1 factory_minor placed in Iraq
                1 airfield placed in Iraq

    Turn Complete - British
                British collect 33 PUs; end with 36 PUs total

    Place Units - UK_Pacific
                1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in India

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 20 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,1,6,3,2,1,6,2,3,4
                UK_Pacific collect 17 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 17 PUs total
                Objective UK Pacific 2 Kwangtung And Malaya: UK_Pacific met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 22 PUs
                Some Units in India change ownership: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians
                1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kenya to Belgian Congo
                      Italians take Belgian Congo from British
                1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Morocco
                1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Morocco
                      Italians take Algeria from French
                1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
                1 artillery moved from Tunisia to Algeria

    Combat - Italians
                Battle in Morocco
                    Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                    French defend with 2 infantry
                    Italians win, taking Morocco from French with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 mech_infantry
                    Casualties for French: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Italians
                1 bomber moved from Morocco to Libya
                1 armour moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                1 armour moved from Greece to Romania
                1 artillery moved from Southern France to Northern Italy
                1 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

    Place Units - Italians
                1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in Southern Italy

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Italians collect 20 PUs; end with 20 PUs total

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    When you’ve beaten me at this game tes we’ll have to swap sides so that I can see what you do differently.

    BTW - I think that is 2 pints you owe me now!

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    Just had a quick look at your game against zexcis.

    No attempt at a sealion feint I see. Interesting after our exchange of posts earlier. Will be interested in future G devepolments.

    But J1 is much more aggressive than I was. Clearly something I need to think about. My strategy has been to destroy the Chinese threat before turning elsewhere.

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    I was assuming Zexcis is shitty Russian player. The plan is just to win ASAP.

    Yeah, if you’re reading this, I said it, Zexcis, you fat nerd.

    “The Chinese threat” really doesn’t exist unless you’re already losing. It’s more like “the Chinese annoyance”.

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    I am still at work, just realized what time it was. I’m going to head home before I take my turn. Sorry for the delay, sir.

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Purchase Units - ANZAC
                ANZAC buy 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - ANZAC

    Non Combat Move - ANZAC
                1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                      ANZAC take Sumatra from Dutch
                1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 56 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from South Australia to Queensland
                1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
                1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 63 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia
                1 infantry moved from New Zealand to 63 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 54 Sea Zone to Queensland
                3 fighters moved from Queensland to Java

    Place Units - ANZAC
                1 factory_minor placed in Queensland
                2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

    Turn Complete - ANZAC
                ANZAC collect 18 PUs; end with 19 PUs total
                Trigger ANZAC 1 Control Original And Malaya: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
                Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 2

    Combat Move - French

    Non Combat Move - French
                1 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt
                1 infantry moved from French Central Africa to French Equatorial Africa
                1 destroyer moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone

    Turn Complete - French

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    ANZAC is going to be mean this game.

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Research Technology - Germans

    Purchase Units - Germans
                Germans buy 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

    Combat Move - Germans
                1 infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
                      Germans take Ukraine from Russians
                1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Western Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
                1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
                1 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
                      Germans take Novgorod from Russians
                3 bombers moved from Western Germany to 98 Sea Zone
                2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine
                2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Germany to Belarus
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Belarus
                1 fighter moved from Western Germany to Western Ukraine

    Combat - Germans
                Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                    Germans attack with 3 bombers
                    British defend with 1 submarine; French defend with 1 destroyer
                    1 submarine owned by the British Submerged
                    Germans win with 3 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                    Casualties for French: 1 destroyer
                Battle in Western Ukraine
                    Germans attack with 3 fighters, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                    Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
                Battle in Belarus
                    Germans attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                    Russians defend with 2 infantry
                    Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Germans
                3 bombers moved from 98 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
                1 artillery moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
                1 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
                1 artillery moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Vyborg
                1 artillery moved from 115 Sea Zone to Vyborg
                1 artillery and 5 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
                2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Belarus to Eastern Poland
                7 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
                1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                3 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                3 armour and 10 mech_infantrys moved from Germany to Eastern Poland

    Place Units - Germans
                1 bomber placed in Western Germany
                1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 113 Sea Zone
                1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

    Turn Complete - Germans
                Germans collect 51 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
                Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
                Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs

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    Feel like I am playing G vs R well, but will rue J’s approach. ANZAC will certainly be a handful.

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    It looks as if you forgot to move your German sub from SZ 118. The most clearly optimal play here is to move it to SZ 125 to block the 5 IPC Russian NO, so I have done that for you.

    If you would not like to do this, please move it and give Russia 5 IPCs on Japan’s turn.

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    Woops, you can’t make it to 125 from there. Thank god! I will leave it in 118, but feel free to move it on Japan’s turn nontheless.

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    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

    Game History

    Round: 3

    Purchase Units - Russians
                Russians buy 5 artilleries and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

    Combat Move - Russians
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 118 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 125 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
                EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 118 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
                1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
                1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
                2 infantry moved from Archangel to Novgorod
                1 fighter moved from Russia to Ukraine
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
                2 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
                1 fighter moved from Russia to Western Ukraine

    Combat - Russians
                Battle in Novgorod
                    Russians attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                    Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
                Battle in Ukraine
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                    Russians win, taking Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Battle in Western Ukraine
                    Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 infantry
                    Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                3 artilleries moved from Archangel to Smolensk
                1 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
                9 artilleries moved from Russia to Bryansk
                1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
                1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
                1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
                1 mech_infantry moved from Caucasus to Iraq
                2 infantry moved from Kansu to Novosibirsk
                1 infantry moved from Olgiy to Timguska
                1 infantry moved from Dzavhan to Olgiy
                2 infantry moved from Central Mongolia to Tsagaan Olom
                6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
                2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
                1 submarine moved from 123 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone

    Place Units - Russians
                5 artilleries and 5 infantry placed in Russia

    Turn Complete - Russians
                Russians collect 28 PUs; end with 31 PUs total
                Trigger Russians 1 Lend Lease: Russians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs

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