• Here they are…
    Assume and R1 of Ukraine and West Russia, both were “average”… both fell to Russia.

    At the start of G1, Germany has 7 INF in Central Europe, 3 in Northern, 2 in Southern and 2 in Western, plus 3 in Germany.  They have 7 ARM left in all of Europe, 5 FIGs, a BOM, and 1 ART (not counting Africa troops).

    Germany HAS to re-take Ukraine… not an option.  You said you also want Karelia.  And you go after Egypt.

    The Karelia move pulls 2 German INF to Karelia, plus the 3 Norway forces (if you want to have more than token resistance against the UK attack in UK1).  Egypt requires 2 units (1 INF, 1 ART) from Southern to leave Europe for Africa.  You are also going to be sending at least 1 FIG and your BOM down there if you want to TAKE it, and have a chance at re-taking it in G2.  Against Ukraine you use minimal force to take… Let’s say 3 INF and 1 ARM, and you take it with 2 INF and 1 ARM.  And lets assume you stage your ARM in Eastern (or perhaps you advance stage to Karelia, so shift those forces that could reach…  You protect your Western FIGs with an INF from Germany and 1 from Southern.  You consolidate the rest of your forces from Central Europe to Eastern, and you “picket” Belorussia with 1 INF.

    For build placement, you need to put 2 units in Southern for transport to Africa to re-take Egypt in G2… 1 INF, 1 ART to give you offensive punch.  That leaves 3 INF Germany.

    Here is your forces summary after G1 with average dice…
    Europe:
    Western:  4 INF, 3 FIG, 1 AA
    Southern:  1 INF, 1 ART, 1 AA, 1 IC
    Germany:  3 INF, 1 AA, 1 IC
    Balkans:  vacant
    Ukraine:  2 INF, 1 ARM
    Belorussia:  1 INF
    Karelia:  9 INF, 3 ARM
    Eastern:  3 ARM
    Norway:  vacant.

    Africa:
    Libya:  1 INF, 1 ART, 1 FIG, 1 BOM
    Egypt:  1 ARM, 1 ART

    Naval:
    SZ15:  1 BB, 1 TRN
    SZ5:  2 SUB, 2 TRN, 1 DST, 1 AC, 1 FIG

    That is with creating a “Karelia Stack”.  You could shift some of thsoe units to Eastern if you like.

    Here is the Russian forces you face in R2:
    West Russia Stack:  6 INF, 2 ART, 1 ARM
    Caucuses:  5 INF, 1 ARM, 2 FIG
    Archangel:  1 INF
    Russia:  2 ARM

    That is almost DEAD even, INF for INF, ARM for ARM in central Europe.  But Germany will ONLY have 3 replacement units to send east on G2.  Russia has 8 from R1, 8 more coming in R2.

    And dead even is fine… IF UK were not going to drop 6 divisions backed up by 3 AF units on UK2, and if the US was not going to able to start landing 4 units plus AF in US2.

  • 2007 AAR League

    Pencil me in for game 4.  :-D

    Don’t be so stodgy, your analysis is fine based on what you would do, but you can’t predict what I’ll do, the great thing about this game is it’s unpredictability.  After round 1 who knows what the board will look like.  In any case under your scenario you’d be throwing everything at Germany (they could never withstand that no matter what they bought) meanwhile Japan will be knocking at russia’s back door.  :lol:


  • Everything except 6 INF from Russia, 4 INF and a FIG from the US, plus any assorted AF flown in , IC’s built, etc.

    And Japan can;t get that much onto the contient in a couple of rounds… they only have 1 TRN on J1…

    OK, pencilled in for a future game.  We’ll go ahead and set it with you as Axis now so you can test your German uber-navy :-)

  • 2007 AAR League

    LOL…your on.  :mrgreen: (just wanted to use this Icon, I haven’t seen hair like that since i was in high school!)


  • I think a better investment is to buy an AC for the mediteranean fleet. :-P

  • 2007 AAR League

    I’ve played a few games where i’ve purchased a 2nd carrier for the med, but haven’t ever put one there on G1.  What do you do about your baltic fleet?

  • 2007 AAR League

    I find it critical to build an AC in the Med If you are playing a KGF. Landlocked Germany is no good. The baltic fleet is cannon fodder to attack allied ships with your planes. I usually defend that as well by buying a destroyer… just to try things out.


  • I usually operate under the theory that any Navy for Germany except for the Baltic AC and a few Baltic transports is money out the window. As the Allies my second axiom is “Sink the German Navy as soon as practical.”


  • “Sink the German Navy as soon as practical.”

    Right you are!

    What´s your first axiom?


  • @xenon:

    “Sink the German Navy as soon as practical.”

    Right you are!

    What´s your first axiom?

    It’s probably take out his capital as quick as you can! :-P :-D


  • Take out the capital as soon as you can is my goal.  My axioms are things I try to keep in my mind to acheive my goal.

    1st Axiom  “When in doubt as to what to buy, buy INF.”

    2nd Axiom “Sink any naval units you can as soon as practical and that is still to slow.”

    3rd Axiom “See that your naval units don’t meet Davy Jones alone.”

    4th Axiom “All other axioms are useless if you don’t defend your capital.”

    5th Axiom "Stay on target. Pick a goal and stick to it.

    6th Axiom “Be more concerned with the sure paths to defeat than the uncertain paths to victory.”

    D. Fox might wish to take No 4 to heart.  :evil:

    I would be curious to hear any axioms that any one else has. I would also be curious to any thoughts on my axioms.

  • 2007 AAR League

    My axioms are:

    1st Axiom  Don’t do something stupid.

    2nd Axiom If you did something stupid, don’t do it again.

    3rd Axiom If you’re still doing the same stupid thing…STOP!!!

    4th Axiom If you can’t stop doing the same stupid thing, lock your game up in the closet.

    :roll:


  • When you are pulling all of your forces out of your capital to move them somewhere, and you are ABSOLUTELY SURE that no enemy units can reach…  and you have triple checked and NOTHING can reach…

    Leave a couple of INF behind… just in case you missed something :-)

    (I lost a game of Classic that way once…)


  • jsp4563 that is an excellent set and I will be adopting number one as one of my own axioms. Perhaps this should have its own thread?


  • @jsp4563:

    My axioms are:

    1st Axiom  Don’t do something stupid.

    2nd Axiom If you did something stupid, don’t do it again.

    3rd Axiom If you’re still doing the same stupid thing…STOP!!!

    4th Axiom If you can’t stop doing the same stupid thing, lock your game up in the closet.

    :roll:

    I’ll admit to the first one for sure.  Although, my mistake was more… an oversight than anything.  :-P Which, of course, cost me the capital in the second round, from whcih I was never never never able to recover fully. :-o

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