2015 League General Discussion Thread

[gamerman01]

Ah, right, of course.

[Jennifer]

So when are you going to school me in new battle strategy in this game, Gamer?  Eh?

[gamerman01]

Well, I’m embroiled in 4 conflicts right now and my opponents can tell you I haven’t moved in several days….
I recommend you check out a couple of my games and learn from others’ pain  :-D

At some point I’m going to move whole hog into my house-ruled game and leave this one behind me…  :-o

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

Well, I’m embroiled in 4 conflicts right now and my opponents can tell you I haven’t moved in several days….
I recommend you check out a couple of my games and learn from others’ pain  :-D

At some point I’m going to move whole hog into my house-ruled game and leave this one behind me…  :-o

Hahahahahah

[Jennifer]

See, everyone’s afraid to play the girl. lol

[axis-dominion]

perfect example of my aa/interceptor curse….so far in my game with artofwar, i’m 1/23 on hitting his air attacks or something very close to that, and he was hitting something like 50%, and this one turn i went in with 4 bombers on 4 separate raids, and he nailed 3 of them!!!

like seriously wtf can i do about this??

[axis-dominion]

this is very hard to do, because i really love this game, but considering how bad my aa luck has been, i’m letting all my opponents know here that i will be taking a month break from the game. i can’t continue like this. i know it’s my negative thoughts influencing it, as i actually played out (“rehearsed”) those 4 bombing raids THREE times just for fun to see how they’d go if i didn’t feel any pressure to succeed, and sure enough ALL three times i got away without a single lost bomber. but then when i played the turn for real, BAM! 3 out of 4 bombers destroyed.

i think a break is the only way to shake this off…gamer, is it within the league rules for me to take a break without conceding any games?

[axis-dominion]

i’m not having any particularly bad luck in regular battles, neither small or large. i do sometimes feel my convoys are not as successful as they should be, but it’s nothing that really stands out. but man oh man the aa/interceptor curse is really bad…it just strikes me as totally not normal.

[boldfresh]

@axis-dominion:

i’m not having any particularly bad luck in regular battles, neither small or large. i do sometimes feel my convoys are not as successful as they should be, but it’s nothing that really stands out. but man oh man the aa/interceptor curse is really bad…it just strikes me as totally not normal.

I feel your pain axis.  That’s coming from a guy that almost never rolls up and almost always rolls down.  :-o

[gamerman01]

@axis-dominion:

i think a break is the only way to shake this off…gamer, is it within the league rules for me to take a break without conceding any games?

Rule 5e mentions a “predetermined vacation”

For sure, if your opponents agree to it, you can take a break.  You need to get them to agree in writing in your game thread if you want assurance.  If an opponent does not agree to give you a vacation, let us know and we’ll go from there.

[axis-dominion]

@Gamerman01:

@axis-dominion:

i think a break is the only way to shake this off…gamer, is it within the league rules for me to take a break without conceding any games?

Rule 5e mentions a “predetermined vacation”

For sure, if your opponents agree to it, you can take a break.  You need to get them to agree in writing in your game thread if you want assurance.  If an opponent does not agree to give you a vacation, let us know and we’ll go from there.

OK great, I posted to each game thread as you advised, with the exception of two of my games. I will just continue playing out my game with Soulblighter, since it’s been going at a super snail’s pace anyway and I have an overwhelming advantage to the point where bad aa/interceptor luck wouldn’t matter LOL, and I need to claim a win in my game with sethenewb as he hasn’t shown in weeks and without any notice whatsoever.

Just not sure what to do about my playoff game with Roboto? We’re due to start soon.

[gamerman01]

Ask Roboto if he’ll agree to some kind of low luck AA.  Not sure how the Triple A low luck AA works, but I think you should play a version of low luck like where if you send out 4 different bombers on 4 different missions, you can’t get hit more than once.

[gamerman01]

So no, please don’t delay the playoff game.  Otherwise, I recommend playing weaker players to build your confidence, and so that even if you get very poor dice you can still win.

[axis-dominion]

@Gamerman01:

Ask Roboto if he’ll agree to some kind of low luck AA.� Not sure how the Triple A low luck AA works, but I think you should play a version of low luck like where if you send out 4 different bombers on 4 different missions, you can’t get hit more than once.

ohh that’s a great idea. i’ll see what he thinks!

[gamerman01]

Awesome, glad I could help.  That’s what I’m here for

[DizzKneeLand33]

@axis-dominion:

perfect example of my aa/interceptor curse….so far in my game with artofwar, i’m 1/23 on hitting his air attacks or something very close to that, and he was hitting something like 50%, and this one turn i went in with 4 bombers on 4 separate raids, and he nailed 3 of them!!!

like seriously wtf can i do about this??

I’m going to insert just a small amount of reality into this discussion, because sometimes when we start to feel emotionally that the dice are completely against us, we don’t see rational results.

You have already stated that your other battles go just fine, no complaints.  Do you think that maybe those are going a bit better than average, and the interceptor thing is just balancing it out?  Just thought I’d throw it out there.

Okay, so the odds of a bomber getting shot down by an aa, by number of bombers.  You said you sent 4, and 3 were shot down.

Bombers Shot Down = 0: 5/65/65/65/61(combination) = 625/1296 = 48.2%
Bombers Shot Down = 1: 1/65/65/65/64(combination) = 500/1296 = 38.6%
Bombers Shot Down = 2: 1/61/65/65/66(combination) = 150/1296 = 11.6%
Bombers Shot Down = 3: 1/61/61/65/64(combination) = 20/1296 = 1.5% (it’s actually 1.54%)
Bombers Shot Down = 4: 1/61/61/61/61(combination) = 1/1296 = 0.1% (it’s actually .07%)

So, you are going to walk away from the game for receiving a 1.63% result (3 or 4 bombers out of 4 getting shot down)?  I know stuff happens, axis-dominion, but you are a much better player than that.  Just sayin’.  :)

I mean, it’s not even a 1/100 result…. it was better than that.  And, in average with your other results in real battles (those dice count too, right?), I bet your dice are… well… pretty much like everyone else’s in aggregate.  Sure, we all go through bad streaks and good streaks, but you have to focus on the big picture – I know that’s hard when you are in the midst of really sucky dice, but that’s why I’m typing this message at all – tough love.  :-D

[DizzKneeLand33]

And, it would help if I could add… 1.54 + .07 = 1.61% result, but of course we can’t edit on this board…  :mrgreen:

[gamerman01]

Yeah, there’s truth in that, Dizz, but it’s really tough with AA dice because it’s such a huge swing.  When you get a bottom 1.5% on something with such a huge swing (3 factories got 0 damage, and 3 bomber threats are erased), it’s killer.

I do agree that there are a lot of A&A players who feel like victims because of self-bias - I have as much bias as anyone towards myself, and appreciate your thoughtful post that is just attempting to help shed a different perspective for a good player who is frustrated.

[axis-dominion]

Dizz, I too appreciate your thoughtful post. But I’m with Gammer on this, the aa/interceptor rolls happen to be very important in a tough match, and when you start to consistently roll below average on these types of battles, and when it only gets worse with each game, it’s very hard to not get emotional and start making bad decisions. That one example I cited was but one of many such instances in my current and recent games. I have examples in my current games where I’ve gone 0/9 or 0/11 in one interceptor + aa battle! So it’s not even that my bombers are getting downed, but my aa and interceptors have been missing big time. It’s double the psychological effect on me. In that same game against art, furthermore, I’ve only had one aa hit out of something like 22 or 23 rolls (this includes aa missing in battles, not just raids)…if that’s not really bad I don’t know what is!

I’m not wanting to take a break because of one bad battle or turn, or even one bad game. This aa “curse” has been building up and therefore I feel it’s a kind of signal that I probably should take a break for some time and shake it off. Maybe I need to spend more time in other areas of my life that have been neglected due to gaming  :-)

@Gamerman01:

Yeah, there’s truth in that, Dizz, but it’s really tough with AA dice because it’s such a huge swing.  When you get a bottom 1.5% on something with such a huge swing (3 factories got 0 damage, and 3 bomber threats are erased), it’s killer.

I do agree that there are a lot of A&A players who feel like victims because of self-bias - I have as much bias as anyone towards myself, and appreciate your thoughtful post that is just attempting to help shed a different perspective for a good player who is frustrated.

[Jennifer]

Dizz,

Stop trying to erase their pain with cold hard statistics!  I’ve seen more friendships lost over statistics than anything else! lol  No seriously, I was an Applied Mathematics student and everytime I’ve tried to say “my navy isn’t unbeatable, you just scored in the bottom 30 percentile” a couple, specific, players would storm off for two months!

Just empathize, feel their pain, and commiserate!  Then, when it is your turn, you can grab them by the, ere, NOSE (dirty minds, the lot of you!) and kick them in the shins when they complain about dice in your game. =^_^=

(Seriously though, it sux so BAD when you consistently and repeatedly get your bombers return to you in pieces by the AAA dicey!  It’s so bad I rarely run SBR if TripleA is going to roll the AA Guns!  I think there was a version of TripleA out there at one point that I calculated a 93% or better chance of AA hitting your bomber if you did SBR…back in Classic of course!  Maybe it was lower, feels like WAY higher though!)