A lot of posters seemed stunned at this scenario, never scene it ever happen or even could happen. Now that I mulled it over last night and looked at the rules and so forth it is very obvious to me why no one has ever scene this scenario. Because the scenario makes no logical sense.
Italy DOW on Russia and moves in 2 tanks into Eastern Poland.
Russia is now at war with Italy and can DOW on Germany at the start of their next turn, turn 3.
Germany on Turn 3 does not DOW on Russia and just non combats into Eastern Poland.
Russia at the start of Turn 3 DOW on Germany and off we go.There is no logical reason why Russia would not DOW on Germany at the start of Turn 3, none.
Heck you could argue that it makes no logical sense that Germany did not DOW on Russia at the start of G3 since Italy brought Russia into the war and Russia WILL DOW on Germany on R3.
Hi PainState,
From my perspective, if I was planning on doing a G3 Barbarossa AND I wanted to drive towards the south, then yes, it makes sense to not DOW. My stack will be together except for the minimum required mobile units and maybe 1 AAA in Poland so Russia doesn’t attack Poland to get their NO for occupying an Axis territory. But E. Poland will be real strong because the German air will be there and maybe bombers will also be in range of a raid on the Moscow factory. Also, 5 IPCs is more income than I’d probably get as Germany on the 1st turn.
There are a few disadvantages of course. 1, Russian blockers can’t be attacked. 2, the Scandinavian units are behind. But for me that’s ok, I just use them to lay siege anyways. I never expect to get Moscow on turn 6 anymore. I assume that the UK/Anzac and that lone French fighter are going to get to Moscow.Â
Rules question - activating and moving through friendly neutrals
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This question popped up in a friendly forum game. My understanding is that a power at war can’t activate a friendly neutral and move through it to another territory on the same turn. Take USSR for instance. It is at war in Europe and decides to move a tank and a mech into Northern Persia from Caucasus to activate the friendly neutral and then continues moving to Persia. Is this an illegal move? Pleased to hear.
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That is right. You have to stop to convert the Friendly one. Is friendly, not Allied (yet).
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Thank you Wittmann on that.
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The rules regarding neutrals can be a bit odd at times. In some ways, it seems like a strict or non-friendly neutral provides you with more options than a friendly neutral.
For example: Russia has tanks in the Caucasus. They can not blitz through NW Persia to attack Iraq because they can’t enter NW Persia until their non-combat move and then they have to stay there.
However, say Germany has captured the Caucasus and has tanks and mechs there. Since to Germany NW Persia is a non-friendly neutral, Germany CAN blitz NW Persia to attack Persia.
What’s more, say Germany left one mech in the Caucasus. On the non-combat move of the same turn where they blitzed NW Persia they can have that mech move through NW Persia and activate Iraq.
So while it takes an Ally at least 2 turns to activate friendly NW Persia and then attack unfriendly Iraq, it takes an Axis just 1 turn to attack 2 unfriendly neutrals and activate a friendly neutral. -
Great point knp.
This rule doesn’t make a whole lot of sense to me. If the country is friendly, you’d think you’d be able to move through it. Intuitively I would think it would be more challenging to move through a hostile country than a friendly one.
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Politicians need more time than soldiers. The friendly neutral is expecting a formal delegation to pay a visit, not someone in a tank dashing by and waving “Hi! You’re with us now!”
But I agree that in the game, it’s a bit odd.
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@Herr:
Politicians need more time than soldiers. The friendly neutral is expecting a formal delegation to pay a visit, not someone in a tank dashing by and waving “Hi! You’re with us now!”
But I agree that in the game, it’s a bit odd.
Yeah that’s basically it!
Allies stop and wave and Axis, well they…march. :-)Fun aside, I agree with you, it is a bit odd.
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