Cow (allies +13) vs. Bold

[boldfresh]

@Cow:

My axis has improved. I got Moscow down to a science now. About to G6 Karl in my other game, I setup for G7 but he did not put fighters in range so I am going a round earlier, I could wait a round and odds would improve, cannot wait longer than that.

I usually do some middle east and africa stuff but I got diced out of that so whatever. Axis can still win really hard without fancy stuff.

sounds good.  well, you prolly got me here after the anzacs saved the indian bacon and you slaughtered by combined airforce!  :lol:

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 8

Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 6 artilleries, 2 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
            1 mech_infantry moved from Evenkiyskiy to Urals
            1 bomber moved from Novgorod to Urals
            1 mech_infantry moved from Timguska to Yenisey
                  Germans take Yenisey from Russians
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yugoslavia to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Bryansk
            2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Urals
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 1 mech_infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Greece
                Germans attack with 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Greece from British with 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 1 bomber and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 bomber and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery and 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 transports moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from Germany to 114 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 transports moved from 114 Sea Zone to 115 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Finland to 115 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from 115 Sea Zone to Novgorod
            3 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern Italy
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Western Germany to Northern Italy
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Northern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 bomber moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Urals to Novgorod
            5 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 81 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 armour, 4 artilleries, 3 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western Germany to Yugoslavia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 mech_infantry moved from Northern Italy to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 carrier and 2 transports moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            3 artilleries placed in France
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            2 infantry and 8 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany
            1 mech_infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 49 PUs; end with 49 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs

[Cow]

Only when I am playing Japan am I cool with a longer game. I feel like I can always win in the pacific. Some games the allies just go full Pacific and it is like well…. “I will just take Calcutta round 3-5 and stay in it for as long as possible, Germany will take Russia, it is going to happen.” That is why the axis are stupid over powered in G40.

For some reason you sacrificed Japan… without doing one of the two gambits. One gambit you take Siberia rounds 1-3 on round 2 you buy bombers, round 3 they fly to mid china, round 4 you bomb the Russians for Germany. Boom. Germany can take Russia as early as round 5.

The other Europe gambit, you take Calcutta, doing pacific stuff, then all of a sudden go Africa. You can screw over the allies and get a quick Europe win. This is the safer gambit, because all you really lose is positioning if you feel like Japan is not needed for Europe.

[Cow]

When I am the allies… OH GOD. Like I just see everything Japan can do… seen everything the allies can do… it is like really bad to be the allies. So I try to dice people to make it so I can win. Like wheatbear… I tried to dice him 6 times… so sad. Oh well. I think I lost that game… it is actually kind of even for some reason.

[boldfresh]

you left all the uk pac in india planning on the anzacs blocking you know.  so were you basically saying, “if i don’t get the block with the anzacs i’m screwed?”  because you would have given up india for cheap if i remember?

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 artilleries and 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            12 infantry moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            4 infantry moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kazakhstan to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Turkey to Greece
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
                  Russians take Eastern Poland from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bessarabia
                  Russians take Bessarabia from Italians
            2 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            4 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
            1 armour moved from Kansu to Yenisey
                  Russians take Timguska from Italians
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Yenisey
            1 mech_infantry moved from Syria to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Turkey to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Nenetsia
                  Russians take Nenetsia from Italians
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Smolensk

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Greece
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 2 mech_infantrys
                Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Yenisey
                Russians attack with 1 armour and 1 bomber
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Russians win, taking Yenisey from Germans with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Bryansk
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Bryansk from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Russia
            4 infantry moved from Samara to Russia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Ukraine
            1 mech_infantry moved from Samara to Rostov
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Greece to Turkey
            1 aaGun moved from Chahar to Suiyuyan
            1 aaGun moved from Buryatia to Yakut S.S.R.
            1 bomber moved from Yenisey to Suiyuyan

Place Units - Russians
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry placed in Ukraine
            5 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs

[boldfresh]

ie, you would have lost 3 ftrs, tac with anzac.  this means egypt never falls and the germans eventually do overwhelm russia.  the anzacs blocking 37 are the whole destabilizing factor in this one as i see it.

[Cow]

Yeah I lucked out. When it mattered, which is early in the game.

[Cow]

I saw an opportunity and I took it. I had 3 countries attacking it so it is not like that was totally unexpected.

[Cow]

Is this game over or you got something crazy planned?  I know you can hold Japan for 10 more rounds… no one is doubting that.

[Cow]

I mean honestly, you can win pretty much every game just by doing J1 DOW. USA has to invest in the pacific or you get big fast and then he has to invest into the pacific for the rest of the game or lose in the pacific. This means Germany has no pressure. Italy and UK do their thing. That is it. Pretty much works every time barring bad dice like losing france attack or phil attack… things happen that screw you over really hard for any game.

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 SuicideAttackTokens; 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter moved from Japan to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from India to West India
                  Japanese take West India from UK_Pacific

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in 17 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            COMMENT: japanese ftrs on german transport
            1 fighter moved from 17 Sea Zone to Japan
            4 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Japan to French Indo China
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Kwangsi to 36 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 2 battleships, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 5 infantry, 1 submarine, 3 tactical_bombers and 5 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries, 2 fighters, 5 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 39 Sea Zone to India
            2 fighters moved from India to 76 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 armour, 8 artilleries, 22 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from India to West India
            3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to India

Place Units - Japanese
            7 infantry placed in Japan
            2 artilleries placed in India

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 31 PUs

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 8 artilleries, 10 infantry and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Caroline Islands to 33 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 3 transports moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 battleship moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Spain to Southern France
                  Americans take Southern France from Italians
            1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia

Combat - Americans
            Battle in Japan
                Americans attack with 4 artilleries and 6 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 10 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -10
                Casualties for Japanese: 8 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 4 artilleries and 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 carrier moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 4 submarines moved from 33 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 22 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            5 transports moved from 91 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            5 artilleries moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            8 artilleries, 7 infantry and 8 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from British Guiana to 88 Sea Zone
            8 artilleries, 8 infantry and 8 transports moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            5 transports moved from 102 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            8 artilleries and 8 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Spain

Place Units - Americans
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Western United States
            1 artillery and 9 infantry placed in Eastern United States
            6 artilleries placed in Central United States
            3 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 75 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 80 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 90 PUs

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 9 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kwangsi
                  Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese
            1 fighter and 11 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Kansu
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai
            1 infantry placed in Sikang
            1 infantry placed in Manchuria
            1 infantry placed in Kiangsu
            1 infantry placed in Shantung
            3 infantry placed in Burma

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 27 PUs; end with 28 PUs total

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Saudi Arabia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Egypt to Saudi Arabia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
                  British take Alexandria from Italians
            1 artillery moved from Turkey to Greece
                  British take Greece from Germans

Combat - British
            Battle in Saudi Arabia
                British attack with 5 fighters, 3 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Neutral_True defend with 2 infantry
                British win, taking Saudi Arabia from Neutral_True with 5 fighters, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Neutral_True: 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Trans-Jordan to Persia
            5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Saudi Arabia to Persia
            1 mech_infantry moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 aaGun, 4 artilleries and 21 infantry moved from Eastern Persia to Persia

Place Units - British
            3 artilleries placed in Persia
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Egypt
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 38 PUs; end with 38 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 43 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

[boldfresh]

@Cow:

I mean honestly, you can win pretty much every game just by doing J1 DOW. USA has to invest in the pacific or you get big fast and then he has to invest into the pacific for the rest of the game or lose in the pacific. This means Germany has no pressure. Italy and UK do their thing. That is it. Pretty much works every time barring bad dice like losing france attack or phil attack… things happen that screw you over really hard for any game.

U didn’t win when you did j1 against me.

[Cow]

Oh we had a 1v1 like a year ago. That is a long time.

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 artillery and 5 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Bulgaria to Greece
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Southern France

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                British defend with 1 artillery
                Italians win, taking Greece from British with 1 bomber, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery
            Battle in Southern France
                Italians attack with 2 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                1 infantry owned by the Italians retreated to Northern Italy
                Americans win with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -3
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            3 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            1 aaGun moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            2 artilleries moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Northern Italy
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 2 cruisers, 1 destroyer and 2 transports moved from 76 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry placed in Southern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Northern Italy: 14 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Southern Italy: 14 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 105 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,2
            Italians collect 14 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 14 PUs total

[Cow]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.9

Game History

Round: 9

Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French