Game History
Round: 1 Purchase Units - Japanese Japanese buy 1 infantry, 1 marine and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens; Politics - Japanese Japanese takes Political Action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and British from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and UK_Pacific from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and ANZAC from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Dutch from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Japanese and French from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and British from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and UK_Pacific from Concordant to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and ANZAC from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral Japanese succeeds on action: Political Action Japanese To War With Allies: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral Combat Move - Japanese Trigger Japanese Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared for rulesAttachment attached to Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 34 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 destroyer, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 27 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from Caroline Islands to 34 Sea Zone 1 cruiser and 1 marine moved from 34 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone 1 marine moved from 33 Sea Zone to Gilbert Islands 1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 7 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Hokkaido to 7 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 2 infantry moved from 32 Sea Zone to Wake Island 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 132 Sea Zone 1 fighter moved from Formosa to 132 Sea Zone 2 bombers moved from Japan to 132 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Siam to French Indo China Japanese take French Indo China from French 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Fukien to Kwangtung 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kiangsu to Kwangtung 1 infantry moved from Fukien to 21 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Formosa to 21 Sea Zone 2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Japan to 7 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 artillery moved from Southern Manchuria to 20 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Okinawa to 20 Sea Zone 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Chahar Japanese take Chahar from Chinese 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Jehol to Shansi 1 battleship and 1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone 2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Davao 1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Manchuria to Shansi 1 fighter moved from Korea to Shansi 1 fighter moved from Southern Manchuria to 36 Sea Zone 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe Japanese take Anhwe from Chinese 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi Japanese take Kiangsi from Chinese Combat - Japanese Battle in Wake Island Battle in Gilbert Islands Battle in Shansi Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Wake Island from Americans, taking Gilbert Islands from UK_Pacific, taking Shansi from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3 Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry Battle in 27 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers Americans defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport Japanese win, taking 27 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25 Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine Casualties for Americans: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport Battle in Kwangtung Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber British defend with 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 harbour 1 fighter owned by the Japanese retreated UK_Pacific win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -17 Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Casualties for British: 1 infantry Battle in Yunnan Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber Chinese defend with 4 infantry Japanese win, taking Yunnan from Chinese with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Chinese: 4 infantry Battle in 36 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 battleships, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 3 transports Americans defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Japanese Japanese win with 2 battleships, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 3 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14 Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine Battle in Davao Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 1 infantry Japanese win, taking Davao from Americans with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter and 1 infantry Battle in 132 Sea Zone Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 cruiser and 1 fighter British defend with 1 battleship Japanese win with 2 bombers and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7 Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser Casualties for British: 1 battleship Non Combat Move - Japanese 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Siam 1 fighter moved from 132 Sea Zone to Siam 2 bombers moved from 132 Sea Zone to Siam 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi 1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Shantung to Anhwe 1 fighter moved from Shansi to Jehol 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shansi to Shantung 3 infantry moved from Southern Manchuria to Jehol 1 aaGun moved from Northern Manchuria to Southern Manchuria 1 infantry moved from Korea to Northern Manchuria 2 infantry moved from Korea to Southern Manchuria 1 fighter moved from Kwangtung to Formosa 1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 artillery moved from Japan to Kyushu 1 infantry moved from Japan to Kyushu 2 carriers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 34 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 27 Sea Zone to 32 Sea Zone 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to Caroline Islands 1 fighter moved from 36 Sea Zone to Paulau Place Units - Japanese 1 infantry and 1 marine placed in Japan 3 transports placed in 7 Sea Zone Japanese undo move 2. 3 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone Turn Complete - Japanese Japanese collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs Objective Japanese 6 Home Islands: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs Objective Japanese 7 Vital Forward Bases: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 44 PUs2014 League playoff rd 2 - (3) Zhukov44(+18) vs (2) Gamerman01(Axis)
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 10
Purchase Units - Italians
Italians buy 1 bomber and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;Combat Move - Italians
1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea ZoneCombat - Italians
Battle in 96 Sea Zone
Italians attack with 1 fighter
Americans defend with 1 transport
Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Americans: 1 transportNon Combat Move - Italians
1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
1 mech_infantry moved from Southern Italy to Western Germany
1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to India
1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to West India
1 mech_infantry moved from Ukraine to Volgograd
1 armour moved from Volgograd to Kazakhstan
4 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
3 aaGuns moved from Southern Italy to Northern ItalyPlace Units - Italians
1 bomber placed in Southern Italy
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from 95 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to 98 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 submarine placed in 95 Sea ZoneTurn Complete - Italians
Italians collect 16 PUs; end with 18 PUs total -
Triple A has me with 100% odds on Hong Kong with 16 out of 26 units remaining
I might have made a mistake. Now I’m getting 98%
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Whatever - play it out to the bitter end if you want - I’m not trying to offend you, just looking to let Ghost back in on the action. Like you said, he’s waiting
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You do have a 5% chance of sinking the fleet in Z33, which would make the block of Hawaii impossible
However, that would only be prolonging the inevitable, wouldn’t it?
I’ll play Italy when I get back, so you can certainly play ANZAC and try to get lucky again…
May as well play it out. There have already been a few moments in this game where a low-odds outcome has dramatically altered the game situation. Besides, Hitler sent FDR a confidential cable that he wants the Chinese and the Japanese to destroy themselves to pave way for the 1000 year reich.
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 10
Purchase Units - ANZAC
ANZAC buy 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 4 PUs;Combat Move - ANZAC
1 fighter moved from New South Wales to Queensland
1 infantry moved from Queensland to New South WalesNon Combat Move - ANZAC
Place Units - ANZAC
1 submarine placed in 62 Sea ZoneTurn Complete - ANZAC
ANZAC collect 8 PUs; end with 12 PUs total -
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 10
Combat Move - French
1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea ZoneNon Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9
Game History
Round: 10
Combat Move - French
1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea ZoneNon Combat Move - French
Turn Complete - French
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You still can’t place 4 Chinese in Hong Kong. You need to place them somewhere else. Could affect Germany’s turn, so I guess I have to wait.
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You still can’t place 4 Chinese in Hong Kong. You need to place them somewhere else. Could affect Germany’s turn, so I guess I have to wait.
Source?
If you’re correct I’ll probably want to redo the Anzac turn.
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You still can’t place 4 Chinese in Hong Kong. You need to place them somewhere else. Could affect Germany’s turn, so I guess I have to wait.
Source?
If you’re correct I’ll probably want to redo the Anzac turn.
china can occupy hong kong but cannot place units there. it’s in the rulebook.
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Just look at the China rules in the Pacific rulebook, Zhuk. Page 8 or 10 or something. It’s crystal clear. Has to be originally Chinese
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I guess I’ll let you re-do your ANZAC turn, but you should have known the rule.
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NM, just realized I haven’t made a move since France/ANZAC, so certainly, you can amend their turn
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Did you not read what I wrote before, though? I said you couldn’t place Chinese in Hong Kong and needed to re-place them, yet you didn’t. I had most of my German combat move done when I noticed you hadn’t done anything to fix China.
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Just look at the China rules in the Pacific rulebook, Zhuk. Page 8 or 10 or something. It’s crystal clear. Has to be originally Chinese
According to the 2nd edition rulebook, on pg 10, it says “New Chinese Units can be mobilized on any territory controlled by China, including those captured on the same turn”. Also on pg 10 it says “China can temporarily control” Kwangtung. Seems pretty clear. Is there passage later in the rulebook that contradicts this?
http://www.axisandallies.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/12/Axis-Allies-Pacific-1940-Second-Edition.pdf
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Yep, Zhukov has it right! Just read it entirely for myself. But now I’m wondering if that also means China gains income off of it?! Since it is temporarily under Chinese control, same as if another ally took control of it.
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Thats from this link:
New Chinese units can be mobilized on any Chinese territory that is controlled by China,…
However, Kwangtung and Burma are special cases. Although they are not Chinese territories, Chinese forces can move into them. These are the only non-Chinese territories that Chinese units can
occupy. China can even temporarily control them, but only if it recaptures them from the Axis while India is under Axis control.Under those conditions, they control and hence can mobilize?
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Well now I’ve found a passage from Krieghund that support’s Gamer’s position. Yet another example of unclear rules and TripleA misinterpreting them, followed by “gotcha” moments after my turn has been played. Had I known I can’t place them there, then I would have played the UK turn differently.
Now the rulebook online is saying “Chinese” territory, so perhaps Krieg’s reasoning is that Kwangtung isn’t Chinese? This is quite confusing–if China isn’t allowed to mobilize units there, then the rulebook ought to explicitly say that.
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You know what I’m confused about? Why does the rulebook clearly make a distinction between occupying and controlling, if there isn’t any functional difference between them?
“These are
the only non-Chinese territories that Chinese units can
occupy. China can even temporarily control them, but only
if it recaptures them from the Axis while India is under Axis
control.”Like what advantage does controlling these territories have over just occupying them, if China can’t place new units there or gain any income from them? See what I mean? I’m thinking the designers meant there to be a difference, or why bother making the distinction?
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hm, one thing is for sure, I always thought you cant mobilize there. But the wording in the rulebook at least suggest otherwise. Then again, Krieghund has superior authority, I guess.
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