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Russian Black Sea Fleet

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I’ve only seen russa build a fleet when the game was over for all purposes. Germany had fallen and Japan was about to. So he put 2 BB in the pac using a IC that Japan built. I was foolish and went after US with Japan. Suicide.
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German Baltic Fleet - Revised

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Thanks for everyone’s answers. I’ll have to try out the Aircraft Carrier option next time.

I’ll have to read yours in more detail next time I play it (which will be soon hopefully :-D), Darkman.
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Baltic Fleet Options

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@syntaxerror111:

@Col.Stauffenberg:

I move the two subs down to sea zone 7, the rest of the med navy and other sub attack the battle ship (with figs). My opponent attacked the remaing baltic with his air force. He leaves the subs alone because he can only attack it with his navy, which would put it in range of mine + all my planes in round 2. He has to choose what his air force attacks because it’s to risky to split them up. Sure this tactic delays me in Africa but it helps secure the Med and with a round 1 purchase of all men + 1 art, I can afford the delay. The us bomber has a crack at the subs but at the least I’ll keep one. Two or three subs, BB + tran is a good thing to have in the Med in round 2.

If I were your opponent in this situation I would have attacked the two lone subs with air on UK1 and the rest of the baltic fleet on UK2. You would most likely lose the Baltic fleet and both subs- if one sub survives the US Bmb gets a shot at as well.

@Zhukov44:

Fine with me. Those boats are expendable. If I get to keep the destroyer and Trans for another round, that’s just a bonus. I can get more infantry to a front, I can block, I can use to attack, uk has to make sure they build enough land forces to resist an invasion, which limits their options, like if they build boats or an Indian IC and drop their troops in Norway or Africa and leave their capitol insufficiently guarded. GER goes before uk anyway so they can build an AC round 2 if they really want to protect the fleet, but that’s something I’d never do anyway. Germany CANNOT afford any delays against Russia.

Trying to save those subs is a gamble, I’ll give you that, but the benefits of them surviving outweigh any negative I’ve encountered.
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German strategy for UK fleet

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Strat 1: 2-3 transports in Baltic and move Mediterranean fleet west. Usually only feasible if Germany received bid units in Africa, and/or USSR did not take Ukraine (the extra German fighter’s needed on the attack). Threatens invasion of London. Should not be used if Russian fighters landed in Moscow (Allied response: UK 3 fighters and transport E.Can tank, US transport 2 inf 1 art 1 tank (sacrificing US transports) Russia fighters to London resulting in strong UK defense and immediate threat to Baltic fleet.)

Baltic transports can be used to transport German infantry to Karelia as well as threaten London and reclaim Norway. If a united Allied fleet gets close, the Germans can counter with German air plus fodder German transports. However, this strat is not effective against quick Allied air.

Strat 2: Carrier in Baltic. To prevent UK 2 fighter 1 bomber destroying German fleet straightaway. Carrier gives German fighters added range, allowing German threat to London, as well as allowing German fighters stationed at West Europe and on the carrier to rotate duty when attacking Karelia, West Russia, or other points east.

Carrier protects Baltic fleet until the Baltic fleet suicides against the Allied Atlantic fleet. Carrier is much less inherently useful as attacker or defender; its use to effective extend fighter range is of limited use. A carrier is stronger against Allied air, but continued Allied buildup force the Germans to use more IPCs on navy, or lose their existing navy.

Strat 3: Carrier and transport in Baltic. Threatens London and extendes fighter range. As above, but with so many IPCs in the water, Germany’s attack on Russia is stalled.

Strat 4: Nothing in Baltic. The UK has a lot of targets on UK1: retake of Anglo-Egypt, the Baltic fleet, etc. If Germany builds NOTHING in the Baltic, the UK may either attack Anglo-Egypt with less (good for Germany), or the UK may lose lots of air on a risky attack against the Baltic fleet. Either way, the strategy here is to build infantry and tanks, to press on Russia early; if the UK lets its fighters die, that’s just less force the UK can hit the German ground with later.
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That is kind of a hybrid view of OOB and LHTR Jen, but it makes sense… FIGs loaded prior to launching of AC (or immediately after)
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Can you move (non-C) sea units to a newly captured sea zone??? Tell me here.

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you can also move units into an enemy seazone that contains only enemy submerged sub(s).
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How would you deal with this Russian Navy?

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Offhand I’d say I’d just try to knock out the Russian navy straight away with your BB + tran + 4 fighters + bomber. Clearing those Russian fighters, combined with no Russian land purchase, puts Russia in defense mode on the following turns. Of course you are giving up Africa very quickly and the UK will have an extra BB to play with in the med and stuff, which makes a German naval purchase hard to justify, but you’ve shocked the Russians out of their key units to trade territories.
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I will always buy an AC on G1
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Whose boss in the sea?

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Carriers are the major unit in a fleet
The aircraft carrier emerged after World War I as an experimentally modified cruiser. The first aircraft carrier built (1925) from the keel up as an aircraft carrier for the U.S. navy was the U.S.S. Saratoga. The aircraft carrier remained an experimental and untested war vessel until World War II, when the Japanese destroyed or drove out of the East Asian waters the British, Dutch, and U.S. navies with carrier-borne aircraft. By 1942 the aircraft carrier had replaced the battleship as the major unit in a modern fleet, and in World War II it was indispensable in naval operations against a sea- or land-based enemy.

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