13L Playoff UnknownSolider (Allies+13) vs JDOW (Axis)

[JDOW]

And as the previous post still had edit mode activated, this is the same but in normal mode  :oops:

[UnknownSoldier]

@JDOW:

And as the previous post still had edit mode activated, this is the same but in normal mode  :oops:

I am happy to discover a fellow player who is as bad as I am at missing little details before posting  :-D

[UnknownSoldier]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair 5 damage on 5 factory_majors; Remaining resources: 24 PUs;
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 3 :  0/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 5 :  2/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 5 :  1/1 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -13
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
            2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 21 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel
            6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia

Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total

Territory Summary for Russians :

Archangel : 1 infantry
    Russia : 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 42 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
    Tambov : 1 infantry
    Western Ukraine : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Novosibirsk : 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 factory_minor
    Smolensk : 1 infantry
    Samara : 6 infantry
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    115 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 50 / 62
    Russians : 26 / 26
    Japanese : 64 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 77
    Chinese : 4 / 6
    British : 33 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 6
    Italians : 14 / 14
    ANZAC : 10 / 15
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[UnknownSoldier]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair 5 damage on 5 factory_majors; Remaining resources: 24 PUs;
            Russians buy 8 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 fighter moved from Bryansk to Ukraine
            1 artillery moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Ukraine

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 factory_minor and 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 2 :  0/4 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 3 :  0/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Ukraine
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Ukraine, round 5 :  2/2 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Ukraine, round 5 :  1/1 hits
                    1 tactical_bomber owned by the Russians and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Ukraine
                Russians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -13
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Western Ukraine
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Western Ukraine, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Western Ukraine
                Russians win, taking Western Ukraine from Germans with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Western Ukraine to Russia
            1 fighter moved from Ukraine to Russia
            2 aaGuns, 3 armour, 2 artilleries, 21 infantry and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Volgograd to Tambov
            2 aaGuns, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Archangel
            6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia

Place Units - Russians
            8 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 26 PUs; end with 26 PUs total
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Russians from Russia: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Russians to Bryansk: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Territory Summary for Russians :

Bryansk : 1 infantry
    Archangel : 1 infantry
    Russia : 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 41 infantry and 5 mech_infantrys
    Tambov : 1 infantry
    Western Ukraine : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Novosibirsk : 2 aaGuns and 12 infantry
    Volgograd : 1 factory_minor
    Smolensk : 1 infantry
    Samara : 6 infantry
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    115 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 50 / 62
    Russians : 26 / 26
    Japanese : 64 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 77
    Chinese : 4 / 6
    British : 33 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 6
    Italians : 14 / 14
    ANZAC : 10 / 15
    French : 7 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[UnknownSoldier]

Well, I had one of my stupid moments in the Ukraine and kept pushing to kill the mech  :roll:

I did an edit to keep an infantry in Bryansk

[boldfresh]

@UnknownSoldier:

Well, I had one of my stupid moments in the Ukraine and kept pushing to kill the mech  :roll:

I did an edit to keep an infantry in Bryansk

unknown, you are getting some terrible luck bro.  :|

[JDOW]

Wow, that Ukraine battle was insane, just extremely lucky for me.

[UnknownSoldier]

@JDOW:

Wow, that Ukraine battle was insane, just extremely lucky for me.

It happens…however, I tended to try crazy things when stuff like this happens in an attempt to confuse the dice roller and make it go helter skelter  :evil:

[JDOW]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Philippines to 55 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 35 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Burma to 38 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 79 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from 79 Sea Zone to West India
            1 infantry moved from Sikang to Kazakhstan
                  Japanese take Kazakhstan from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            2 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Shensi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
                  Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Amur
                  Japanese take Amur from Russians
            5 artilleries, 3 fighters, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Burma to India
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to India
            3 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to India
            2 fighters moved from Siam to India
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to India
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to India

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 5 artilleries, 1 bomber, 7 fighters, 7 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 6 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 4 artilleries, 1 harbour, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; UK_Pacific defend with 1 factory_major
                Japanese captures 6PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
                Japanese converts factory_major into different units
                Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber, 5 fighters, 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 6 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 artilleries, 2 fighters and 6 infantry
                Casualties for British: 3 aaGuns, 4 artilleries, 5 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Shensi
                Japanese attack with 2 fighters, 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in West India
            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win, taking West India from UK_Pacific with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                Japanese win with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Russians and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Americans and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for British and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for French and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Dutch and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1: Changing Relationship for Neutral_Allies and Mongolians from Strict_Neutral to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Olgiy
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Dzavhan
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Tsagaan Olom
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Central Mongolia
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Buyant-Uhaa
            Trigger Allies Friendly With Mongolians: Setting captureUnitOnEnteringBy to Americans:French:British:ANZAC:Chinese:Russians for territoryAttatchment attached to Ulaanbaatar
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 1 activates a trigger called: Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Olgiy
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Dzavhan
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Tsagaan Olom
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Central Mongolia
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Buyant-Uhaa
            Trigger Japanese Conquer Russians Territory By Mongolia 2: Russians captures territory Ulaanbaatar

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 fighter moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 38 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 38 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 79 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            3 tactical_bombers moved from India to Kwangsi
            3 fighters moved from India to Kwangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
            1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
            1 fighter moved from India to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from India to Burma
            2 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Kweichow
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Chahar
            1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Chahar
            1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
            1 aaGun moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Chahar
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Chahar
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Anhwe
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 aaGun moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
            1 carrier moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 19 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Japan to Philippines
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to Anhwe
            1 bomber moved from India to Shan State

Place Units - Japanese
            1 infantry placed in Japan
            3 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Malaya
            1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 2 submarines
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 35 Sea Zone: 2 submarines
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from 6 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to 35 Sea Zone: 2 destroyers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 74 PUs; end with 80 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 85 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 90 PUs

[JDOW]

@UnknownSoldier:

@JDOW:

Wow, that Ukraine battle was insane, just extremely lucky for me.

It happens…however, I tended to try crazy things when stuff like this happens in an attempt to confuse the dice roller and make it go helter skelter  :evil:

Yeah, I exactly know that feeling.  :-)

TUV-wise you got some compensation as India went 18 TUV below average for me. However I acknowledge that Ukraine can have a higher strategic impact.

[UnknownSoldier]

I really think a big flaw in the game is when you can attack an entire fleet with zero chance of winning and send planes to attack a sea zone with no chance of landing.

I totally forgot about that “rule” in sz91. The loss of the transports is too much for me to overcome with Germany so close to Moscow.

I concede. Good game

[boldfresh]

good game guys.

JDOW, you may PM me your bid.  1 unit per territory, no tech.

cheers

[JDOW]

Thanks for the Game UnknownSoldier, too. I am sorry that your mental slip about the “Carrier-Rule” made the tipping point for you to resign. It really changes the Dynamic for the Allies to protect their TTs and makes a Carrier Build for the Germans more powerful.

The attack came also with its price for the Germans. 2 Planes and a Sub is a decent price-tag. But it was obv. worth to me in exchange for no heavy invasion in the west for another turn.
Without that attack I would have probably been forced to abandon the G7 attack on Moscow and play an eco-game and let the Russian reinforcements arrive. I guess in this scenario it would have been up to me to prove that the Japanese beast can either win in the Pacific or influence the Europe map in favor of the Axis.

Your opening was interesting. Usually I believe an attack in sz97 is essential in UK1. However combined with the complete wipe of the Italians in Africa this was a nice option to put heavy pressure in Europe. I must ask myself whether the counterattack in Tobruk was worth it to lose an essential part of my fleet.

I already tried to copy some parts of your strategy in my current game vs wheatbeer, lets see how this game goes, first time in my life I did not attack sz97 UK1^^

Cheers,
Tobias

[UnknownSoldier]

@JDOW:

Thanks for the Game UnknownSoldier, too. I am sorry that your mental slip about the “Carrier-Rule” made the tipping point for you to resign. It really changes the Dynamic for the Allies to protect their TTs and makes a Carrier Build for the Germans more powerful.

The attack came also with its price for the Germans. 2 Planes and a Sub is a decent price-tag. But it was obv. worth to me in exchange for no heavy invasion in the west for another turn.
Without that attack I would have probably been forced to abandon the G7 attack on Moscow and play an eco-game and let the Russian reinforcements arrive. I guess in this scenario it would have been up to me to prove that the Japanese beast can either win in the Pacific or influence the Europe map in favor of the Axis.

Your opening was interesting. Usually I believe an attack in sz97 is essential in UK1. However combined with the complete wipe of the Italians in Africa this was a nice option to put heavy pressure in Europe. I must ask myself whether the counterattack in Tobruk was worth it to lose an essential part of my fleet.

I already tried to copy some parts of your strategy in my current game vs wheatbeer, lets see how this game goes, first time in my life I did not attack sz97 UK1^^

Cheers,
Tobias

Thank you for the comments sir. They were very kind. I certainly re-learned a lesson with the attack move in 91. It is a brilliant strategy. I have tried the whole carrier buy before and have seen it done. I have just never made it work for me and now I know why  :oops:

I agree that keeping Italy weak is the key to an Allied victory. Sometimes I attack the sea zone and others I go for Africa. I have never really tried to both though.

Good luck in both of your games!

Really nice playing against you…short as it was  :-D