13L G40 MrRoboto (Axis) vs PGMatt (Allies+9) Rematch

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 2 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Smolensk
                  Germans take Smolensk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Evenkiyskiy to Timguska
                  Germans take Timguska from Russians
            1 armour moved from Timguska to Novosibirsk
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            16 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 104 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Bryansk
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Bryansk from Russians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry
            Battle in Rostov
                Germans attack with 16 armour and 7 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 16 armour and 6 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Vologda
            3 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Eastern Poland to Ukraine
            4 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            3 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Tunisia to Tobruk
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers, 4 submarines and 1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Western Germany to Southern Italy

Place Units - Germans
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers placed in 112 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 58 PUs; end with 58 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 68 PUs

[Seador]

Been following the “true cost of units” thread, your comments are well thought out and clear.

I’m not sure my math skills are strong enough, but if you can keep it simple, why do you say the optimal build is 5 subs to each loaded CV?

I can understand soaking hits, but doesn’t the number of subs have more to do with the opponents number of DDs?  My thinking is that you can’t risk having your valuable ships getting crushed by enemy airpower if he can attack without destroyers.  Otherwise, arn’t you stuck building DDs because they can defend against air and subs?

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 3 armour and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 aaGuns, 7 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 34 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Russia to Samara

Place Units - Russians
            3 armour placed in Volgograd
            1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 12 PUs; end with 12 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 15 PUs

Territory Summary for Russians :

Olgiy : 1 flag
    Dzavhan : 1 flag
    Central Mongolia : 1 flag
    Buyant-Uhaa : 1 flag
    Ulaanbaatar : 1 flag
    Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
    Alexandria : 1 infantry
    Russia : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 mech_infantry
    Volgograd : 3 armour and 1 factory_minor
    Samara : 3 aaGuns, 7 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 34 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
    Iraq : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 58 / 68
    Russians : 12 / 15
    Japanese : 68 / 78
    Americans : 52 / 72
    Chinese : 2 / 2
    British : 34 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 6
    Italians : 18 / 28
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 3 fighters, 5 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 SuicideAttackTokens; 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
                  Japanese take Suiyuyan from Chinese
            1 armour moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Tsinghai to Kazakhstan
                  Japanese take Kazakhstan from Russians
            2 armour moved from Yunnan to Shensi
            2 armour, 1 artillery and 1 mech_infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
            1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 46 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to New Guinea
            1 artillery moved from Yenisey to Olgiy
                  Japanese take Olgiy from Russians
            4 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in New Guinea
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking New Guinea from ANZAC with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 tactical_bomber moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 46 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 41 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 armour moved from Malaya to Yunnan
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsu
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kiangsu
            2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            3 armour moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            4 artilleries and 7 infantry moved from Shan State to Yunnan
            2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Japan

Place Units - Japanese
            2 submarines placed in 36 Sea Zone
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
            3 fighters placed in Japan
            1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Japan
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Japan

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 7
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 6 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,5,5,4,3,6,1,1,6
            Japanese collect 64 PUs (7 lost to blockades); end with 65 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

[MrRoboto]

The exact formula is quite complicated, but I can try to explain the general idea.

I’m only talking about pure defense now.

Destroyers: 1/8 hp and 1/4 dmg per IPC.
Cruisers: 1/12 hp and 1/4 dmg per IPC.
Submarines: 1/6 hp and 1/6 dmg per IPC
Carrier+2Fighters: 1/9 hp and 5/18 dmg (0.2777…) per IPC
Battleships: 1/10 hp and 1/5 dmg per IPC.

So what these numbers say: Destroyers offer the best combination of hp and dmg IPC-wise, while carriers are quite close.
BUT: After the first round of battle, battleships and especially carriers are stronger than destroyers.

Now with my formula I can calculate the perfect combination for defense. Carriers are the best defensive units, if you can manage that the fighters survive as long as possible. Having cheap submarines as cannon fodder is worth more than destroyers with slightly less dmg but a lot more cost (33% more expensive!). The best combination is 5 subs for every full carrier.

Now of course that’s not everything. You need to have at least one destroyer against the enemy submarines. And you also need to be prepared to a air-only attack. Since you have full carriers anyway, just build as much destroyers as possible to have good chances at surviving against air-only.
Battleships instead of destroyers are acceptable, as long as you have enough destroyers as cannon fodder for air-only.

@PGMatt:

I can understand soaking hits, but doesn’t the number of subs have more to do with the opponents number of DDs?

Yeah that’s a tricky thing. If the opponent attacks without a destroyer, that’s basically some kind of air-only attack, since you can’t take subs as casualties from his planes. Just make sure to have enough destroyers/battleships with your carriers for this case.

Now that was defense only. But since you also want to threaten a counterattack and convoy, submarines are super important. Another advantage of having mainly subs/carriers is that you can use your fleet very effectively once the naval war is over - subs for convoy and the fighters on land.

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 2 artilleries, 3 destroyers, 2 infantry, 3 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Combat - Americans
            Americans creates battle in territory 6 Sea Zone

Non Combat Move - Americans
            3 destroyers, 3 submarines and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 4 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Quebec
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Central United States to Quebec
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 3 infantry and 2 transports moved from 17 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 25 Sea Zone to Midway
            5 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 16 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            6 submarines moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            3 destroyers, 3 submarines and 2 transports placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 54 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 59 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 64 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 74 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Iwo Jima : 1 flag
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield, 1 artillery and 3 infantry
    26 Sea Zone : 7 submarines
    25 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 3 fighters, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    17 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    6 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    54 Sea Zone : 5 destroyers and 1 submarine
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Quebec : 1 armour, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
    Scotland : 3 fighters
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Algeria : 1 armour, 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 3 destroyers, 3 submarines and 4 transports
    109 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
    101 Sea Zone : 3 destroyers, 3 submarines and 2 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 58 / 68
    Russians : 11 / 15
    Japanese : 71 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 74
    Chinese : 1 / 2
    British : 34 / 39
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 6
    Italians : 18 / 28
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer, 3 mech_infantrys and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 104 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia
                  British take Tunisia from Italians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Tobruk

Combat - British
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 submarines
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
                    British roll dice for 2 submarines in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
                British win with 1 destroyer, 3 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Tobruk
                British attack with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 mech_infantry
                    British roll dice for 1 artillery and 2 infantry in Tobruk, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 mech_infantry in Tobruk, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 mech_infantry owned by the Germans lost in Tobruk
                British win, taking Tobruk from Italians with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Germans: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            3 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys moved from Caucasus to Volgograd
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Caucasus
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Persia to Caucasus
            1 infantry moved from Persia to Northwest Persia
            3 mech_infantrys moved from West India to India

Place Units - British
            1 destroyer placed in 109 Sea Zone
            3 submarines placed in 81 Sea Zone
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Persia

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 35 PUs; end with 36 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            2 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 0
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,5
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 2 infantry

Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :

India : 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 10 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
    43 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 10 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Scotland : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield and 4 infantry
    Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 6 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Tunisia : 1 flag, 1 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 flag, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    Volgograd : 1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys
    Caucasus : 5 mech_infantrys
    119 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    104 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
    109 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag
    81 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines
    Brazil : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 infantry
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys
    110 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 58 / 68
    Russians : 11 / 15
    Japanese : 71 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 74
    Chinese : 1 / 3
    British : 35 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 17 / 28
    ANZAC : 10 / 13
    French : 5 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 airfield and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 92 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 92 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Southern Italy to 104 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 83 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 83 Sea Zone to French West Africa

Combat - Italians
            Battle in French West Africa
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                British defend with 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
                Italians win, taking French West Africa from French with 1 bomber, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 2 submarines

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber and 2 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 2 submarines and 1 transport moved from 92 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Southern France to 93 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            3 fighters moved from Southern Italy to Gibraltar

Place Units - Italians
            1 airfield placed in Gibraltar
            2 submarines placed in 93 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 18 PUs; end with 19 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 24 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 29 PUs

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            2 destroyers and 2 submarines moved from 62 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone

Combat - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 submarine placed in 62 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in New South Wales
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Queensland: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from New South Wales: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

Territory Summary for ANZAC :

India : 3 fighters
    Queensland : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 3 infantry
    New Zealand : 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    New South Wales : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Dutch New Guinea : 1 flag
    44 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    54 Sea Zone : 2 destroyers and 2 submarines
    62 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    Alexandria : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 58 / 68
    Russians : 11 / 15
    Japanese : 71 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 74
    Chinese : 1 / 3
    British : 35 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 18 / 29
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French
            2 infantry moved from Trans-Jordan to Egypt

Turn Complete - French

Territory Summary for French :

Egypt : 2 infantry
    United Kingdom : 2 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 58 / 68
    Russians : 11 / 15
    Japanese : 71 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 74
    Chinese : 1 / 3
    British : 35 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 18 / 29
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 artillery, 2 carriers, 1 factory_minor, 2 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 infantry moved from Smolensk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Vologda to Russia
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Russia
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
                  Germans take Tambov from Russians
            1 armour moved from Novosibirsk to Volgograd
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            5 armour moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            3 armour moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Rostov to Volgograd
            7 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Rostov to Caucasus
            4 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Caucasus
            2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 112 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Southern Italy to 110 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 1 destroyer
                Germans win with 2 bombers, 2 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Caucasus
                Germans attack with 11 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 5 mech_infantrys
                Germans win, taking Caucasus from Russians with 11 armour and 4 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for British: 5 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Volgograd
                Germans attack with 10 armour and 5 mech_infantrys
                British defend with 1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys; Russians defend with 3 armour and 1 factory_minor
                Germans win, taking Volgograd from Russians with 8 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is 20
                Casualties for Germans: 2 armour and 5 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Russians: 3 armour
                Casualties for British: 1 armour and 7 mech_infantrys
            Battle in Russia
                Germans attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 mech_infantry
                Germans captures 15PUs while taking Russians capital
                Germans converts factory_major into different units
                Germans win, taking Russia from Russians with 1 artillery and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            2 aaGuns, 13 artilleries and 20 infantry moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            1 mech_infantry moved from Novgorod to Vologda
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Poland to Germany
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 5 destroyers and 4 submarines moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            2 carriers placed in 113 Sea Zone
            1 factory_minor placed in Rostov
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Novgorod

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 66 PUs; end with 83 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 88 PUs
            Objective Germans 3 Control Caucasus: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 93 PUs
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 15 PUs; end with 108 PUs

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Combat Move - Russians
            7 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 34 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Samara to Volgograd

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Volgograd
                Russians attack with 7 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 34 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 8 armour and 1 factory_minor
                    Russians roll dice for 7 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 34 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Volgograd, round 2 :  15/57 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 8 armour in Volgograd, round 2 :  3/8 hits
                    3 infantry owned by the Russians and 8 armour owned by the Germans lost in Volgograd
                Russians win, taking Volgograd from Germans with 7 armour, 13 artilleries, 2 fighters, 31 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 39
                Casualties for Germans: 8 armour
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            3 aaGuns moved from Samara to Volgograd
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Volgograd to Persia

Turn Complete - Russians

Territory Summary for Russians :

Dzavhan : 1 flag
    Central Mongolia : 1 flag
    Buyant-Uhaa : 1 flag
    Ulaanbaatar : 1 flag
    Tsagaan Olom : 1 flag
    Egypt : 1 infantry
    Volgograd : 3 aaGuns, 7 armour, 13 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 31 infantry
    Iraq : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 flag
    Persia : 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 64 / 108
    Russians : 5 / 0
    Japanese : 71 / 70
    Americans : 52 / 74
    Chinese : 1 / 3
    British : 35 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 18 / 29
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 1 carrier, 4 infantry, 1 submarine and 4 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 0 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 unit repaired.
            1 infantry moved from New Guinea to 46 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 46 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 49 Sea Zone to Solomon Islands
            5 armour, 1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Shensi to Kansu
            1 infantry moved from Kazakhstan to Samara
                  Japanese take Samara from Russians
            1 artillery moved from Olgiy to Kansu

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Solomon Islands
            Battle in Kansu
                Japanese attack with 5 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese defend with 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                4 armour owned by the Japanese retreated to Shensi
                Chinese win, taking Solomon Islands from ANZAC with 1 fighter and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is -12
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour and 5 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Kweichow
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to 19 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 1 infantry and 2 transports moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 1 destroyer and 4 submarines moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 carrier, 1 submarine and 4 transports placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 72 PUs; end with 72 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 77 PUs

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 12 submarines; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 49 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Algeria to Libya
                  Americans take Libya from Italians
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 101 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Scotland to United Kingdom

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 49 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 submarine
                Japanese defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Japanese lost in 49 Sea Zone
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 49 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                Americans win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Americans
            5 destroyers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Midway to 25 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 2 carriers, 3 fighters, 3 infantry, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports moved from 25 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 4 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 3 submarines and 2 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Algeria to Tunisia

Place Units - Americans
            10 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 submarines placed in 101 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 53 PUs; end with 55 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 60 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 75 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Caroline Islands : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 harbour
    Iwo Jima : 1 flag
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    Hawaiian Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    49 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    26 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 5 destroyers, 3 fighters, 8 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    17 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    6 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Eastern United States : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major and 1 harbour
    United Kingdom : 3 fighters
    Morocco : 1 flag
    Tunisia : 2 artilleries and 3 infantry
    Libya : 1 flag, 1 armour
    106 Sea Zone : 1 flag, 1 armour, 2 artilleries, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 3 fighters, 6 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys, 6 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 6 transports
    90 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    101 Sea Zone : 12 submarines
    103 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    88 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 64 / 108
    Russians : 4 / 0
    Japanese : 72 / 77
    Americans : 53 / 75
    Chinese : 1 / 3
    British : 35 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 17 / 29
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy nothing; Remaining resources: 3 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter and 4 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 4 infantry
                Japanese defend with 4 armour
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 4 infantry in Shensi, round 2 :  0/5 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 armour in Shensi, round 2 :  1/4 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 3 infantry in Shensi, round 3 :  1/4 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 4 armour in Shensi, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 infantry in Shensi, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 armour in Shensi, round 4 :  1/3 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 fighter in Shensi, round 5 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 armour in Shensi, round 5 :  2/3 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                Japanese win with 3 armour remaining. Battle score for attacker is -16
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 fighter and 4 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 1 PU; end with 4 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 64 / 108
    Russians : 4 / 0
    Japanese : 72 / 77
    Americans : 53 / 75
    Chinese : 1 / 4
    British : 35 / 36
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 17 / 29
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Seador]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 5 infantry and 3 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 119 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 104 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                British attack with 2 destroyers and 3 fighters
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
                    Italians roll dice for 1 submarine in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 destroyers and 3 fighters in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/5 hits
                    Italians roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Italians and 1 submarine owned by the Italians lost in 104 Sea Zone
                British win with 2 destroyers and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - British
            3 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            2 aaGuns and 4 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Tobruk to Alexandria
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 armour moved from Libya to Tobruk

Place Units - British
            3 transports placed in 81 Sea Zone
            3 infantry placed in Persia
            2 infantry placed in Union of South Africa

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 35 PUs; end with 35 PUs total

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 infantry placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 39 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4
            UK_Pacific collect 2 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 4 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 infantry

Territory Summary for British, UK_Pacific :

India : 4 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 4 artilleries, 1 bomber, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 11 infantry, 8 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
    43 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Iceland : 1 airfield
    Quebec : 1 factory_minor
    Alexandria : 1 artillery and 2 infantry
    New Brunswick Nova Scotia : 1 harbour
    Egypt : 3 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 10 infantry
    Union of South Africa : 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Scotland : 1 airfield
    Malta : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 5 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 3 fighters, 1 harbour, 10 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Algeria : 1 flag
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Tobruk : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Libya : 1 artillery and 6 infantry
    Italian Somaliland : 1 flag
    Ethiopia : 1 flag
    104 Sea Zone : 2 destroyers
    Eastern Persia : 1 flag
    81 Sea Zone : 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 4 submarines and 3 transports
    Brazil : 1 flag
    Northwest Persia : 1 infantry
    Persia : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 3 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 64 / 108
    Russians : 4 / 0
    Japanese : 72 / 77
    Americans : 53 / 75
    Chinese : 1 / 4
    British : 35 / 35
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 4
    Italians : 17 / 29
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 11

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 9 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 93 Sea Zone to 103 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Gibraltar to 91 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 85 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 85 Sea Zone to Brazil
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 91 Sea Zone to 82 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 82 Sea Zone to French Equatorial Africa
            1 infantry moved from French West Africa to Gold Coast
                  Italians take Gold Coast from British
            1 artillery moved from French West Africa to 83 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 83 Sea Zone to 70 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 70 Sea Zone to Belgian Congo
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 88 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 91 Sea Zone to 90 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 103 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 104 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Gibraltar to 104 Sea Zone

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Brazil
            Battle in French Equatorial Africa
            Battle in Belgian Congo
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                British defend with 2 destroyers
                retreated to 104 Sea Zone
                British win, taking Brazil from British, taking French Equatorial Africa from French, taking Belgian Congo from British with 2 destroyers remaining. Battle score for attacker is -6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
            Battle in 88 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Italians win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 90 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is -8
                Casualties for Italians: 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 103 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Italians win with 1 fighter and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from 104 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 103 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 88 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 91 Sea Zone to 107 Sea Zone

Place Units - Italians
            2 fighters placed in Southern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Italians collect 22 PUs; end with 31 PUs total
            Objective Italians 2 Roman Empire: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 36 PUs
            Objective Italians 1 Control The Mediterranean: Italians met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs

[Seador]

I think I’m going to resign this game, the economic position is insurmountable and you have positional edge around the globe too.

[MrRoboto]

Yeah it’s looking very, very well for me.
You could have held Moscow for at least one additional turn, had you not decided to give up on it. That move was really weird.

[Seador]

but loss there was inevitable.

My thinking was that by retreating I might actually catch your mechanaized forces in the south on a retreat to hold Egypt.

I really don’t see Moscow as the end of the game, so I wanted that army to hold Caucus/Middle east. My issue, as I saw it, was that the western allies could make no progress into Western Europe.