14L G40 Bold v Ghost - game 3

[boldfresh]

Yeah.  That was totally crazy  :-P

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians

Non Combat Move - Italians
            2 artilleries moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Romania
            2 aaGuns moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod

Place Units - Italians
            1 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry, 1 submarine and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Non Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs total

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 7

Combat Move - French
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 75 Sea Zone

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 fighter, 9 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 artilleries moved from France to Holland Belgium
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 113 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            10 artilleries and 26 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            3 infantry moved from Baltic States to Belarus
            8 armour and 9 mech_infantrys moved from Bessarabia to Belarus

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Holland Belgium from British with 2 artilleries and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Belarus
                Germans attack with 8 armour, 10 artilleries, 29 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys
                Russians defend with 1 airfield and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Belarus from Russians with 8 armour, 10 artilleries, 29 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win, taking 125 Sea Zone from British with 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Ukraine
                Germans attack with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 infantry
                retreated to Ukraine
                Russians win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            1 armour moved from France to Germany
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia
            3 aaGuns moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Vyborg to Novgorod
            2 carriers and 3 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 113 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 125 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            7 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Southern Italy
            2 mech_infantrys moved from France to Northern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            1 fighter, 6 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 2 artilleries and 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Archangel to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Bessarabia

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                retreated to Eastern Poland
                Germans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Ukraine
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            4 aaGuns, 5 armour, 10 artilleries and 46 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            4 infantry moved from Archangel to Smolensk
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Smolensk
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Archangel
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Smolensk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            1 aaGun and 9 infantry moved from Hopei to Chahar
            2 armour moved from Russia to Novosibirsk
            1 armour and 2 artilleries moved from Russia to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total

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TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 4 destroyers and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 1 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
                  Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Siberia
                  Japanese take Siberia from Russians
            2 fighters moved from 19 Sea Zone to Anhwe
            2 bombers moved from Japan to Anhwe
            2 infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 artillery moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
                  Japanese take New Guinea from ANZAC

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Anhwe
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 bombers and 2 fighters moved from Anhwe to Kwangsi
            1 artillery moved from French Indo China to Kwangsi
            1 destroyer moved from 19 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            3 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            8 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            8 infantry and 4 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            8 infantry moved from 19 Sea Zone to Shantung
            1 infantry moved from Manchuria to Amur
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 19 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Dutch New Guinea to 45 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 transports moved from 45 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            3 tactical_bombers moved from India to Kwangsi
            3 mech_infantrys moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 cruiser moved from 45 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            2 destroyers placed in 36 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone
            8 infantry placed in Japan
            3 infantry placed in India
            1 infantry placed in French Indo China

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 42 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,2
            Japanese collect 57 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 57 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 carrier, 4 fighters, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Jehol
            3 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 16 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 16 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            6 carriers and 1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            6 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 26 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 submarine
                Americans win with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
            Battle in 16 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 5 fighters
                Japanese defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with 5 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Jehol
                Americans attack with 1 fighter
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Americans: 1 fighter
            Battle in New Guinea
                Americans attack with 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Americans win, taking New Guinea from Japanese with 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            2 carriers moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Eastern United States to Gibraltar
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 90 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            5 fighters moved from 16 Sea Zone to Midway
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Midway
            2 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands

Place Units - Americans
            1 mech_infantry placed in Western United States
            4 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Western United States
            1 carrier placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
                  Chinese take Kiangsi from Japanese
            3 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
            2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Burma

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Anhwe
                Chinese attack with 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 infantry
                Chinese win, taking Anhwe from Japanese with 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Burma
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 3 mech_infantrys
                Chinese win, taking Burma from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 mech_infantrys

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Szechwan

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Szechwan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 14 PUs; end with 16 PUs total

[boldfresh]

are you serious?  burma too?  this is hilarious.

[boldfresh]

hang on i think you made a common mistake with american in z26 let me check.  you can’t attack the sub unless you keep everything else there - you can’t move out of z26 in combat move unless you are attacking something.

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 airfield, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to West India
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to 71 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 cruiser, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 71 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India

Combat - British
            Battle in West India
                British attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking West India from Japanese with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Holland Belgium
                British attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 artilleries
                British win, taking Holland Belgium from Germans with 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 2 artilleries

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from Holland Belgium to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 92 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Holland Belgium
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Libya to Alexandria
            3 infantry moved from Persia to Eastern Persia
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Iraq to Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Iraq
            2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt

Place Units - British
            1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
            1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in United Kingdom
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 40 PUs total

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

[boldfresh]

yes, what you did cannot be done.  you can’t move the subs and destroyers from 26 to 46 if you are also attacking the sub in 26.  the reason is, z26 is not a hostile sea zone and therefore you cannot move ships out of it in the combat move unless they are attacking.  this is true of the cruiser and battleship which are bombarding.  it is not true of the subs and destroyer though.

[boldfresh]

in other words - if you attack the sub in 26 then all the units in that zone are part of the attack and cannot therefor move in noncombat.  you can’t move out of z26 in combat move unless those units are attacking something.

[boldfresh]

same is true of the acc’s.  i’ll let you change this however you want, including not making the attack of ng if you wish.  if you want to make the NG attack, then you can leave the sub in z26 alive.

[Ghostglider]

I will cancel the NGU attack then and keep my navy in z26.
New map included

Sorry about the mistake.

[boldfresh]

it’s good that you are getting this chance to understand this rule clearly before the playoffs begin - would not be nice to be surprised by this one at that point.  i’d say most tier 1 players know about this fact.  it stems from the fact that a sub does not make a zone “hostile” and the only way you can move out of a nonhostile zone in combat move is if those units are actually attacking.  i guess you could have moved all the boats into z46 if there was an AB on ng and the threat of a scramble.  but since all boats except for the bombarding boats are not involved in combat or possible combat, they cannot move until noncom.  therefore, they are involved in the attack of the sub in z26 and cannot move in noncom.

[boldfresh]

@Ghostglider:

I will cancel the NGU attack then and keep my navy in z26.
New map included

Sorry about the mistake.

no problem at all.

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Western Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Western Ukraine

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Western Ukraine from Russians with 1 fighter and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Belarus
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Romania to Belarus
            2 artilleries moved from Yugoslavia to Slovakia Hungary
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Yugoslavia

Place Units - Italians
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs total

[Ghostglider]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from 26 Sea Zone to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to 54 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 33 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 fighter moved from South Australia to Queensland
            1 infantry moved from Queensland to South Australia

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 transport placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 artillery placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total