I never argued the move could prove a flop for the Raiders, I simply argued they won’t be leaving Vegas before 2030.
That’s Fair and Balanced! :wink:
Pick Your NFL QB
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Spygate is now a part of the Patriots history.
So is any chance of them ever getting back to the Super Bowl…Not sure who to take yet…should be a good matchup!
Although the Patriots lost yesterday, they will continue to advance deep into the playoffs in years to come. The organization is the best ran in the league. The team gets the best use out of the bottom of the teams roster. They could use more firepower and size at the WR position.
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It was a heartbreaking loss the other day. But that being said, the Broncos should have beat the Patriots by a lot more than points. And yes spygate is a black spot on this Franchise’s history, I completely agree with ABWorsham. Can’t wait for Patriot Football next season.
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Even though the Pats lots (and I’m not a fan by any means), they did a lot more with a lot less than any other team in the league.
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@ABWorsham:
You own a NFL team. The team is down by 5 points with 90 yards between you and a championship. There is two minutes on the clock.
If you could have any NFL QB past or present who do you pick?
As much as it pains me to say it, Joe Montana.
I’d go with an in-his-prime Elway, his scrambling ability would be important. Second choice would be Montana.
For current players I’d go with Rodgers for the same reason. Great arm and escapability.
Can’t really argue against Elway. Or any QB on this list: http://espn.go.com/nfl/superbowl/history/mvps
But if we go with guys showing up more than once, Montana is the clear choice with Starr, Bradshaw, and Brady following closest behind. The only guys I think you could consider who don’t show up on this list would be Unitas, Tarkenton, Marino.
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@ABWorsham:
You own a NFL team. The team is down by 5 points with 90 yards between you and a championship. There is two minutes on the clock.
If you could have any NFL QB past or present who do you pick?
As much as it pains me to say it, Joe Montana.
I haven’t thought about it that much, but a cursory thought on it makes me think a lot of that was having the greatest wide receiver to play the game. I’m sure Montana was good, but it’s kind of clouded because of that.
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Joe had 2 receivers, tight end, and a running back.
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Rich Gannon.
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OK. I make sure I bet on other team.
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@ABWorsham:
You own a NFL team. The team is down by 5 points with 90 yards between you and a championship. There is two minutes on the clock.
If you could have any NFL QB past or present who do you pick?
As much as it pains me to say it, Joe Montana.
I haven’t thought about it that much, but a cursory thought on it makes me think a lot of that was having the greatest wide receiver to play the game. I’m sure Montana was good, but it’s kind of clouded because of that.
Sure but Rice is also going to have benefited from Montana.
I’d be willing to give the ball to any guy on this list: http://espn.go.com/nfl/history/leaders/_/stat/tdpasses
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@SS:
Joe had 2 receivers, tight end, and a running back.
I love Joe Montana, but he had the guys you mentioned around him. Also a offensive innovator head coach and a good defense.
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Rich Gannon.
Gannon was a very talented QB, very underrated.
Not in my top 20 QB, but a top 50 QB.
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Regarding Montana, don’t forget the scenario established in the original post. There’s a reason he’s called Joe Cool. Someone like Peyton would be gripping the ball a little tighter in a situation like that, even with a stacked offense.
Have to bring up the time Montana pointed out John Candy in the stands from the huddle before the game winning drive in SB XXIII.
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Can’t go wrong with Joe Cool. I love his last years at Kansas City.
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@ABWorsham:
Can’t go wrong with Joe Cool. I love his last years at Kansas City.
I always think of that Monday night game between the Cheifs and Broncos where Montana and Elway seemed to keep one upping each other. Back and forth, back and forth. Frelling clinic by both of 'em.
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@ABWorsham:
Can’t go wrong with Joe Cool. I love his last years at Kansas City.
I always think of that Monday night game between the Cheifs and Broncos where Montana and Elway seemed to keep one upping each other. Back and forth, back and forth. Frelling clinic by both of 'em.Â
I was 14 years old and watched that game. It still ranks as one of best games I have watched. The game is replayed of NFL classic games.
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I go with Montana and I don’t think twice about it. He didn’t have all those weapons in '81 when he beat Dallas, he didn’t have all those weapons at Notre Dame and He didn’t all all those weapons in Kansas City but he still got the job done.
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I go with Montana and I don’t think twice about it. He didn’t have all those weapons in '81 when he beat Dallas, he didn’t have all those weapons at Notre Dame and He didn’t all all those weapons in Kansas City but he still got the job done.
You had to bring up the Dallas game! :x Lol
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it was fair I brought up Kansas City too
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As a Philadelphia Eagles fan and the victim of “filmed practice” gate, I hate to say this but it must be Tom Brady. After they won their SB’s both coordinators (Weis and Crennel)left and went on to ruin both Norte Dame and Cleveland symultaniously. Throw Josh McDaniels into the mix and Denver was a mess while he was there too. Bill Belichek was a pedestrian coach until he had Brady and became one of the best ever. They need to thank the stars that Brady made them good, not the other way around.
Brady makes everyone around him better. When he finally got a quality WR in Randy Moss, he broke the TD reception record. Then he broke the record for TD receptions for a TE when he got Gronk. Miami cut little Wes Welker and all Brady did was have him break the receptions record in a season.
Brady never won a SB with a running game or a solid defence. Look at this year, all they did was lose Welker, Aaron Hernandez, Gronk for most of the year, Shane Vereen, Vince Wolfork on D and they still went 12-4 with white guys named Danny Amendola and Julien Edelman (am I spelling their names right)…amazing. Heck, Edelman was a QB in college and Brady threw 100+ catches at him for over 1000 yards and 6 TD’s! Don’t forget what he turned 3’ 7" Danny Woodhead into for San Diego, a monster. This guy could make Bill Gates and Jonah Hill Pro Bowlers
Sorry guys if I am rambling and I hate the Pats but it’s hard to doubt the facts. Again, as an Eagle fan and growing up in San Francisco, It’s fun to challange niner fan and Joe almighty! Go birds!
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Brady will be on the Mt. Rushmore of QB history, no doubt.
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