No wait a doggon minute, Switch. I never said anything about government sanctioned christian schools. What I said is that the government has sanctioned the slaughter of the christian faith from schools. IF teachers want to pray, let them. IF the local PTA wants a nativity scene at christmas, let them. It’s freedom of speech and freedom of religion.
@ncscswitch:
When combined with things such as Jen’s statement about government established Christian Schools, or with statements from folks like Katherine Harris last week… then YES, it IS being attempted to be “forced down our throats.”
And the typical response from the Christian Right when anyone voices objection is “if you don;t like it, go to another country.”
That my friend IS forcing it upon those of us who are not fundamentalist Christians.
@Jermofoot:
@NoMercy:
I am not forcing this upon anyone. I am stating that men choose to sin on there own free will and because of sin you cannot enter into heaven unless you are saved.
people who are good there whole lives wont get there for being good. Life if you have realized isn’t fair, so if they knew the truth that they had to be saved and arn’t then its there own fault.
Insisting that there is a heaven (going on nothing more than hope), and then saying “that’s the way it is,” is indeed forcing it down others’ throats.
A) Mercy’s right. Christians are instructed to inform non-believers of the law, but not to force them to comply with it. If you choose to ignore the law, when the day of Judgement comes, you will not have a valid arguement that you did not know the law. We informed you that if you did not seek redemption through Jesus then the law says you will be sent into hell/exile from God. We do not enforce the law, we just let you know of it because we don’t want you to be in hell, we’d be much happier having you with us in bliss.
B) No, it isn’t forcing it down your throat. I have no qualms telling a bunch of people at a rally that killing babies is murder and that doing that, without seeking redemption in their hearts for doing wrong doing, may get them sent to hell. But after I’ve spoken my mind, if I’m just told to go away, I’ll stop preaching. IF you want to argue against it, then you are inviting me to continue trying to persuade you to my vantage point on the issue. (It’s the same for the other tenaments, I see a Muslim or a Buddist I’ll tell them I think they’re in the wrong religion because of A, B and C. IF they say that’s nice and change the subject, I let it drop too.)
C) Yes, if Adolf Hitler, in his heart, and asked for redemption before the end and had not committed suicide (which is, I believe, the only sin you cannot ask for forgiveness from since you are dead after you committ it, and you have to be alive to ask for redemption) then yes, I think his sins, as horrendous as they were, would be forgiven. After all, Saul, who also persecuted the Jews resulting in the torture and death of many was given redemption and became an evangelist himself (renamed Paul.) If even he could be forgiven of his sins, then anyone can. You only need to honestly repent, not just give it lip service.
