@cwglee51 gl&hf! No scramble and sub submerges
15L axis-dominion (axis) vs Adam512 (allies +22) - Game 2
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perhaps you are right on this. idk i tend to like them as a deterrence, but i guess we’re in the end game and you’re more likely to take risks. i of course usually don’t leave it up to mainly the aa to defend my lines, but in this case i guess you caught me under protected (and got a bit lucky with no aa hits at all). it’s all good. i got your two surviving mechs, so at least that’s a little more compensation back :-D
The airfield was needed anyway to stack Novgorod.
AA guns cost too much for what they do, no one should buy them unless they have limited production space. Even if they would cost 4 you would barely see an increase in the number of purchases. You on the other hand protected your fresh artillery and your supply lines with them. Do you think it was worth it? They cost a ton!
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oh, and i too can play the airbase game :wink:
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oh, and i too can play the airbase game :wink:
Will that airbase be abandonned right after it’s built like the NW Persia one?
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oh, and i too can play the airbase game :wink:
Will that airbase be abandonned right after it’s built like the NW Persia one?
hahaha yah i guess so…. :|
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Then I’m probably scrambling the Anzac fighter.
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Maybe not, depends on your movement.
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oh, sorry, i flew in 3 ftrs and 3 tacs and assumed no scramble. do you want to scramble anything after all? just roll it here on forum.
i have to go back to work, ran out of time, so i’ll wrap up the turn later…
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It depends on your movement. If you try and push off Novgorod I might scramble the Anzac fighter since it would die to the Italian air if I moved out.
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Yah I plan to have all my force except 2 inf go from bry to bel.
So if u want to scramble, here we go:
Attacker:
Rolls: 3@3 3@4; Total Hits: 33@3: (6, 3, 3)3@4: (6, 5, 4)Defender:
Rolls: 1@4; Total Hits: 11@4: (4)If you don’t wanna scramble then just ignore above roll.
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Don’t worry we can handle it when we have more time. I need to calc how good Novgorod is based off your movement and buy etc, and calc that if you hit it I could get Berlin.
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Ok sounds good, we’ll hold off until I submit my turn then u can decide if u want that result or to keep the ftr.
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Not so sure your focus should be Berlin at this point…it’ll be interesting to see if u can save Hawaii from its impending doom. :evil:
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Not so sure your focus should be Berlin at this point…it’ll be interesting to see if u can save Hawaii from its impending doom. :evil:
I’m not worried, there must be something I’m missing I guess.
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Well clearly one of us is missing something lol
But anyway, the plan is to stack Marshall Islands, nab midway for a landing platform, and have a huge German anti-blocker ready.
Not so sure your focus should be Berlin at this point…it’ll be interesting to see if u can save Hawaii from its impending doom. :evil:
I’m not worried, there must be something I’m missing I guess.
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Well clearly one of us is missing something lol
But anyway, the plan is to stack Marshall Islands, nab midway for a landing platform, and have a huge German anti-blocker ready.
Not so sure your focus should be Berlin at this point…it’ll be interesting to see if u can save Hawaii from its impending doom. :evil:
I’m not worried, there must be something I’m missing I guess.
And have enough air to take Hawaii? I’m sure it’s dicey enough for my taste.
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Well, I was in a hurry so it’s possible I missed something, but aside from maybe u sacrificing your navy, I calc’ed it at 100% easily
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Oh well good game! I can block but I can only stall for a bit, and Europe side isn’t going nearly well enough to make it worth continuing. Very well played! It’s been a while since I’ve learned this much from a game, it was enlightening. It was pretty close for a while, and the dice were pretty even too except for the Java disaster. Nice Axis teamwork :wink:
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good game! that was so intense lol, so much so that i’m going to need to take like a week off and get back on track with my life, especially my exercise and soccer training.
i really enjoyed this game. your allies is so damn tough, i have to say. that was an interesting opening with all of those US tps swarming europe so early on. really had me curling up, but building up my airforce helped keep your invasion options limited–of course at the cost of a weaker eastern front against moscow. speaking of moscow, good god i think that’s the biggest russian stack i’ve ever seen! :lol:
very interesting fronts all over the place…the african skirmishes were fun, but i definitely blew that one when i neglected to protect my conquests, particularly s.africa. definitely a significant blunder. i guess another minor mistake for me was allowing you to decimate that retreating bel force, but by then the impact was too small to matter.
i guess even tho my german navy wasn’t doing anything active at all, it served the important purpose of forcing you to build an even larger navy and keeping it pinned down there in 112. your achilles heel was london, so having raced back around from the med to save london by locking me inside, i knew it wouldn’t be an easy decision for you to let me out again. you had to make a choice as to where to really focus and stack with the UK, and i think you wisely chose to emphasize africa and the middle east, to stem the axis aggression in those regions.
honestly, i think this one could’ve been yours if a) you didn’t lose that massive chinese stack and b) you didn’t make several turns of aggressive US builds in norway and finland, which really allowed japan to dwarf the allies in the pac. when i saw all those bombers you built, and then especially when i saw that buy of 6 tacs, i said to myself, “ok, he is totally not respecting my japan” lol…so i really had to change that, and fast.
also, you bled a lot in java, which didn’t help. just plain bad luck.
there was a massive tuv vs ipc tradeoff going on for a while, but i think in the end, the axis tuv gain over the allies came out on top. japan’s income did dip for a bit, but bounced right back up after a few turns, and stayed there for good.
i also learned some good lessons, especially on how to be so damn aggressive with america in the pac…stacking java like that and lunging for tokyo…good stuff!
curious to hear what specific things you learned from this game. also curious to get feedback on what you thought i could improve on. i sometimes feel i’m not aggressive enough as the axis.
Oh well good game! I can block but I can only stall for a bit, and Europe side isn’t going nearly well enough to make it worth continuing. Very well played! It’s been a while since I’ve learned this much from a game, it was enlightening. It was pretty close for a while, and the dice were pretty even too except for the Java disaster. Nice Axis teamwork :wink:
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Haha yeah it was intense, our games tend to follow that trend :wink:, and sorry if I created upheaval in your life! :lol:
Yeah I enjoyed it too, and thanks I do my best :-). You did the right thing in building up air and ground and limiting my options. Once a global player realizes that it’s the Allies that are on a time schedule to slow down the Axis’ advance and that the US don’t have nearly enough income to actually scare the Axis is when they jump up in terms of skill. Here, you relied on a relatively free Japan to expand rapidly while turtling and biding your time with Germany, knowing that there’s no way the US can keep up that much troop production in the Atlantic for too long and that they’ll have to deal with Japan pretty soon. I’m curious though, which opening did you have more difficulty playing against, this one in which I went hard after Germany in the beginning or last game which was one big navy buy in the Pacific and then a switch to mass Atlantic?
Indeed Moscow was a very tough nut, you have the Italians for allowing Germany to drive right up to the gates of Moscow and get that money south. Moscow would be even bigger if I hadn’t been so lucky in Libya with UK, Japan being a nuisance and taking the Italian African territories back and your very effective strat bombing.Yeah that was a mistake on your part, you could have stayed there for a while longer, maybe indefinitely if you invested heavily into Africa., but certainly longer with minimal investment. Belarus wasn’t a big deal at that point indeed, but if Germany was on the ropes it could have been messy killing those units for not much.
Your German navy was probably worth almost every IPC spent into it lol, it looks like it surprised both of us. I thought I would win when you refused my offer to allow the loading of your troops, but lo and behold! What I did later (too much) and what I should have done earlier was make the dual threat on Novgorod and your fleet with constant air purchases. That really used up a lot of German money in carriers. Indeed, UK was weak from the skirmishes with Japan in Africa and couldn’t support the US much, and when they regained control you had a German Persia with Japanese land units and air reinforcing. That was very cost efficient, since it kept both India and Caucasus safe with just one stack. Its only drawback was that it couldn’t put pressure on anything really, UK had Iraq locked down fairly easily.
Yeah like I said before the expected winner according to me kept oscillating, it was truly a great game! Losing the Chinese stack was part of the reason why I did something drastic in Scandinavia, since if things continued along this path you would end up with all the Russian Eastern territories and you would be outproducing me by 20 or so IPCs, which is a very slow but sure loss. Japan always dwarfed the Allies, they had like 50 air haha.
Yeah Java was brutal, unexpected and a game changer. I consider it even, since I got a crucial Italy take with US in our last game which was higher than average and that played big part in my eventual win.
I was outproducing you by 10-25 for most of the game, but units concentrated in a small number of nations is a lot more effective than being spread out over multiple nations, not to mention the massive and perfect can openers at your disposal.
I was being as aggressive as I could be with the US, and surprisingly I managed to stack my fleet sometimes despite your can openers, though that was often pretty expensive. Thanks :-).
What I think you could improve on is being a bit more aggressive in the Pacific with Japan if US is not giving you attention. Also less factories, but I guess it seems that we disagree on that (you might have bought one less factory with Japan this game :lol:. For Germany, you are perfectly cautious with them considering what the US was coming in with. You could push earlier in the Middle-East with your fast even at the expense of letting Russia back into Bryansk, since that shouldn’t be permanent and the threat of your fast coming back up blocks Russia from making any drastic moves. You then get the Middle-East earlier while UK is still weak there, and even get the factory that is potentially in Persia. Also, you could build more fast with Germany. If you had more fast, your threat projection would be immense, and even Iraq and Norway could have been in danger, not to mention there would be no way for the Allies to stack Novgorod.
What do you think I could improve on? What mistakes/sub-optimal moves do you think I made apart from the ones already said?What I learned from this game: there is a much better than expected future in Scandinavia for the Western Allies if they are forced to build into it and reinforce it when either Normandy is stacked/deadzoned and/or there is a threatening German fleet that needs to be kept under check. Also, more US air is a must in Europe, it’s just very hard to find the extra IPCs for some since US is always stretched thin. The Allies need to threaten multiple spots at the same time, and the UK airforce is incredibly vital, as is killing German air (obviously). The Allies need to counter threat projection with their own, weaker of course, threat/stack projection. They also need to give some 80% or so battles in order to weaken the big Axis powers in order for the small ones to matter more (I didn’t get the chance to do it much this game, I tried doing it with China and look what happened :lol:).
Great game and very well played again! You again went up in the bid amount I would require to play Allies vs you, congrats on the promotion! I’m up for a rematch whenever you feel up to it :wink:.
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And btw the initial plan was to leave you the Allies for 23, but I just find the challenge of playing the Allies so much fun! Which side do you prefer?
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