G40 Gauss_Death (Allies +16) vs oysteilo REMATCH

[Gauss_Death]

Ok, regarding the battle in sz98, I would like an order of casualties before I begin.
Carrier, Cruiser, Destroyer, Fighter, T.Bomber (with no place for the planes to land if the Carrier gets hit) vs 4 Subs, 3 Fighters, 1 T.bomber, 1 S.bomber

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Ok, regarding the battle in sz98, I would like an order of casualties before I begin.
Carrier, Cruiser, Destroyer, Fighter, T.Bomber (with no place for the planes to land if the Carrier gets hit) vs 4 Subs, 3 Fighters, 1 T.bomber, 1 S.bomber

sub hits designed this way: 1 hit desgined to cruiser
2 hits cruiser and destroyer
3 hits+ cruiser destroyer, carrier

when including the planes:

2 hits as above
3 hits: cruiser, destroyer, tac
4 hits : 3 hits + fighter

[Gauss_Death]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 3 fighters and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 artillery and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            4 submarines moved from 81 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Egypt to 98 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from India to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 60 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            3 artilleries and 10 infantry moved from Burma to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan

Combat - British
            Battle in 98 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports; Italians defend with 1 destroyer
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans
                British win, taking 98 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 bomber, 3 fighters, 4 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 71
                Casualties for Germans: 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Yunnan
                British attack with 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                British win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine and 2 transports
                British win, taking 41 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine and 2 transports
            Battle in Shan State
                British attack with 3 artilleries and 10 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Shan State from Japanese with 3 artilleries and 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India
            1 fighter moved from 41 Sea Zone to India
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 52 Sea Zone to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 62 Sea Zone to New South Wales
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 74 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to 76 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 71 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 71 Sea Zone to Union of South Africa
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Karelia
            3 destroyers moved from 121 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Persia
            1 bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to Persia
            1 bomber moved from Persia to West India
            1 infantry moved from India to West India
            1 infantry moved from India to West India
            1 infantry moved from India to West India
            3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 aaGun moved from India to Burma
            1 aaGun moved from India to Burma

Place Units - British
            3 fighters placed in Egypt
            1 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,2,5,2
            UK_Pacific collect 7 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 7 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 artillery and 3 infantry

[Gauss_Death]

I…don’t know what to say about the battle in sz98 except…wow?

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

I…don’t know what to say about the battle in sz98 except…wow?

yeah nice roll! i think i am ready to toss in the towel. Sure, I can keep going for a few rounds, but japan is basically toast. Russia will fall, not on next G turn, but the one after that if I want to. The result is too many units lost

[Gauss_Death]

Ok.

Just a note, Russia wont fall in two turns.
This assumes you brought all of the big stack + 10tanks (stack behind it) and all your aircraft + 5 S.Bombers.

Russia will have the current stack plus 5 fighters and 1 T.Bomber from the UK, 1 fighter from France, 3 fighters from ANZAC, and next turn’s production (probably 9 infantry and 1 fighter, not sure yet).

[oysteilo]

I guess I have overlooked some stuff then. Then I definately throw in the towel here! Nice game on your side. How do you play as axis with the havey pacific buy by usa?

[Gauss_Death]

Honestly? I am still learning how to play this version of A&A. Every time I think I have it figured out I learn something new. Playing with you has helped a lot.

How would I have defended? Well, at one point I built a lot of production on the Chinese mainland in order to reduce the need for a ferry to reinforce it. That seemed to work alright. Then I built many more carriers to put the existing aircraft on in order to counter the american buildup.

My strategy was to hold off the Americans in the pacific while Germany won europe.

[Gauss_Death]

Oh, and the other thing is I wouldn’t let Russia hang around with that large of a stack with the americans able to land a force in Korea.

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Oh, and the other thing is I wouldn’t let Russia hang around with that large of a stack with the americans able to land a force in Korea.

I probably think this is a key point

[Gauss_Death]

Was thinking about this, a Submarine left next to Japan would prevent the tactic I used (transport landing with fighter only cover).

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Was thinking about this, a Submarine left next to Japan would prevent the tactic I used (transport landing with fighter only cover).

I will have to look at the details here to see exactely what happened

[Gauss_Death]

I take it back, I figured out how to defend against a sub being present.

What happened:
Attacker: Transport + 6 fighters
Defender: 2 Fighters
Result: attacker wins, can land.

What I was thinking:
Attacker: Transport + 6 fighters
Defender: 1 fighter + Submarine
Result: Transports lost, Defender Fighter lost.

Counter I thought I would be forced to use: Commit destroyers which would then be subject to your suicide attacks.

Counter that would work without being subject to suicide attacks: Commit 2 submarines to deal with your submarine. Submarines wouldn’t be subject to the suicide attack.

[Gauss_Death]

Anyhow, want to start a new one?

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Anyhow, want to start a new one?

Sure we can start another game, but I will be away for two weeks from friday

[Gauss_Death]

Ok, why don’t we start it when you return?

[oysteilo]

@Gauss_Death:

Ok, why don’t we start it when you return?

I’ll text you when I am back

[Gauss_Death]

Ok