@AndrewAAGamer it looks like I posted twice, but they are the same.
2014 League Post Game Results Here
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I will repeat a point I’ve made multiple times before.
Even if your PPG stays the same or dips slightly after a win over a weak player, you are getting a benefit. Your PPG is becoming firmer because you have completed more games. If you subsequently lose in a competitive match, your PPG will not drop as much as it would have, if you had never recorded the previous win against a weaker player.
I am not willing to tweak the system to take away the possibility that you will drop when over-matching another player and winning, because that will have other effects, namely, creating more over-rated players.
You can already easily be over-rated. We have players who play a few games, beat a couple tier 4’s and a couple tier 3’s, and they’re at 3.5 or above and tier 1. But would probably get waxed by a tier 1 if they actually played one.
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ok going to have to ask for a call on my game. he’s been mia for a long time now.
hobo (axis) vs axisandalliesplayer (allies +12)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33739.45
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I will repeat a point I’ve made multiple times before.
Even if your PPG stays the same or dips slightly after a win over a weak player, you are getting a benefit. Your PPG is becoming firmer because you have completed more games. If you subsequently lose in a competitive match, your PPG will not drop as much as it would have, if you had never recorded the previous win against a weaker player.
I am not willing to tweak the system to take away the possibility that you will drop when over-matching another player and winning, because that will have other effects, namely, creating more over-rated players.
You can already easily be over-rated. We have players who play a few games, beat a couple tier 4’s and a couple tier 3’s, and they’re at 3.5 or above and tier 1. But would probably get waxed by a tier 1 if they actually played one.
I think it is not possible to achieve that a win does not reduce your PPG, Roboto is 3.30 but others like you are closed to 6, so there is no way to achieve that wins don´t reduce PPG.
The system works pretty good I think, may be what could be studied is your Tier not being reduced by a win (allthough your PPG moves), which might facilitate Roboto and others accepting more challenges. May be a good point with current Tier barriers is that all wins are increased by 0.5 in their value, so at least playing a Tier 4 does not mean reducing your Tier (if you win).
It would also mean a few more players reaching Tier 1, but not many, and PPG would still order them the same way. If the effect in Tier 1,s number being increased is not desired, may be only the win to be increased by 0,5 is the one vs a Tier 4.
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As always, thanks for feedback and ideas, Juan and Mr Roboto
I consider everything I hear
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I take challenges from everyone
Mr. Roboto, for the purposes of the league, the playoffs and rankings, I would suggest that you spend a bit more time evaluating who you play in the league, I only suggest this as I am now doing the same to help my PPG next season. I suggest this assuming you want to have a higher rating and make a bid for the playoffs. No system is perfect but this system seems to work out quite well.
Like you I used to welcome newcomers and help teach them “in the league”. Now I suggest we play a non-league game. Still fun, helps newbie’s, you can try out new strategies etc…and it won’t even slightly hurt your PPG……
Just my two cents
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Thanks, JWW
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Ghost (allies +13) over Arathorn (Axis)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33723.120
Still very much up for grabs, with a slight advantage for Allies, but I won’t have time to complete this in the near future.
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snake11eyes (allies +12) over arathorn (Axis)
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=33724.135
I hoped for the longest time that I would be able to stretch for a pacific win after disastrous dice decimated the European theatre consistently throughout the game. Destruction of German airforce for nothing over the course of early rounds led to disaster, and Japan couldn’t do the job though they were close at one point.
good game snake
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Wheatbeer (Axis) over Arathorn (Allies + 22)
Well played by Wheatbeer in European scenario.
I still argue this game is contested, but the economic advantage of a super Italy would probably grind this win in for the Axis. And with me not having time in the weeks ahead, wheat deserves the win.
Axis are 4-0 in the games between Arathorn and Wheat, even with very large bids.
http://www.axisandallies.org/forums/index.php?topic=34221.150
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My apologies to my worthy opponents for delays and not being able to claim their wins at the rolls of final dice, but my schedule has disabled me from quality play the next few weeks, and I don’t want to hinder you in the pursuit of wrapping up our games before the playoffs start.
I wasn’t going to make the cut for the playoffs anyway at this point unless something drastic changed, and I wouldn’t have been able to participate even if I should have qualified.
My ranking will drop to tier 2 :( and should thus create some changes among the top players.
May the best win.
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My apologies to my worthy opponents for delays and not being able to claim their wins at the rolls of final dice, but my schedule has disabled me from quality play the next few weeks, and I don’t want to hinder you in the pursuit of wrapping up our games before the playoffs start.
I wasn’t going to make the cut for the playoffs anyway at this point unless something drastic changed, and I wouldn’t have been able to participate even if I should have qualified.
My ranking will drop to tier 2 :( and should thus create some changes among the top players.
May the best win.
you’ll always be tier 1 in my book arathorn! :-P
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Have you checked - would some of these opponents prefer to wait for you?
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You would be 3.46 if you claimed all 3 losses. That would be a shame, to the 10 players who played full games against a 4.00.
Surely one or two of these 3 tier 1’s you’re currently playing would be happy to give you a long break
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You would be 3.46 if you claimed all 3 losses. That would be a shame, to the 10 players who played full games against a 4.00.
Surely one or two of these 3 tier 1’s you’re currently playing would be happy to give you a long break
arathorn probably wants a clean slate, no carryovers to next year. i think 0.04 off of tier 1 can be a gamerman judgement call on remaining tier 1, don’t you think? we all know arathorn is a tier 1 quality player.
cheers
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My apologies to my worthy opponents for delays and not being able to claim their wins at the rolls of final dice, but my schedule has disabled me from quality play the next few weeks, and I don’t want to hinder you in the pursuit of wrapping up our games before the playoffs start.
I wasn’t going to make the cut for the playoffs anyway at this point unless something drastic changed, and I wouldn’t have been able to participate even if I should have qualified.
My ranking will drop to tier 2 :( and should thus create some changes among the top players.
May the best win.
Arathorn is a class act……
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You would be 3.46 if you claimed all 3 losses. That would be a shame, to the 10 players who played full games against a 4.00.
Surely one or two of these 3 tier 1’s you’re currently playing would be happy to give you a long break
arathorn probably wants a clean slate, no carryovers to next year. i think 0.04 off of tier 1 can be a gamerman judgement call on remaining tier 1, don’t you think? we all know arathorn is a tier 1 quality player.
cheers
No judgment calls this year. They’re the official rankings. Let him answer for himself. I think it’s likely he’ll reconsider.
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@JWW:
I take challenges from everyone
Mr. Roboto, for the purposes of the league, the playoffs and rankings, I would suggest that you spend a bit more time evaluating who you play in the league, I only suggest this as I am now doing the same to help my PPG next season. I suggest this assuming you want to have a higher rating and make a bid for the playoffs. No system is perfect but this system seems to work out quite well.
Like you I used to welcome newcomers and help teach them “in the league”. Now I suggest we play a non-league game. Still fun, helps newbie’s, you can try out new strategies etc�and it won’t even slightly hurt your PPG�…
Just my two cents
Well thanks for the advice, although I did not need it. I already decided not to play against any tier 4’s next season.
It’s a shame, but oh well… -
Take me, Mr Roboto. I will be a fresh tier three when the next season starts, as far as I understand the rules.
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well but I don’t know if you’re gonna drop to tier 4 later in the season. I didn’t find you in the rankings for this year…
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well but I don’t know if you’re gonna drop to tier 4 later in the season. I didn’t find you in the rankings for this year…
alex is a tier 1 player.
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