2015 League General Discussion Thread

[gamerman01]

Right - that is the league default rule

I recommend checking up front with your opponent if you’re not familiar with them
Make arrangements with your opponent for late edits in advance, or use the old “So you want to be a Millionaire” technique - say “final answer.”  There are lots of possible solutions - just beware that you cannot assume that you can post moves and then change them later, even if it’s 1 minute later.  Technically requires consent of your opponent.

But if you don’t make any arrangements, you post a move, and you later want to make changes, if your opponent wants to be a stickler the moderators will side with your stickler opponent because those are the default league rules.  The line has to be drawn somewhere so that it’s definitive.  :-)

[Karl7]

Here is another question:

If USA attacks sz 6 by air only because of a blocking dd, and USA fails to clear 6 but the only defending units left are scrambles Japan air units, can the USA move into 6 on its ncm, assuming that the scrambled air units are not in control of the sz because they had to land back in Japan?

[Karl7]

so basically do I need to keep a surface warship in 6 to keep it hostile after an all out air strike by the USA?

[Zhukov44]

@Karl7:

so basically do I need to keep a surface warship in 6 to keep it hostile after an all out air strike by the USA?

Yes I think so.  From what I understand, the scrambled fighers are back in Japan at the end of the combat move.

[Karl7]

@Zhukov44:

@Karl7:

so basically do I need to keep a surface warship in 6 to keep it hostile after an all out air strike by the USA?

Yes I think so.  From what I understand, the scrambled fighers are back in Japan at the end of the combat move.

Yes, I agree. I looked at the rule book (shocking, I know!) and it says that scrambled aircraft return to base before the moving player starts his NCM.  So if there are no ships, there is not hostile sea zone and the USA can move into 6 if there are no defending ships.

Does tripple a reflect this?  I seem to recall that “cleaning up air battles” happens after the ncm move is over, but I could be wrong.

[gamerman01]

Yes you can move into the sea zone if there are no surface enemy ships remaining.
I think Triple A will let you do that with no problem, yes

[bmnielsen]

Should the ruling about MrCunego’s games be made an official part of the rules? Seems like it would be a logical addition.

So extend section 7 with something like “All games are included in the league year in which they are reported, unless the game is decided by default (see sections 5d, 5e), in which case the game is included in the league year in which the losing player made their last turn post (or partial turn post).”

[gamerman01]

I don’t think so…. isolated incident - I appreciate the suggestion - considered it, but felt it presents other problems

[Karl7]

Ok, just so I am clear, for an Axis win, they need to hold 8/6 VCs for an entire round from when the condition is achieved.  So G10 to G11, or It10 to It11 and if the allies manage to capture one VC in the interm and then even lose it back to the Axis, the victory condition is reset.

And tripple A has this wrong.

Thanks

[Soulblighter]

@Karl7:

Ok, just so I am clear, for an Axis win, they need to hold 8/6 VCs for an entire round from when the condition is achieved.  So G10 to G11, or It10 to It11 and if the allies manage to capture one VC in the interm and then even lose it back to the Axis, the victory condition is reset.

And tripple A has this wrong.

Thanks

I am not sure, but I think it depends on when the axis take the vc back. For example. If and when the axis grab the 6th vc on J10 and the axis loses a vc on I10 and grab a 6th vc back during the G11 turn, then its still a win for the axis. However if it is Japan that needs to grab the vc back, then you are right. Basically the vc win condition checks if you have the required amount of vc to win the game and checks if you still have it when it is your next turn with that country. Might be wrong, but I think this is the way it is.

[gamerman01]

Please see my answer in the FAQ thread

When the Axis have met victory conditions, to win, they must maintain that number of cities or more in that theater AT ALL TIMES for a complete round of play

[Karl7]

@Gamerman01:

Please see my answer in the FAQ thread

When the Axis have met victory conditions, to win, they must maintain that number of cities or more in that theater AT ALL TIMES for a complete round of play

ts

can you post a link to you response?

the ambiguity is if is the allies snatch a VC back if only for a turn during a round. Example: Ger gets 8 on its turn, USA takes 1 back, Italy gets it back – my understanding (now) is that this resets the Victory condition.  So The Axis would have to hold the 8 VCs until Italy’s next turn.

That is correct, right?

The rule book actually I think is too clear on that and could use an example to illustrate that.

[Karl7]

@Gamerman01:

Please see my answer in the FAQ thread

When the Axis have met victory conditions, to win, they must maintain that number of cities or more in that theater AT ALL TIMES for a complete round of play

Right but a complete round of play from what?  The beginning of the round, or the turn in the round that the 8 or 6 were taken?

[Karl7]

@Karl7:

@Gamerman01:

Please see my answer in the FAQ thread

When the Axis have met victory conditions, to win, they must maintain that number of cities or more in that theater AT ALL TIMES for a complete round of play

Right but a complete round of play from what?  The beginning of the round, or the turn in the round that the 8 or 6 were taken?

This very frustrating:

So, the rule is this:

The axis must hold 8 or 6, VCs depending on the theater, from the time an Axis power takes the final requisite VC and first meets the condition until that power moves again for the Axis to win without losing any of the necessary VCs between that time.

Right?

[axis-dominion]

Yes

@Karl7:

@Karl7:

@Gamerman01:

Please see my answer in the FAQ thread

When the Axis have met victory conditions, to win, they must maintain that number of cities or more in that theater AT ALL TIMES for a complete round of play

Right but a complete round of play from what?  The beginning of the round, or the turn in the round that the 8 or 6 were taken?

This very frustrating:

So, the rule is this:

The axis must hold 8 or 6, VCs depending on the theater, from the time an Axis power takes the final requisite VC and first meets the condition until that power moves again for the Axis to win without losing any of the necessary VCs between that time.

Right?

[gamerman01]

I didn’t mean an old response to the FAQ thread.  I responded to your question today in the FAQ thread, and I was directing you to go see that.

[Karl7]

@Gamerman01:

I didn’t mean an old response to the FAQ thread.  I responded to your question today in the FAQ thread, and I was directing you to go see that.

AH, good.  THanks!

[legion386]

Can someone clarify the league rule for bidding placement for me?  The rules clearly state that bids can only be placed in a territory or SZ that already has a unit from that power.  However, I see several league games that start with an ANZAC infantry in New Guinea.  What gives?

[gamerman01]

It is not a league rule, it is a default.

That way, if players don’t agree, there is a standard.  Also, players don’t have to specify the guidelines they want to play by every time, because there is a default.

Upon mutual agreement, players can play pretty much however they want - whatever house rules they want, for example.

[Soulblighter]

@Gamerman01:

It is not a league rule, it is a default.

That way, if players don’t agree, there is a standard.  Also, players don’t have to specify the guidelines they want to play by every time, because there is a default.

Upon mutual agreement, players can play pretty much however they want - whatever house rules they want, for example.

So if I want a game where each nation doesn’t have its own capital, but starts elsewhere. That is possible? :P