New! Dice Roller is Installed

[djensen]

I’ve updated the dice command to be a little more friendly …

For instance previously you could only roll one set at a time
dice 26d6

Now you can break it up into groups
dice 5d6 20d6 1d6

Dice:
Attacking (in sequence: 5 @ 1, 20 @ 3, 1 @4)
dice 5d6 20d6 1d6
Rolling 5d6 20d6 1d6:
(2, 2, 4, 6, 6)  (1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6)  (5)

Defending (18 @ 2, 3 @3)
dice 18d6 3d6
Rolling 18d6 3d6:
(1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5)  (3, 4, 6)

The results are grouped as specified and sorted lowest to highest.

[djensen]

The next step will be something like this
:dice 4d6@1 3d6@4:

but as you can see it does not work like this now

[cyan]

@ncscswitch:

Also prevent any attempts to “cheat” because if you attempt to edit a post with dice, it returns to HTML coding.

lets see about that.  :-P
okay conculsion you can not edit the dice but you can delete them and reroll(which you can’t do in the games in progres forum anyway) 100% save

[frood]

@djensen:

The next step will be something like this
:dice 4d6@1 3d6@4:

but as you can see it does not work like this now

That would be awesome. I might have to start donating to this site…

[djensen]

Also if you almost get it right but not quite, this is what you’ll see …

dice 3d5 3dd dd3
Rolling 3d5 3dd dd3:
(3, 4, 5)  (?)  (?)

[frood]

Might need a ruling in my tournament game as a result of this change - I was not aware of it when I rolled my combat for Japan 1. I was pleased to see a high number of hits by my infantry and ACs (attacking at 1), but none of my fighters scored hits. Then I saw this update and realized what happened - went back and checked and sure enough all my dice were sorted. The way I roll :) is like this:

5 Inf 2 Ftr attacking @ 1,1,1,1,1,3,3
Rolling 7d6:
(2, 2, 3, 3, 3, 5, 5)

As you can see, any ones got assigned to infantry, and my Ftrs would end up with 5s and 6s.

Didn’t notice it because they were all pretty small battles and I had no reason to think it had changed.

I don’t know if this helped or hurt me (Pearl went well, but China didn’t), the question is, should I re-roll my entire turn? Only noticed after the US already went.

[djensen]

Any dice rolls rolled today using the new system incorrectly should be re-rolled. Sorry. So, yes, you need to re-roll your attacks.

dice 5d6 2d6
Rolling 5d6 2d6:
(1, 2, 3, 5, 6)  (3, 4)

[frood]

Already rerolled by agreement. Worked out well - killed one more sub and saved an AC, not bad for the ol’ bottom line.

It raises an interesting question - what kind of combination of units would benefit most from ordered dice? Let’s see, I guess you’d want to match what the dice would likely roll at, starting with 2’s - let’s say, 2 Inf 2 Art, 2 Arm 2 Ftr 2 Bom:

Total punch of 28, expect 4.66 hits? Yup, my sim confirms.

rolling 4@2, 4@3, 2@4:
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, 5, 6, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(2, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 6, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 2, 2, 2, 2, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 1, 2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5, 6, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(2, 3, 3, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 2, 3, 3, 3, 4, 5, 5, 5, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 1, 1, 2, 2, 4, 6, 6, 6, 6)  
Rolling 10d6:
(1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 1, 2, 3, 4, 6)

[frood]

6 + 0 + 6 + 4+7+ 0+ 3+ 3+ 5+ 9

43 hits, or 4.3 - actually worse than expected. It does seem that this will make extreme results more likely.

Hmm - what would be the optimal combination? No matter what, your Boms become useless, unless you reverse the order, in which case your Inf/Art/Subs are useless.

This has inspired me to order the dice in my sim too, easier to visually confirm # of hits.

[frood]

Oops, the two 0 results were actually 1 hits each.

[djensen]

The numbers are still generated randomly. All I do now is put them into an array and then sort the array. Nearly exactly the same.

[frood]

@djensen:

Any dice rolls rolled today using the new system incorrectly should be re-rolled. Sorry. So, yes, you need to re-roll your attacks.

dice 5d6 2d6
Rolling 5d6 2d6:
(1, 2, 3, 5, 6)  (3, 4)

Now another issue has arisen - my opponent has re-rolled his subsequent Russian battle, even though it was in no way affected by the Japan turn which I had to re-roll. The only difference was in SZ 41, which is a long way from Karelia, and in any event he declared the exact same combat.

Initially my two defending Inf in Karelia both hit as they died, and on the re-roll they both missed. Need a ruling - do ALL subsequent battles have to be re-rolled? I rather preferred the results of the first time he rolled the battle.

Switch?

[frood]

Never mind, my opponent has agreed to use the original dice.

[djensen]

New Feature for the dice roller! Now you don’t need the d6 anymore. The default dice are now d6. The new syntax is as follows …

dice 3 2 1 1
Rolling 3 2 1 1:
(1, 3, 3)  (2, 4)  (2)  (4)

The old one still works …
dice 4d12
Rolling 4d12 4d12:
(1, 2, 7, 11)  (2, 2, 5, 11)

You can mix them but don’t do it.

[frood]

Sweet. Now uber-convenient!
:dice 2  3  1:

[frood]

Oops, it doesn’t work if there’s more than one space between dice.

Rolling 3 1 3:
(1, 1, 2)  (1)  (1, 5, 6)

[frimmel]

Rolling 1 2 3 4 5 6:
(5)  (1, 5)  (1, 2, 3)  (3, 4, 5, 6)  (1, 2, 2, 4, 5)  (1, 3, 3, 4, 4, 5)

Rolling 1d6 2d6:
(3)  (4, 5)

Rolling 2d12:
(1, 4)

[frimmel]

That is very slick. Nice work. Kudos and brewskis to the site owner.  8-)

[M4A1 Sherman]

Rolling 3d6:
(4, 5, 6)

That is sweet, great work!!!

[NoMercy]

(5@1 , 4@2 , 3@3 , 1@4)
Rolling 5 4 3 1:
(2, 2, 3, 4, 5)  (3, 3, 4, 4)  (3, 4, 6)  (5)