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    All that has since been edited, it now reads… Minor Factories may only produce units that cost 10 IPCs or less.

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    @Young:

    All that has since been edited, it now reads… Minor Factories may only produce units that cost 10 IPCs or less.

    Sorry, I didn’t notice that the opening post was edited more recently than the one quoted.

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    @Baron:

    @Young:

    All that has since been edited, it now reads… Minor Factories may only produce units that cost 10 IPCs or less.

    Sorry, I didn’t notice that the opening post was edited more recently than the one quoted.

    No problem, the 10 IPC or less idea was provided by Kieghund.


  • Is South Africa still part of the UK then?

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    @ghr2:

    Is South Africa still part of the UK then?

    Yes, all territories with a UK roundel printed on them will contribute to the UK’s income.

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    Q: Does this include British Columbia? Or should well allow roundel replacement here?

    Second edition Pacific 1940 shows a UK roundel in British Columbia rather than a Canadian one. Sadly

    I believe this was a misprint. I suggest placing an Anzac roundel here.

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    @Black_Elk:

    Q: Does this include British Columbia? Or should well allow roundel replacement here?

    Second edition Pacific 1940 shows a UK roundel in British Columbia rather than a Canadian one. Sadly

    I believe this was a misprint. I suggest placing an Anzac roundel here.

    That’s what I did. I used ANZAC roundels on all the Canadian territories.

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    I really do like this idea and the ability to direct production should prove interesting.  The only change I would like to make to my own version is to keep Canada and ANZAC separate nations but having a shared bank.  Its a preference I would like to see Canadian roundels in the game with Canadian pieces as well.  It shouldn’t change much because ANZAC and Canada are on different sides of the board.  You could get the roundels and a UK expansion set for Canada if you chose to this instead of replacing Canada with ANZAC pieces and roundels.


  • Cyanight, I’m going that route also. Have Canadian roundels now and will paint or buy troops for Canada. Be nice to see Canadians attacking in Normandy or Europe.


  • @Black_Elk:

    Q: Does this include British Columbia? Or should well allow roundel replacement here?
    Second edition Pacific 1940 shows a UK roundel in British Columbia rather than a Canadian one. Sadly
    I believe this was a misprint. I suggest placing an Anzac roundel here.

    It is indeed a misprint, as has officially been stated here:

    http://www.wizards.com/default.asp?x=ah/faqs
    http://www.wizards.com/AvalonHill/rules/AAPacific1940_2ndEdition_FAQ.pdf

    Axis & Allies Pacific 1940, 2nd Edition, FAQ
    July 14, 2014

    Errata
    The Map: Western Canada should have a Canadian emblem. It is originally controlled by the United
    Kingdom.


  • @cyanight:

    I really do like this idea and the ability to direct production should prove interesting.  The only change I would like to make to my own version is to keep Canada and ANZAC separate nations but having a shared bank.  Its a preference I would like to see Canadian roundels in the game with Canadian pieces as well.  It shouldn’t change much because ANZAC and Canada are on different sides of the board.  You could get the roundels and a UK expansion set for Canada if you chose to this instead of replacing Canada with ANZAC pieces and roundels.

    Canadian roundels can be obtained from HBG:

    http://www.historicalboardgaming.com/Custom-Roundels–Canada_p_1378.html

    For Canadian units, I use the butternut-grey British-pattern ANZAC units from Pacific 1940 1st edition, augmented by a few ANZAC anti-aircraft artillery units from the 2nd edition (since this unit type was lacking in the 1st ed).  Under this arrangement, the butternut grey colour = the Commonwealth Dominions (except Eire, which was neutral).  The Canadian units can be extended to cover Newfoundland.  South Africa can be represented either by the Canadian or 2nd-ed ANZAC units, depending on one’s preference.

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    Thanks for that link CWO Marc, I was unaware as I’m working off my 1st edition map, I will mention in post 1. Players are encouraged to house rule what they like, especially if they want to take advantage of their custom pieces. Halifax Rules are meant to allow any player to use them oob even if they still need nickels, dimes, and quarters.


  • CWO, thanks for the reminder, I do have those British pieces from Pacific. I used to use them for Italians in my other G39 game.


  • @Young:

    I’m working off my 1st edition map

    A related point is that Canada’s West Coast underwent a jurisdictional change between the 1st ed and 2nd ed maps, with BC and Yukon Territory being fused into “Western Canada”.

    Pacific 1940 Canada Change.jpg


  • All British baige starting units on Canadian territories must now be replaced with ANZAC gray pieces <<

    Minor typo: should be “beige”.  I think “baige” would be the Australian pronunciation.  :-D

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    @CWO:

    All British baige starting units on Canadian territories must now be replaced with ANZAC gray pieces <<

    Minor typo: should be “beige”.  I think “baige” would be the Australian pronunciation.   :-D

    Thanks… I will edit.

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    @CWO:

    @Young:

    I’m working off my 1st edition map

    A related point is that Canada’s West Coast underwent a jurisdictional change between the 1st ed and 2nd ed maps, with BC and Yukon Territory being fused into “Western Canada”.

    To bad about the roundel error, kinda throws a monkey wrench into an otherwise perfect conversion.

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    It wasn’t that big a deal for me because I just used ANZAC roundels for all Commonwealth territories so I covered up both British and Canadian roundels.
    With this game, I am not a fan of having Canada as a separate power. I know that Canada contributed a lot during the real war, but in this game they are just too weak at 7 IPCs per turn. In most of our games, ANZAC never really gets to contribute very much because of their remoteness and small income. I think it would be even worse for Canada. At start they have 1 Minor IC/Minor Factory, 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 transport and 1 destroyer. They don’t even have any aircraft (unless you modify the setup) and would take 2 turns just to be able to buy 1 fighter.
    I also didn’t like weakening UK’s economy -7 but if you play with a combined UK income then that isn’t such a problem.
    Now, Italy also starts with only 10 IPCs per turn, but they are in a more centralized location and start out with a good sized military. So you can get things going pretty good with them depending on what UK does and if they get some help from big brother Germany.
    That’s why I like the Commonwealth idea. I include South Africa in it so they start with 20 IPCs and can make more of a contribution and a variety of places to assert that influence. Also, changing the starting Minor factories to Major factories helps too.

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    @knp7765:

    It wasn’t that big a deal for me because I just used ANZAC roundels for all Commonwealth territories so I covered up both British and Canadian roundels.
    With this game, I am not a fan of having Canada as a separate power. I know that Canada contributed a lot during the real war, but in this game they are just too weak at 7 IPCs per turn. In most of our games, ANZAC never really gets to contribute very much because of their remoteness and small income. I think it would be even worse for Canada. At start they have 1 Minor IC/Minor Factory, 2 infantry, 1 artillery, 1 tank, 1 transport and 1 destroyer. They don’t even have any aircraft (unless you modify the setup) and would take 2 turns just to be able to buy 1 fighter.
    I also didn’t like weakening UK’s economy -7 but if you play with a combined UK income then that isn’t such a problem.
    Now, Italy also starts with only 10 IPCs per turn, but they are in a more centralized location and start out with a good sized military. So you can get things going pretty good with them depending on what UK does and if they get some help from big brother Germany.
    That’s why I like the Commonwealth idea. I include South Africa in it so they start with 20 IPCs and can make more of a contribution and a variety of places to assert that influence. Also, changing the starting Minor factories to Major factories helps too.

    Great post KNP,

    and I agree, there will be many ways to play it… Here are a few I’ve read so far:

    1. New Commonwealth nation will include Canada, and ANZAC for a total of $17, and $38 for the UK (Halifax Rules).
    2. New Commonwealth nation will include Canada, ANZAC, and South Africa for a total of $20, and $35 for the UK.
    3. Canada is a separate nation with $7, their turn is between ANZAC, and France, double economy for the UK -$7.
    4. Canada is a separate nation with $7, their turn is between ANZAC, and France, single economy for the UK -$7.
    5. Canada and ANZAC have a combined economy, but separate pieces and roundels (move and fight separately)
    6. Canada and ANZAC have a combined economy, but separate pieces and roundels (move and fight together)

    There are pros and cons to each Commonwealth concept, and although I like the idea of the UK dropping to 35 IPCs using KNPs Commonwealth which includes South Africa, I don’t like taking away a second production facility from them. So instead of the UK having the freedom to build on 3 territories to begin the game, they will only have London and India. It’s a different side of the same coin with The Commonwealth who will have 3 major factories in which to spend only $20, I find this a waste of Allied production capabilities IMO. 2 production units for a nation spending 17 IPCs, and 3 production units for a nation spending 38 IPCs seems a lot more balanced than 3 production units for a nation spending 20 IPCs, and 2 production units for a nation spending 35 IPCs. But I love the diversity in which this Commonwealth nation is manifesting, Halifax is just a universal template for those who wish to experiment with some solid guidelines, it’s the hard core vets who will take this foundation and expand on it in creative ways.


  • YG, I think you have a good point about the UK being able to support S Af better then CAnzac (income). Plus the UK needs to protect its interest in Africa, and support Egypt/Mid East. Its a long way from London, and India has it own problems. CAnzac units (in S Af) wouldn’t be able to fight with the UK units already in other parts of Africa including navy from the Med or Gib (only defend).

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