2015 League General Discussion Thread

  • '12

    @Gamerman01:

    :-) I’m in agreement with the others, and would add that in all my experience, few games are actually decided by the dice.  And you win some, you lose some (by the dice)

    But since you bring it up, I think I’m going to get my opponents to agree to no convoy dice rolls, but do the Alpha2 method.  Getting shafted on both my convoy rolls that miss and my opponent’s rolls that rip me, is really annoying.

    nooooooooooooooooo dont do it gamer!


  • ? It’s not LL, it’s just going back to Alpha2 method for convoy damage, which was the standard for G40 for quite some time.  There are enough dice rolling in this game without adding huge fluctuations for convoy rolls.

    It’s an annoyance that reduces my enjoyment of the game, so I’m going to remove it.


  • Would you tell me what Alpha2 suggested? I missed that.


  • Before Alpha3 (which is nearly identical to 2nd edition), there were no dice rolls to determine convoy damage.

    It was simply 1 IPC for each destroyer, cruiser, and battleship, and 2 IPC’s for each submarine and each fighter or tac that was on a carrier.

    So basically 1 IPC for each die that is rolled now.  The average dice damage is 1 IPC per die rolled, but could be as high as 3 per die, which is TRIPLE, which is excessive IMO.


  • If I want more dice rolled in my game, I’ll play with tech, tyvm  :-D


  • NO ckange from 1st Edition then. That was fine by me too.
    Bombers and Subs are too cheap and powerful.


  • i totally feel your pain…this is like back earlier this year when i felt the aa/interceptor dice were totally picking on me…it was seriously bad, my opponents were bombing the crap out of me at every turn and then sure enough, i’d go in for my own sbr revenge and come out of it with like 3 fewer bombers…that terrible phase eventually passed away (may it rest in hell), and i’m back to having happy luck with aa guns and interceptors  :-)

    i too feel my convoy luck is generally not as good as my opponents. but nonetheless, on this one i do like the rules as they are

    @Gamerman01:

    ? It’s not LL, it’s just going back to Alpha2 method for convoy damage, which was the standard for G40 for quite some time.  There are enough dice rolling in this game without adding huge fluctuations for convoy rolls.

    It’s an annoyance that reduces my enjoyment of the game, so I’m going to remove it.


  • Yeah, that’s what I’m talking about, and I remember your woes!

    With convoy rules, I at least have precedent for different rules (no dice) from the makers that I can fall back on  :mrgreen:

  • '22 '16

    Is it normal for Triple A to do this:  Lost Moscow, Russia took it back on their turn I made 38IPC.  Obviously I edited it to 0.  Just making sure I am not missing anything.  Thanks.


  • You would collect income on the same turn that Russia took Moscow back, in the collect income phase.  Is Russia’s income 38? 
    Or is it raiding an Axis power’s treasury?

  • '22 '16

    Germany took Russia and then on Russia’s turn they took Moscow back. And triple A gave me 38 IPC’s.  I thought you had to own your capital at the beginning of your turn in order to make/collect income?

  • '12

    @majikforce:

    Germany took Russia and then on Russia’s turn they took Moscow back. And triple A gave me 38 IPC’s.  I thought you had to own your capital at the beginning of your turn in order to make/collect income?

    No you must own your capital at the start of your turn in order to produce units at factories you owned at the start of your turn.  Income is based on what you own at the end of your turn regardless of what you owned at the start of the turn.

  • '22 '16

    Thanks. Dusted off the old rule books and realized I’ve been playing that wrong for quite a while.  I will never master this game.  A big DOH on me! :-D


  • Will be a lot more problematic for your Allies to liberate France now  :wink:

  • '15

    has the bid placement rule changed or am I confusing with a different version?  seems like you used to be able to place ground units in any territory you owned (whether occupied or not) only sea units were required to be placed with previously existing units.


  • @rgp44:

    has the bid placement rule changed or am I confusing with a different version?  seems like you used to be able to place ground units in any territory you owned (whether occupied or not) only sea units were required to be placed with previously existing units.

    It has changed, but if you ask your opponent if you could have a french bomber in Madagscar, then I don’t see why you shouldn’t be able to get it. This is just an example. By default you can’t get any units anymore in say New Guinea, but if your opponent allows it, then it is allowed. The rules are just there for clarity.


  • @Soulblighter:

    @rgp44:

    has the bid placement rule changed or am I confusing with a different version?  seems like you used to be able to place ground units in any territory you owned (whether occupied or not) only sea units were required to be placed with previously existing units.

    It has changed, but if you ask your opponent if you could have a french bomber in Madagscar, then I don’t see why you shouldn’t be able to get it. This is just an example. By default you can’t get any units anymore in say New Guinea, but if your opponent allows it, then it is allowed. The rules are just there for clarity.

    Right Gamer?


  • Yes, the default league rule changed from last year, but as long as your opponent agrees you can place you infantry in New Guinea or things like that.  If you don’t agree, the league rules are there to help you agree.

  • '19 '17

    Rules question:

    1. Can unprotected transports stay in a sea zone with an enemy sub during the combat phase of the nation that owns the transports?

    2. Would the presence of ships in the sea zone with the enemy sub allied to the transports change the answer to question 1?

    Link to game if unclear: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35602.240


  • @Adam514:

    Rules question:

    1. Can unprotected transports stay in a sea zone with an enemy sub during the combat phase of the nation that owns the transports?

    2. Would the presence of ships in the sea zone with the enemy sub allied to the transports change the answer to question 1?

    Link to game if unclear: http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=35602.240

    subs do not make a sea zone hostile, which therefore means the zone is still friendly

    From the Europe rulebook, pg. 8:

    sea Zones
    Sea zones are either friendly or hostile. Friendly sea zones contain no surface warships (this doesn’t include submarines and transports) belonging to a power with which you are at war. Hostile sea zones contain surface warships belonging to a power with which you are at war. (The presence of a surface warship
    belonging to an enemy power with which you are not yet at war doesn’t make a sea
    zone hostile.)
    Note: The Caspian Sea (surrounded by Caucasus, Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Eastern Persia, Persia, and Northwest Persia) is considered to be a sea zone, even though it does not have a number.

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