Stalingradski v Infrastructure 2.0

[Major Major]

Technology Advancements

Rus spends 37 IPCs

GER: 1.50
RUS 1.85
JPN: 0
USA: 0
GBR: 0
ITA: 0
ANZ: 0

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 artillery and 11 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Combat - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns and 6 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
            6 infantry moved from Buryatia to Amur
            1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Kazakhstan
            1 aaGun moved from Russia to Samara
            1 armour moved from Volgograd to Rostov
            1 mech_infantry moved from Russia to Rostov
            1 armour moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            2 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            2 infantry moved from Karelia to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Archangel to Belarus
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            2 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia

Place Units - Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Novgorod
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            6 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

[Stalingradski]

Technology Advancements

JPN spends 26 IPCs

GER: 1.50
RUS 1.85
JPN: 1.30
USA: 0
GBR: 0
ITA: 0
ANZ: 0

[Stalingradski]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
            6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Amur
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Amur
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Amur
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Amur
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone

[Stalingradski]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Japanese
            Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Chinese from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
                Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to Allied

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 factory_minor and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
                  Japanese take Chahar from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
                  Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Yunnan
            4 infantry moved from Korea to Amur
            6 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 artillery moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 mech_infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 fighter moved from Korea to Amur
            2 fighters moved from Manchuria to Amur
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Manchuria to Amur
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Amur
            1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 fighter moved from Formosa to Hunan
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 5 Sea Zone to Amur
            1 battleship moved from 19 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 6 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Hunan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Hunan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Amur
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 5 fighters, 12 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 2 aaGuns and 18 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Amur from Russians with 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 4 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 fighters and 10 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 aaGuns and 18 infantry
            Battle in Yunnan
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 4 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Russians and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Americans and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for British and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for French and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Neutral_Allies and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Olgiy
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Dzavhan
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Tsagaan Olom
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Central Mongolia
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Buyant-Uhaa
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Ulaanbaatar
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Olgiy
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Dzavhan
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Tsagaan Olom
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Central Mongolia
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Buyant-Uhaa
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Ulaanbaatar

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar
            1 artillery moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from Okinawa to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            2 bombers moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 33 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            2 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Amur to Manchuria
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor placed in Manchuria
            2 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 31 PUs; end with 31 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 41 PUs

[Stalingradski]

Well, I took a risk, and you hit three fighters with your Russian AA…

[Major Major]

reroll elligible?  SHould it be?

[Major Major]

Also hate to add insult to injury, but your amphibiouis units should have died first by our new rule…

[Major Major]

reroll from start of round 2?

[Stalingradski]

Ugh… I never would have brought the armor - I guess I never understood the ramifications of the rule, which is my fault.

Wasn’t the spirit of the amphibious rule related to island hopping? And wasn’t it actually designed to be more about island battles that last more than 3 rounds (or 4 on the first round)?

I’m not sure what to do about it, and am very tired from work, so I’ll think about it more tomorrow.

[Major Major]

rerolling from round 2 will most likely benefit you but is most fair way.  If we want to edit rule I am fine with that too.  But I think we need to at least have the risk of losing the amphibious units if a retreat happens…

[Stalingradski]

I am both extremely tired and on allergy medicine - a bad recipe for comprehension… could you explain why reroll after round 2, as if I were in kindergarten?

Also, why after round 2?

I’m asking in a genuinely curious, non combative way… I’m just struggling to understand  :-)

[Major Major]

I said after round two because that is when you would have had to make different casualty choices based on our new proposed rule.  I.e. you had to lose an art and an arm in round 1.

That being said the more I have thought of it the stupider I think that proposed rule is.
New 3 Round Rule:
    Battles only last 3 rounds.  At the end of round 3 the attacker must retreat following the standard retreat rules of the game.
    EXCEPTION; The first game turn has a 4 round limit instead of 3.
    EXCEPTION II; Amphibious assaults in which at least 50% of participants are amphibious shall go unlimited rounds until resolution.
    In any amphibious and land combined assaults that are not 50% or over amphibious the battle goes 3 rounds only before retreat, additionally all amphibious units must be the first casualties and will be lost even if not taken as casualties when retreat happens after 3 rounds.

I think now that just removing the colored portion is best.  Simpler and realistically after several months of combat any amphibious forces would have merged land forces and been able to retreat.  I wish embroiling was possible online because that is where the spirit of the rule came into play when proposed.

That being said. If you agree then we remove it and the battle stands.
It basically looks like you lost 2 fts but gained 2 inf due to luck…  A rough start.

Let me know if you want me to keep going or if you want to discuss.
I assume we are removing that rule in both games if you agree.

[Stalingradski]

Thank you sir - I agree with the change for both games - I appreciate your willingness to look it over.

For whatever reason (head density?), I had never really incorporated that part of our rule into my awareness.

[Major Major]

Technology Advancements

USA spends 52 IPCs

GER: 1.50
RUS 1.85
JPN: 1.30
USA: 2.60
GBR: 0
ITA: 0
ANZ: 0

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Americans
            Trigger Americans Friendly With Mongolians activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 3 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Philippines to Guam
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 28 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 armour moved from Central United States to Western United States
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States

Place Units - Americans
            1 infantry placed in Central United States
            1 carrier, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total

[Major Major]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Yunnan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  0/5 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Yunnan
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Yunnan, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 artillery owned by the Japanese lost in Yunnan
                Chinese win, taking Yunnan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Szechwan

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 9 PUs; end with 9 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 15 PUs

[Major Major]

Technology Advancements

GBR spends 28+17=45 IPCs

GER: 1.50
RUS 1.85
JPN: 1.30
USA: 2.60
GBR: 2.25
ITA: 0
ANZ: 0

[Major Major]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 Alpha 3, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - British
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 96 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 106 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Ethiopia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 76 Sea Zone to Ethiopia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Ethiopia
            1 cruiser moved from 39 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone

[Major Major]

scramble sz97?
i hope i fair better than the italian counter attack is in the other game…