14L, G40, LL, no tech Rasmustb(axis) vs. ArtofWar(allies +11)

[Rasmustb]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Tobruk
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

[Rasmustb]

Im gonna roll the battle for sz96 here on the forum because tripleA can’t do it right. So disregard any diceymails from that battle…

SZ 96: (sub, fig vs. dd)

Attacker:Rolls: 1@5; Total Hits: 11@5: (3)
Defender:Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 11@2: (1)

[Rasmustb]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Italians
            Italians takes Political Action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese
                Italians succeeds on action: Political Action Italians To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Chinese from Neutrality to War

Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
            1 bomber moved from Northern Italy to Tobruk
            1 submarine moved from 95 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Greece
            1 armour and 2 infantry moved from Albania to Greece
            1 artillery moved from Northern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 97 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            2 infantry moved from Southern Italy to 95 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 95 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 97 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Italian Somaliland to Kenya
                  Italians take Kenya from British
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Northern Italy to Yugoslavia

Combat - Italians
            Battle in 93 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer
                French defend with 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Italians
                Italians win, taking 93 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 1 destroyer remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for French: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in Yugoslavia
                Italians attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Gibraltar from British, taking Yugoslavia from Neutral_Allies with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Greece
                Italians attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
                Neutral_Allies defend with 4 infantry
                Italians win, taking Greece from Neutral_Allies with 1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Neutral_Allies: 4 infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 3 infantry
            Battle in Tobruk
                Italians attack with 1 artillery, 1 bomber and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Italians win, taking Tobruk from British with 1 artillery and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Italians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                British win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter and 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Greece to Southern Italy
            1 armour moved from Northern Italy to Slovakia Hungary
            2 aaGuns moved from Northern Italy to Southern France
            1 bomber moved from Tobruk to Southern Italy
            2 aaGuns and 3 infantry moved from Southern Italy to Northern Italy
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Kenya

Place Units - Italians
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Southern Italy: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 72 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6
            Italians collect 15 PUs; end with 15 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 20 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 25 PUs

[ArtofWar1947]

My understanding of the Triplea limitation is that if a sub hits, it forces the opponent to make a decision about what unit is lost before the rest of the battle is rolled. In the case of an attacking sub and fighter against a DD, there is no decision to make–the loss has to be taken on the DD. So in such cases, is rolling on the forum really necessary?

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from New Guinea to Dutch New Guinea
                  ANZAC take Dutch New Guinea from Dutch
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to 62 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 62 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
                  ANZAC take Java from Dutch
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to Shan State
            2 fighters moved from New Zealand to Queensland
            1 destroyer moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 aaGuns moved from New South Wales to Queensland

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 14 PUs; end with 14 PUs total

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - French

[Rasmustb]

@ArtofWar1947:

My understanding of the Triplea limitation is that if a sub hits, it forces the opponent to make a decision about what unit is lost before the rest of the battle is rolled. In the case of an attacking sub and fighter against a DD, there is no decision to make–the loss has to be taken on the DD. So in such cases, is rolling on the forum really necessary?

It was to get one roll at 5 instead of 1@2 and 1@3 now we’re playing LL…

Are you done with the french? Only asking cause they haven’t moved a single unit and you only posted their CM’s so far

cheers

[ArtofWar1947]

I thought subs were rolled separately, even in low luck. Perhaps not.

My mistake; thought I had posted the end of the French turn. Will do that now.

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Morocco to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Algeria
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to French Central Africa
            1 infantry moved from Syria to Trans-Jordan
            1 destroyer moved from 72 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 110 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - French

[ArtofWar1947]

New at this and still trying to figure out the rules and procedures. Checked the rules on LL and found no exception for subs. Would appreciate learning the steps for using the forum dice.

[Rasmustb]

Actually I haven’t read the LL rules myself. Haven’t even looked for them. I learned LL from a friend. When I was making the decision on using forum dice I was consulting this part of the rules in the rulebook (under sea battle):

“In both steps 3 and 4, submarines that fired in step 2 can’t fire again during the same combat round. If there is an enemy destroyer in the battle, submarines fire in step 3 or 4 rather than step 2.”

With this in mind I thought it ok to roll a sub and a fig as a 1@5 which I knew tripleA wouldn’t do. Too minimize the variance…

In order to use forum dice you just have to type it in like this
:?aaa 1@1 1@3 1@4?: <– this is an example for an inf a fig and a tb. You have to leave the “?” out. They are only there so I can illustrate how it is written without the dices start rolling.

[Rasmustb]

Anyways Im very interested in a good and fun game where we agree on the rules and boundaries and so on. So don’t hesitate to ask or comment if anything I do seems strange or illeagal to you.

cheers

Still assuming that France1 might not be done…

[ArtofWar1947]

French 1 is done and posted.

If there is not an enemy DD, would a sub fire first and roll separately then or not?

[Rasmustb]

ahhh sry didn’t notice your post…

Yeah with no enemy DD the subs roll separately which means that a sub and a strategic bomber wouldn’t be a guaranteed hit and could even be two hit but there’s really no way aournd that as I see it. You have a similar situation if you have airplane and ships but no DD’s on one side and subs on the other. You have to roll them separately cause the planes can’t hit the subs…

[Rasmustb]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                  Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
            2 submarines moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
            1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone

[Rasmustb]

Hi

Im taking the liberty of assuming no scramble in sz 109 or 110 because of the overwhelming odds against you. This can of course be re-done if you wish.

[Rasmustb]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 2

Research Technology - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 3 artilleries, 1 carrier and 13 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Politics - Germans
            Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
                Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

Combat Move - Germans
            1 unit repaired.
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
                  Germans take Baltic States from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
                  Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
                  Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
            2 submarines moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 infantry, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 119 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to Eire
            1 bomber moved from Holland Belgium to 109 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 artillery moved from France to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Normandy Bordeaux
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 110 Sea Zone
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Holland Belgium to 110 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                French defend with 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Germans win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from French with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Casualties for French: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Eire
                Germans attack with 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Eire from British with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 battleship
                Germans win with 1 bomber, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for British: 1 battleship

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
            3 aaGuns, 3 artilleries and 15 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
            3 armour moved from Romania to Baltic States
            1 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Poland
            5 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            2 aaGuns moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            4 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from France to Germany
            2 artilleries moved from France to Western Germany
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            1 bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 bomber, 2 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 108 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Holland Belgium to Normandy Bordeaux

Place Units - Germans
            1 carrier placed in 93 Sea Zone
            3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Germany
            6 infantry placed in Western Germany
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from Germany: 4 armour
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to Yugoslavia: 4 armour
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 45 PUs; end with 45 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 50 PUs

[ArtofWar1947]

Reasonable assumption regarding SZ 109 and 110 scramble.

[ArtofWar1947]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.8

Game History

Round: 2

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour, 1 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Novgorod to Vyborg
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland