15L Dizzkneeland33 (+15) vs Gamerman01

[gamerman01]

You sure you want to start a game with me right now?

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

You sure you want to start a game with me right now?

J1 will be fun.

[gamerman01]

Well, since you said that, I will have to say don’t expect it to go like last time.  And I think it’s a bad idea.  Radio silence doesn’t start until G1, right?

[boldfresh]

G1 radio silence.

[boldfresh]

If you sink dizzys  whole fleet it’s gonna be so epic.

[DizzKneeLand33]

Wait a minute – are you really counting that roll, even though you posted your turn and then I posted a turn after?

[gamerman01]

Absolutely.  You pointed out that the battle wasn’t over.  Then you protested that your turns were done, so I thought the best thing to do to placate you would be to keep attacking with the bomber.  The irony is very thick.

Why wouldn’t I have a right to finish the battle?  You rightly pointed out that I forgot to roll the defense.

You do realize this game is completely decided anyway?  If you have a big problem with this for some reason, man I don’t even care if you put that cruiser back and take my bomber off.  The Germans will clean up the fleet, and also take Moscow soon.  I don’t need to argue with you about a bomber or a cruiser.  Again, you’re the one that pointed it out.  This is getting more insane by the hour.

Now what do you lose?  And I do think this is a good time to resign.

[gamerman01]

Did you notice that I didn’t finish the battle before playing ANZAC/France?  If so, then why did you play ANZAC/France?

[gamerman01]

You would have zero problem with this if you had hit back.  This is interesting.  Well, I have no reason to upset you.  Whatever you think is fair.

[DizzKneeLand33]

You know, it’s one thing to receive only one hit and then retreat since I didn’t hit two. �It’s quite another to keep the attack going after the French turn was posted, instead of retreating your remaining unit. �Had I been in your shoes, that would have been what I would have done – it’s sportsmanship, and it was your error to begin with.

Sorry, but I thought this league was about sportsmanship? �Maybe I misunderstood… :(

The reason I played it out was because I don’t know what the hell you are doing rolling all of this on the forum.  I thought I just missed something.  You didn’t respond, so I went ahead with my turn.

[DizzKneeLand33]

I wouldn’t have had a problem with this if I had hit back?  Are you being serious??

[DizzKneeLand33]

I resign, and I’m very, very disappointed in how you ended this.

[DizzKneeLand33]

Here I am, just trying to play a game to learn something, and you keep telling me how much I should resign.

[boldfresh]

This is just a little misunderstanding guys clear it up and move on.  Nothing to argue about.

[gamerman01]

@DizzKneeLand33:

You know, it’s one thing to receive only one hit and then retreat since I didn’t hit two. �It’s quite another to keep the attack going after the French turn was posted, instead of retreating your remaining unit. �Had I been in your shoes, that would have been what I would have done – it’s sportsmanship, and it was your error to begin with.

You WANTED me to retreat???  I don’t understand.  You were complaining that you had moved ANZ/France already so it would affect them.  To minimize that effect and actually respond to your complaint, I did NOT retreat the bomber so that it would die.  What part of “do whatever you think is fair” do you not understand?  I do NOT need you to resign, I do NOT care, I just suggested resigning because that would clear up this little issue anyway.  I am a good sport, I don’t know why you think this is not sporting, and I DO think it makes a big difference that I hit and you didn’t, because had I hit or missed, and you hit me back, I really don’t think you would have any problem with this.

Sorry, but I thought this league was about sportsmanship? �Maybe I misunderstood…. :(

You are misunderstanding several things here.  Take a deep breath

The reason I played it out was because I don’t know what the hell you are doing rolling all of this on the forum.  I thought I just missed something.  You didn’t respond, so I went ahead with my turn.

I rolled it on the forum because I misclicked.  I told you that up front.  Also, Triple A often doesn’t do fleet battles quite right.  No reason not to roll it on the forum.  You astutely pointed out that I did not roll my final defense.  The battle wasn’t complete.  You played ANZ/France anyway.  ANZ/France are quite insignificant, and really hardly significantly affected by the 96 battle anyway, so in my view you are being the bad sport.

Whatever you want.  I thought the bomber and battleship were dead, and didn’t even realize to roll the final defense.  So reset it to where it was and act like this never happened.  I think I carried things out in a fair and sportsmanlike manner.  I see you protesting after the dice went against you, is what I see.

[gamerman01]

@Boldfresh:

This is just a little misunderstanding guys clear it up and move on.  Nothing to argue about.

Exactly.
Don’t be offended at my suggestions for resignation.  I just honestly think this game was totally decided as soon as you went north to Karelia, because you completely lost Moscow for cheap at that point.  I would be happy to play until I meet victory conditions, if you don’t resign.
The printed word is often misunderstood.

[DizzKneeLand33]

No worries.

“I see you protesting after the dice went against you, is what I see.”

Please quote ANYWHERE in these 10 pages where I in any way complained about my dice.

That was like the 3rd time you said I should resign.  Do you think that’s a sporting comment to make to your opponent in the opening rounds?

[DizzKneeLand33]

No need to answer that question, it was rhetorical.  ;)

[boldfresh]

I recommend continuing so dizz can learn why not to venture heavy into scandy.

[DizzKneeLand33]

My only complaint about the dice is this: they took away my opportunity to really learn something regarding Axis tactics as played by a Tier E player.  That’s my complaint.

They didn’t change the ultimate outcome, just like the misplayed battle didn’t affect the outcome.  But what both things did was steal that opportunity away to learn the game.

That’s all.  Peace.  :mrgreen: