XDAP Final… eh, i mean, Semifinal - Allweneedishank vs. TeamBoldDutch

  • '12

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 15

    Combat Move - Russians
                1 bomber moved from Tobruk to Egypt
                1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkey
                      Russians take Turkey from Italians
                1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
                      Chinese take Anhwe from Japanese

    Combat - Russians
                Russians creates battle in territory 42 Sea Zone
                Russians creates battle in territory 97 Sea Zone
                Italians scrambles 3 units out of Southern Italy to defend against the attack in 97 Sea Zone
                Air Battle in Egypt
                    Russians attacks with 1 units heading to Egypt
                    Air Battle is over, the remaining bombers go on to their targets
                Strategic bombing raid in Egypt
                    Bombing raid in Egypt rolls: 6 and causes: 6 damage to unit: airfield
                    Bombing raid in Egypt causes 6 damage total.
                Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                    Russians attack with 1 submarine
                    Italians defend with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 transport
                    Italians win with 3 fighters and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer
                Moving scrambled unit from 97 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
                Moving scrambled unit from 97 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
                Moving scrambled unit from 97 Sea Zone back to originating territory: Southern Italy
                Cleaning up after air battles

    Non Combat Move - Russians
                1 bomber moved from Egypt to Tobruk
                2 aaGuns, 12 artilleries and 71 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkey
                3 infantry moved from Caucasus to Turkey
                1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Shantung
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                1 tactical_bomber moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon

    Turn Complete - Russians

  • TripleA

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Japanese
                Japanese buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 9 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 3 SuicideAttackTokens;

    Combat Move - Japanese
                2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Jehol to Shantung

    Combat - Japanese
                Battle in Shantung
                    Japanese attack with 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Russians defend with 1 infantry
                        Japanese roll dice for 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys in Shantung, round 2 :  2/4 hits
                        Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Shantung, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                        1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Shantung
                    Japanese win, taking Shantung from Chinese with 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                    Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

    Non Combat Move - Japanese
                1 mech_infantry moved from Korea to Jehol
                4 mech_infantrys moved from Shan State to Yunnan
                5 bombers moved from Shan State to Egypt
                3 bombers moved from India to Egypt
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from West India to 79 Sea Zone
                1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 79 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
                1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 81 Sea Zone to Egypt
                1 infantry moved from Samara to Russia

    Place Units - Japanese
                3 mech_infantrys placed in Korea
                3 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China
                3 mech_infantrys placed in India
                1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Japan

    Turn Complete - Japanese
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 43 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,4
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 37 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 19 Sea Zone. Rolls: 4,6
                Japanese collect 59 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 59 PUs total
                Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs

    Territory Summary for Japanese :

    Shantung : 1 flag, 2 armour and 2 mech_infantrys
        Kwangsi : 1 flag
        Korea : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
        Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 1 fighter, 1 harbour, 10 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
        Jehol : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
        Manchuria : 1 flag
        Shensi : 1 flag
        Yunnan : 1 flag, 4 mech_infantrys
        Suiyuyan : 1 flag
        Kweichow : 1 flag
        Hunan : 1 flag
        Kansu : 1 flag
        Hopei : 1 flag
        Tsinghai : 1 flag
        Szechwan : 1 flag
        Chahar : 1 flag
        Sikang : 1 flag
        Shan State : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        Burma : 1 flag
        India : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
        Malaya : 1 flag, 1 harbour
        Borneo : 1 flag
        Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
        Northern Territory : 1 flag
        South Australia : 1 flag, 3 artilleries, 4 fighters, 6 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
        Western Australia : 1 flag
        New Guinea : 1 flag
        Guam : 1 flag, 1 airfield
        French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys
        Java : 1 flag
        Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
        Sumatra : 1 flag
        42 Sea Zone : 1 flag
        41 Sea Zone : 1 flag
        37 Sea Zone : 1 flag
        36 Sea Zone : 1 flag
        Buyant-Uhaa : 1 flag
        West India : 1 flag, 1 harbour
        Egypt : 1 artillery, 8 bombers and 1 infantry
        Russia : 1 infantry
        Turkmenistan : 1 flag
        Samara : 1 flag
        Afghanistan : 1 flag
        Eastern Persia : 1 flag
        81 Sea Zone : 1 transport
        79 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 62 / 151
        Russians : 10 / 0
        Japanese : 63 / 64
        Americans : 63 / 89
        Chinese : 5 / 8
        British : 23 / 26
        UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
        Italians : 38 / 54
        ANZAC : 10 / 10
        French : 7 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 2 / 0

  • '12

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Americans
                Americans buy 1 bomber, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - Americans
                2 bombers moved from Tobruk to Egypt
                2 mech_infantrys moved from Tobruk to Egypt
                1 fighter moved from Tobruk to Egypt
                2 bombers moved from Caucasus to Egypt
                6 fighters moved from 96 Sea Zone to Egypt
                2 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kwangtung
                1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
                1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to 89 Sea Zone
                1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 89 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
                1 infantry moved from British Guiana to 88 Sea Zone
                2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Portugal

    Combat - Americans
                Americans creates battle in territory 42 Sea Zone
                Americans creates battle in territory 37 Sea Zone
                Battle in Portugal
                Battle in Kwangtung
                Battle in Egypt
                    Americans attack with 4 bombers, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery, 8 bombers and 1 infantry; Germans defend with 3 bombers, 5 fighters and 10 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
                    Italians win, taking 42 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking 37 Sea Zone from Japanese, taking Portugal from Italians, taking Kwangtung from Japanese with 2 aaGuns, 1 artillery, 8 bombers, 6 fighters, 1 infantry and 10 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -81
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber
                    Casualties for Germans: 2 bombers
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 bomber
                    Casualties for Americans: 4 bombers, 7 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys

    Non Combat Move - Americans
                1 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
                1 destroyer, 1 infantry and 6 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                1 aaGun moved from Finland to Norway
                7 bombers moved from Eastern United States to 91 Sea Zone
                7 bombers moved from 91 Sea Zone to Algeria
                1 armour moved from Kiangsu to Kwangtung
                5 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 35 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
                1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                2 carriers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
                3 fighters moved from New Zealand to 66 Sea Zone
                3 fighters moved from 66 Sea Zone to Brazil
                3 fighters moved from New South Wales to New Zealand

    Place Units - Americans
                1 bomber and 7 fighters placed in Eastern United States
                1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Norway

    Turn Complete - Americans
                Americans collect 67 PUs; end with 67 PUs total
                Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 72 PUs
                Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs
                Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 82 PUs
                Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 92 PUs

  • '12

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Chinese
                Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
                Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

    Combat Move - Chinese
                1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Hunan
                      Chinese take Hunan from Japanese
                1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
                      Chinese take Kwangsi from Japanese

    Combat - Chinese

    Non Combat Move - Chinese
                10 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangtung

    Place Units - Chinese
                1 infantry placed in Anhwe
                1 infantry placed in Kiangsu

    Turn Complete - Chinese
                Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 9 PUs total

  • '12

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 15

    Purchase Units - British
                British buy 2 fighters and 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

    Combat Move - British
                2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to Normandy Bordeaux
                1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 110 Sea Zone
                2 infantry moved from 110 Sea Zone to Normandy Bordeaux
                3 infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
                9 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Tobruk to Egypt
                1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to South West Africa
                      British take South West Africa from Italians
                1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Mozambique
                      British take Mozambique from Italians
                1 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
                2 bombers and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Union of South Africa to Belgian Congo
                2 bombers and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Belgian Congo to Anglo Egyptian Sudan
                2 bombers and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
                1 mech_infantry moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
                3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 2 transports moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
                3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from 98 Sea Zone to Egypt
                2 battleships and 2 cruisers moved from 96 Sea Zone to 98 Sea Zone
                2 armour moved from Tobruk to Egypt

    Combat - British
                Battle in Rhodesia
                    British attack with 1 infantry
                    Italians defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    British win, taking Rhodesia from Italians with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                    Casualties for Italians: 1 mech_infantry
                Battle in Normandy Bordeaux
                    British attack with 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                    Germans defend with 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
                    British win, taking Normandy Bordeaux from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 9
                    Casualties for Germans: 3 mech_infantrys
                    Casualties for British: 1 infantry
                Battle in Egypt
                    British attack with 2 armour, 2 bombers, 9 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                    Japanese defend with 1 artillery, 7 bombers and 1 infantry; Germans defend with 1 bomber, 5 fighters and 10 tactical_bombers; Italians defend with 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter and 1 harbour
                    Italians win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 70
                    Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery, 7 bombers and 1 infantry
                    Casualties for Germans: 1 bomber, 2 fighters and 10 tactical_bombers
                    Casualties for British: 2 armour, 2 bombers, 9 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 4 tactical_bombers
                    Casualties for Italians: 2 aaGuns and 1 fighter

    Non Combat Move - British
                3 carriers, 1 destroyer and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 99 Sea Zone
                2 fighters moved from Normandy Bordeaux to United Kingdom
                2 destroyers moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone

    Place Units - British
                2 fighters and 2 infantry placed in United Kingdom

    Turn Complete - British
                British collect 28 PUs; end with 28 PUs total

    Turn Complete - UK_Pacific

  • TripleA

    TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

    Game History

    Round: 15

    Purchase Units - Italians
                Italians buy nothing; Remaining resources: 54 PUs;

    Combat Move - Italians

    Non Combat Move - Italians

    Turn Complete - Italians
                Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 99 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
                    Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 98 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5,4,4
                Italians collect 33 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 87 PUs total
                Objective Italians 4 Control Iraq Or Persia Or Northwest Persia: Italians met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 93 PUs
                Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 98 PUs

    Territory Summary for Italians :

    Evenkiyskiy : 1 flag
        Yakut S.S.R. : 1 flag
        Timguska : 1 flag
        Kazakhstan : 1 flag
        Buryatia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
        Belgian Congo : 1 flag
        Trans-Jordan : 1 flag
        Egypt : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
        Kenya : 1 flag
        Anglo Egyptian Sudan : 1 flag
        Tanganyika Territory : 1 flag
        French Equatorial Africa : 1 flag
        Syria : 1 flag
        Denmark : 1 infantry
        Northern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major and 2 infantry
        Southern Italy : 1 airfield, 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 5 infantry, 5 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
        Karelia : 1 flag, 3 mech_infantrys
        Bessarabia : 1 flag
        Novosibirsk : 1 flag
        Saudi Arabia : 1 flag
        Angola : 1 flag
        Greece : 1 flag
        97 Sea Zone : 1 transport
        Iraq : 1 flag
        81 Sea Zone : 1 transport
        Northwest Persia : 1 flag
        Persia : 1 flag

    Production/PUs Summary :

    Germans : 60 / 151
        Russians : 10 / 0
        Japanese : 58 / 64
        Americans : 67 / 92
        Chinese : 7 / 9
        British : 28 / 28
        UK_Pacific : 0 / 0
        Italians : 34 / 98
        ANZAC : 10 / 10
        French : 7 / 0
        Dutch : 0 / 0
        Mongolians : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
        Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
        Neutral_True : 2 / 0

  • '12

    GG gentlemen - it was a pleasure to play you.  egypt held with 3 ftrs.

    the 10 japanese units that crossed over on the final turn were the difference.

    if you are interested, we can begin a discussion by PM regarding the elements of this game.  i know everyone is going to question the attacking of the neutrals, which i agree in hindsight was a mistake.  i have also come to believe that our approach in the pacific was likely not optimal - hank held on to everything for far too long.  my biggest worry was if hank simply took his entire japanese airforce and flew it west to europe the game could have been over many turns ago.

    even better than debating the how, why, and what if’s of this game would be for me to get some high quality games in with either of you guys - AWN would you be interested in a league or nonleague game wherein there will of course be nothing but game posts (unless cow chimes in, which i doubt he will).

    CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICTORS, you for sure earned my respect.  Thank you for the game.  I apologize for my tournament persona if it offended anyone, as i said, i just enjoy playing the role sometimes.  for those that enjoy it i’m happy to do it (cow) for those who don’t, i can turn it off completely (just ask Karl).

    Now, can i please get some high level competition to test my theories on broken victory conditions?

    Cheers

  • '12

    thanks for being willing to continue AWN, but we have no possibility of regaining a victory city prior to G16 so the game is technically over.  several of the moves made recently have all been within the context of the victory conditions so the game went off the rails essentially when japan sent the 10 units over toward egypt.  it’s quite unfortunate because i think there was an incredible amount of great gameplay left in this one if the victory conditions would have been more evolved.

    cheers

  • TripleA

    Good game gentlemen.

  • '17 '16 '15 '12

    Congratulations Hank and AWN!

  • '12

    @alexgreat:

    Congratulations Hank and AWN!

    ok cow, right on time for your final match to begin Nov 1.  good luck to all, should be fun to watch for at least a few rounds.  :wink:

  • '10

    Hank and AWN! Congratulation gentlemen!  A very fine match.  You are both very skilled players and played an excellent game.  Good luck to you in the final.

  • Liaison TripleA '11 '10

    Alright,

    I’ll start digging the graves here…  onto the FINAL MATCH gentleman!


  • @Boldfresh:

    GG gentlemen - it was a pleasure to play you. �egypt held with 3 ftrs.

    the 10 japanese units that crossed over on the final turn were the difference.

    if you are interested, we can begin a discussion by PM regarding the elements of this game. �i know everyone is going to question the attacking of the neutrals, which i agree in hindsight was a mistake. �i have also come to believe that our approach in the pacific was likely not optimal - hank held on to everything for far too long. �my biggest worry was if hank simply took his entire japanese airforce and flew it west to europe the game could have been over many turns ago.

    even better than debating the how, why, and what if’s of this game would be for me to get some high quality games in with either of you guys - AWN would you be interested in a league or nonleague game wherein there will of course be nothing but game posts (unless cow chimes in, which i doubt he will).

    CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICTORS, you for sure earned my respect. �Thank you for the game. �I apologize for my tournament persona if it offended anyone, as i said, i just enjoy playing the role sometimes. �for those that enjoy it i’m happy to do it (cow) for those who don’t, i can turn it off completely (just ask Karl).

    Now, can i please get some high level competition to test my theories on broken victory conditions?

    Cheers

    You threw away the game when you declared war upon the true neutrals without any way to gain from that. you gave the Axis free troops and IPC and gained no IPCs yourself after declaring war. From my perspective there was no reason to declare war upon the true neutrals. I haven�t played AA for very long so I might be missing something. The thing is. The only time you declare war upon the true neutrals is when you can you get Turkey this way and also keep it this way. Spain might be a good second. Other then that you have South America, which is interesting as its 6 more ipcs, but the strategic value of Spain and Turkey generaly outweighs that. You can keep complaining about those planes, but the truth is that you lost the game the moment you declared war upon the true neutrals.

  • '12

    @Soulblighter:

    @Boldfresh:

    GG gentlemen - it was a pleasure to play you. �egypt held with 3 ftrs.

    the 10 japanese units that crossed over on the final turn were the difference.

    if you are interested, we can begin a discussion by PM regarding the elements of this game. �i know everyone is going to question the attacking of the neutrals, which i agree in hindsight was a mistake. �i have also come to believe that our approach in the pacific was likely not optimal - hank held on to everything for far too long. �my biggest worry was if hank simply took his entire japanese airforce and flew it west to europe the game could have been over many turns ago.

    even better than debating the how, why, and what if’s of this game would be for me to get some high quality games in with either of you guys - AWN would you be interested in a league or nonleague game wherein there will of course be nothing but game posts (unless cow chimes in, which i doubt he will).

    CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICTORS, you for sure earned my respect. �Thank you for the game. �I apologize for my tournament persona if it offended anyone, as i said, i just enjoy playing the role sometimes. �for those that enjoy it i’m happy to do it (cow) for those who don’t, i can turn it off completely (just ask Karl).

    Now, can i please get some high level competition to test my theories on broken victory conditions?

    Cheers

    You threw away the game when you declared war upon the true neutrals without any way to gain from that. you gave the Axis free troops and IPC and gained no IPCs yourself after declaring war. From my perspective there was no reason to declare war upon the true neutrals. I haven�t played AA for very long so I might be missing something. The thing is. The only time you declare war upon the true neutrals is when you can you get Turkey this way and also keep it this way. Spain might be a good second. Other then that you have South America, which is interesting as its 6 more ipcs, but the strategic value of Spain and Turkey generaly outweighs that. You can keep complaining about those planes, but the truth is that you lost the game the moment you declared war upon the true neutrals.

    the reason we declared war on the neutrals is that one tac was a giant swing on moscow.  you wouldn’t believe it, but the G7 attack went from an 80+% win in LL to a 20% win or something like that.  i thought that if AWN didn’t get moscow on G7, then by the time he got it it would not matter any more.

    however, a few more turns of the japanese airforce becoming a behemoth showed me that even if we had not attacked the neutrals and given the extra infantry, the japanese could have vacated the pacific and there was no way the allies could have held london and egypt.  moscow and volgo were going to fall.

  • TripleA

    thanks for the game guys. it was fun.

    i was impressed with your mass carrier strategy. at first i thought it was a poor decision, but once you got enough planes to land on all the carriers it was a very effective and flexible.

  • '12

    personally, i think the mass carriers strategy is what created the crossover possibility for japan - too slow to develop, so japan’s income stayed too high for too long.  a slowly developing game allowing japan to pump out so much air creates the devastating crossover possibility i was referring to.  it wouldn’t if japan spent all it’s money on fleet, but when it is building 3 aircraft a round, it creates the imbalance possibility of the japanese AF swooping into europe as a massively overpowered wrecking ball/impenetrable defensive shield.  and at no penalty to the overall victory connditions as far as the allies are concerned.  it doesn’t matter even if tokyo falls if the wrecking ball caused the europe victory, which it easily can.

    problem is, i don’t know a much better strategy to come at japan than we employed.  i know it could be better, but i don’t know if it could be ENOUGH better to reach a tipping point in the pacific early enough.    just some thoughts, please feel free to enlighten me.

  • '15 '14

    @Boldfresh:

    GG gentlemen - it was a pleasure to play you.  egypt held with 3 ftrs.

    the 10 japanese units that crossed over on the final turn were the difference.

    if you are interested, we can begin a discussion by PM regarding the elements of this game.  i know everyone is going to question the attacking of the neutrals, which i agree in hindsight was a mistake.  i have also come to believe that our approach in the pacific was likely not optimal - hank held on to everything for far too long.  my biggest worry was if hank simply took his entire japanese airforce and flew it west to europe the game could have been over many turns ago.

    even better than debating the how, why, and what if’s of this game would be for me to get some high quality games in with either of you guys - AWN would you be interested in a league or nonleague game wherein there will of course be nothing but game posts (unless cow chimes in, which i doubt he will).

    CONGRATULATIONS TO THE VICTORS, you for sure earned my respect.  Thank you for the game.  I apologize for my tournament persona if it offended anyone, as i said, i just enjoy playing the role sometimes.  for those that enjoy it i’m happy to do it (cow) for those who don’t, i can turn it off completely (just ask Karl).

    Now, can i please get some high level competition to test my theories on broken victory conditions?

    Cheers

    Nice post and congratulations to allweneedislove and hank!

    Would be fun to see Bold playing axis vs Allweneedislove playing the Allies with the same bid as in this game, hopefully a league game :)

  • '15 '14

    @Boldfresh:

    problem is, i don’t know a much better strategy to come at japan than we employed.  i know it could be better, but i don’t know if it could be ENOUGH better to reach a tipping point in the pacific early enough.    just some thoughts, please feel free to enlighten me.

    I of course am far away from having an answer on that but as we discussed yesterday I was wondering if a KFJ could be faster and more painful for Japan if directed from Caroline Islands with constantly threatening sz6 but also harass the money islands. This could imo also give Anzac more chances to have an impact.
    However the sz6 containment of course gave the option to get the Russians into play which was also annoying, but maybe not annoying enough than losing the money islands, who knows^^

    Plus: In case Japan goes a lot of air and not so much fleet, more subs could be an answer.
    But as usual the devil lies in the detail and any approach stands and falls by the execution.

    We did not even discuss yet the fall of India and if that was inevitable and how the game would have gone with India in the game for longer.

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