@gen-manstein great, I look forward to see it.
AARHE: Phase 2: National victory conditions
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Italy has to focus on africa, germany has to focus in europe
uk has to mainly keep her empire together, and contain Soviet expansion within eastern europe.
soviets have to create the eastern bufferzone and get a piece of china from japan, but try to get further into the west
USA has to free western europe and hold the fort down between UK and USSR
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I think NA’s were covered extensively…
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How’s it going… I got… distracted :-)
What’s the best site for hosting a simple text document? Once somebody tells me I’ll post the draft of the numbers for review.
In a standard game without Italy I’d suggest allowing Germany to work towards both powers’ goals, but divide it’s point total by two.
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Just post here… it will be used by Tekky to reformat anyway.That way you save time. After tekky is done i have to “jazz it up” for the booklet being prepared.
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I tried that before… the table is destroyed.
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ok email it to me and ill take care of it. Ill then post it here. Remember I’m a MOD around here.
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just upload a file to rapidshare.de or something
jazz it up
I am thinking a clean compact version and 2nd version nicely presented with photos.
And the 2nd version would be a standalone document like LHTR.I don’t see why we need someting nicely presented with photos but not standalone.
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Yes right… what im doing is to use the open spaces and fill them with something less void. The reference cards are basically done. I made a Italy card with them at 15 ipc, so USA now has 15 ipc to loan to UK/Soviets
Dont worry you will be very happy with the final product. I have to make everything to look like it was released by hasbro to the finest detail. That will put some “iron in the glove” as they say.
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Yeah it’ll look “serious”.
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Imperious Leader wants me to ‘jazz up’ the chart, which I can understand… it was a bit of a mess :-D
Anyway, while I’m doing that I might as well try to set individual nation’s victory conditions (ie contain the USSR etc). I’d like input on ideas, especially concerning Italy.
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Italys goal was to re-establish the glories of the old Roman Empire… They must control or have troops in:
France
Italy
Lybia
Algeria
Egypt
Trans-Jordan
Persia
Balkans
Ukraine SSR?or Double there Income?
GG
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Doubling their income or having troops in those areas would be too easy, no?
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Well, If we keep original OOB list, then Germany already “controls” part of the empire… So technically there is not a lot that can be done to change that… On the other hand, there job could be to support the Germans in Military endavours, which seemed to be what they did post 1941 (us being in 1942, makes there original national victory conditions gone…)
Or another good one is they have to control all of Africa…
GG
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Which IMO would also be too easy :lol:
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Then I say give them none… They are the “extra newbie” player position anyways, allow the German players “varied” goals influence there combat and purchases…
GG
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Hmm… Have Germany and Italy share the same goals, that total 100 points instead of 50. The total is then divided by two to see if they beat Japan or not.
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Well with Italy being smaller in IPC output you could make it half the Germans, so Germany has to achieve 75 of those points to win over Japan and Italy…
GG
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Ahh this presents a new problem….
Italy is at 15 IPC currently
50 Victory points is not suitable for them to declare victory… perhaps they are assumed under german points.
However , they have their own agenda… it was not tied to what germany did. IN the early part of the war they attacked Greece w/o even telling Hitler and also 1936 attacked Abbysinia. They clearly wanted a new roman empire and wanted to turn the Medd into a lake. perhaps Germany can goto 75 points and Italy at 25 points? -
and then everybody WANTS to play Italy, because the others do the work and then they win :-)
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clarification
is this national victory condition or individual victory?
the points are just used to measure whether you’ve achieved a “national victory”, not whether you’ve beat all other players in the game?
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