XDAP Final… eh, i mean, Semifinal - Allweneedishank vs. TeamBoldDutch

[boldfresh]

Can o e of you indicate to me when I can expect to see I12 in my email inbox?

[boldfresh]

@Gargantua:

As “Frowned upon” as cow’s comments may be regarding game advice.  There’s nothing stopping him from posting his thoughts here or sending them via PM to AWN if he wants too as well.

So for the record… there’s nothing that can be done about it.

However, 
#1. AWN has made it this far on their own, and I don’t think they’re about to start listening to the local farm animals.
#2. My experience with AWN is that they don’t take well to being given “free advice” or “freebies”, they consider it dishonorable.

So please gentlemen… continue!  Entertaining game to say the least!

Awn can delete pms or emails from cow without reading them - I trust him to do so if he wants a clean win.

[boldfresh]

the final map save can be posted when this match is over.  I’m sorry that there is one idiot that is ruining it for the rest of the community but that is just the way it is.

[boldfresh]

I should phrase it another way because some may not understand my true convictions due to the use of the word idiot.  I do not think cow is an idiot, but he is acting in a way that is hurting the game and the community and I wish I could trust that he would stop.  But if I say we will continue as long as he stops, well, the very next comment could potentially ruin the ebtire match.  I do not hate cow, but I hate this behavior.

[boldfresh]

so to be precise and hopefully thereby not to be misunderstood as personally insulting cow, i am saying he is acting like an idiot.

[allweneedislove]

cow before posting on this thread again please reread post #980.

[boldfresh]

@allweneedislove:

cow before posting on this thread again please reread post #980.

Better yet why dont u print out that post and tape it on your monitor.  Its will ALWAYS be true for every game you are observing.

[allweneedislove]

@Boldfresh:

…�did you notice AWN built 6 ground units the turn that prompted cow’s comment, then built 10 mechs in N italy the immediate following turn? �cuz i noticed. �coincidence? �probably. �but i don’t care…

i do not know what post of cow’s you are reffereing to but this is false.

what did you expect me to buy with the italians subs?
i bought the obvious best units for the turn and you infer that it was based on someone else’s strategy. even after i told you it wasn’t.

@Boldfresh:

…Cow: Japan should hit the US fleet - and not take in the destroyers cuz then they have 70% odds on the fleet. �did you notice that Hank attacked the fleet immediately following this comment, when he actually had better odds on the fleet the turn before? �cuz i noticed. �coincidence? �probably, but i don’t care - cow should not be allowed to taint Hank’s win, if he gets it.

just a couple of representative examples, i think you get the idea.

again i do not know what post of cow’s you are referring to here.
our odds in the j11 attack on sz20 was much much higher than 70%, i believe they were in the high 90s but would have to double check for the exact odds.
on j10 the odds were 1%(this is not an exaggeration to make you look bad, it was actually 1%)

@Boldfresh:

…if you did follow his advice to hit the fleet i think it was detrimental to you and that’s not good either.  i know for a fact you had better odds on our fleet with the same attack a round earlier so it seems quite curious you did it after his comment and not before…

the only thing curious is your facts and probability.

[boldfresh]

I will pull out my calc and we will see if u are right.  Im almost certain u are wrong.  Odds were better the turn befor if not taking in destroyers.

Anyway, when will you be emailing i12 do u think.

For the record I am not saying you are listening to cow but I dont even want that possibility to exist.  He is scared to death to face us and is in desperation mode.

[allweneedislove]

@Boldfresh:

I will pull out my calc and we will see if u are right.  Im almost certain u are wrong.  Odds were better the turn befor if not taking in destroyers…

on j10 hank could not bring any fleet as you had destroyers in sz20 and sz21 blocking the path to your large fleet in sz19.
it would have been all air units and would of had a 1% chance at winning.
the only reason that the sz20 battle looked close was because the final result was not close to the average result which japan would have about 10 air units left

[boldfresh]

@allweneedislove:

@Boldfresh:

I will pull out my calc and we will see if u are right.  Im almost certain u are wrong.  Odds were better the turn befor if not taking in destroyers…

on j10 hank could not bring any fleet as you had destroyers in sz20 and sz21 blocking the path to your large fleet in sz19.
it would have been all air units and would of had a 1% chance at winning.
the only reason that the sz20 battle looked close was because the final result was not close to the average result which japan would have about 10 air units left

Just work on your italy turn.  Dont worry about the past. I believe u taht u didnt listen to cow but I still want to go offline.  Also I will show u where u had better odds on the fleet when I get to a map.

[allweneedislove]

@Boldfresh:

…  To me it is every bit as bad as a direct insult, which he has also levied against me and my family.  …

@DutchmanD:

…
However, for me it became personal when he made crass comments, and even a joke, about the Boston Marathon bombings…

insulting an anonymous person’s family is stupid and mean-spirited.
making light of real tragedy is awful and disrespectful.

assuming that these are true i would hate cow aswell and would stop all contact with this person.

but please try to ignore him on this thread.

[gamerman01]

@allweneedislove:

assuming that these are true i would hate cow aswell and would stop all contact with this person.

I can verify that both of these indeed took place exactly as Bold said.  In fact, Bold toned them down by not directly quoting them word for word.  I saw both posts.

[gamerman01]

However, FWIW, I do not hate Cow based on these 2 outlandish and cruel statements.
I give him the benefit of the doubt, that he is just seeking attention.

[boldfresh]

I think a strong case could be made that cows antics ahould already have disqualified him from this tournament.  On the other hand he has no real chance of winning anyway so he will end up a loser which may be a positive event for him so I have not pushed for his dq.

Anyway garg is the head of this tourney so I defer to him but I would be totally opposed to just declaring this to be the final.  Could even make this a best of 3.  Cow clearly is not deserving of being in the final… the list of reasons is long and aggriegous.

[allweneedislove]

@Boldfresh:

the final map save can be posted when this match is over.� I’m sorry that there is one idiot that is ruining it for the rest of the community but that is just the way it is.

boldfresh,

if you taunt a dog and get bitten, you can not blame the dog.

you have went out of your way to taunt, degrade, make fun, and insult cow as much as possible on our game thread. �even after your problem was solved(he left the boards for a long period of time) you kept up the taunts. he comes back and you are shocked that he then starts posting on our game thread.

i don’t think it is just one that is ruining it for the rest of the community. actually i would guess that more people have had a problem with you than with cow. don’t take the last comment as an insult, go back and look at why the disagreements occurred, if they are all one off situations then maybe it is coincidence. but if you have many problems with the community at large it is probably not the community. it might be something you are doing that is causing the disagreements and you could make a change to stop them from occurring.

[boldfresh]

@allweneedislove:

@Boldfresh:

the final map save can be posted when this match is over.� I’m sorry that there is one idiot that is ruining it for the rest of the community but that is just the way it is.

boldfresh,

if you taunt a dog and get bitten, you can not blame the dog.

you have went out of your way to taunt, degrade, make fun, and insult cow as much as possible on our game thread. �even after your problem was solved(he left the boards for a long period of time) you kept up the taunts. he comes back and you are shocked that he then starts posting on our game thread.

i don’t think it is just one that is ruining it for the rest of the community. actually i would guess that more people have had a problem with you than with cow. don’t take the last comment as an insult, go back and look at why the disagreements occurred, if they are all one off situations then maybe it is coincidence. but if you have many problems with the community at large it is probably not the community. it might be something you are doing that is causing the disagreements and you could make a change to stop them from occurring.

awn, please do not be offended but you are speculating on a lot of things you know very little to nothing about.  please try to concentrate on the italian move that we have been waiting some time for now.  i will take your comments under advisement.

cheers

[boldfresh]

@Gamerman01:

However, FWIW, I do not hate Cow based on these 2 outlandish and cruel statements.
I give him the benefit of the doubt, that he is just seeking attention.

i generally do give cow the benefit of the doubt.  i actually appreciate his passion for the game and i even enjoy the fact that he enjoys trash talk - the only thing he can do that i cannot accept is post about strategy in active games.  TOTALLY unacceptable.

[allweneedislove]

italy 12 emailed.

hank13, p.m. everyone with what email you would like the game files sent to.

[Guest]

@allweneedislove:

what did you expect me to buy with the italians subs?

AA guns :-D