G40L Hobo (axis) vs MrRoboto (allies+9)

[hobo]

your defensive attrition hit rate continues to be unbelievable !@#$ and I can’t even hit average on mine  :?

[MrRoboto]

Yeah indeed. I am super lucky in this game. Sorry for that, I know that feel…

[MrRoboto]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 6 artilleries and 7 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 infantry moved from Baltic States to Eastern Poland
            2 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
            1 fighter moved from Belarus to Bessarabia
            2 infantry moved from Northwest Persia to Iraq
            1 armour, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Persia to Iraq
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Battle in 114 Sea Zone
                Russians attack with 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
                Germans defend with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 4 transports
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Germans
                Germans win with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 4 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is -18
                Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser and 1 submarine
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 1 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun
                Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun
            Battle in Bessarabia
                Russians attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 artillery
                Russians win, taking Bessarabia from Germans with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Iraq
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Neutral_Axis defend with 3 infantry
                Russians win, taking Iraq from Neutral_Axis with 1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Neutral_Axis: 3 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 infantry
                1 fighter owned by the Germans forced to land in Poland

Non Combat Move - Russians
            1 fighter moved from Bessarabia to Bryansk
            1 armour, 2 artilleries, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 fighter moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            3 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            4 armour, 1 artillery, 7 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Belarus to Bryansk
            10 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            2 aaGuns and 18 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska

Place Units - Russians
            3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
            3 artilleries and 7 infantry placed in Russia
            1 armour placed in Volgograd

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total
            Objective Russians 2 Spread Of Communism: Russians met a national objective for an additional 3 PUs; end with 39 PUs

[hobo]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 artillery moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi
            1 artillery moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 armour moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Shensi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone

[hobo]

need scramble orders and ool

[MrRoboto]

I’ll max scramble. OOL please for max defense (US before anzac, but max defense is priority).

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 6 SuicideAttackTokens; 2 PUs;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 bombers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 6 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            3 carriers, 3 destroyers and 1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 fighter moved from 37 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 battleship moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 artillery moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Kansu to Shensi
            1 artillery moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 armour moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
            3 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Shan State
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Szechwan
            1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            1 destroyer moved from 16 Sea Zone to 25 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Szechwan
            1 fighter moved from Kwangsi to Shensi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Shan State
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            Americans scrambles 2 units out of Caroline Islands to defend against the attack in 33 Sea Zone
            Battle in 33 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 4 carriers, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 7 fighters, 2 submarines and 5 tactical_bombers
                ANZAC defend with 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers and 2 fighters; Americans defend with 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 3 carriers owned by the Americans
                Units damaged: 1 carrier owned by the Japanese and 1 battleship owned by the Japanese
                Japanese win with 1 battleship, 2 bombers, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 126
                Casualties for Japanese: 3 carriers, 4 fighters and 4 tactical_bombers
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 cruiser, 3 destroyers and 2 fighters
                Casualties for Americans: 1 battleship, 3 carriers, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 5 fighters, 2 submarines, 1 tactical_bomber and 3 transports
            Battle in 25 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 44 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine and 1 transport
                British defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking 44 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 submarine and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in Shensi
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 1 infantry
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in Shan State
                Japanese attack with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 4 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 3 artilleries, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
            Battle in Celebes
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                British defend with 1 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Celebes from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Borneo
            Battle in Sumatra
                Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                British defend with 2 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Sumatra from UK_Pacific with 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for British: 2 infantry
            Battle in Szechwan
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Szechwan from Chinese with 1 armour, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 fighters could not land in 33 Sea Zone and were removed
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Szechwan to Kwangsi
            1 aaGun and 4 infantry moved from Kweichow to Yunnan
            4 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Hunan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marianas
            1 fighter moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marianas
            2 bombers moved from 33 Sea Zone to Marianas
            1 fighter moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
            1 fighter moved from Shan State to Kwangsi
            2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 fighter moved from 25 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kweichow

Place Units - Japanese
            1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
            Japanese undo move 1.
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
            1 factory_minor placed in Malaya
            1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 61 PUs; end with 63 PUs total

[hobo]

my good fortune was somewhat marred by my screw up in taking that extra hit on a carrier hence losing an extra couple planes, but I can’t complain  :lol:

That makes up for uk although I really prefer having those german planes than japanese navy…

[MrRoboto]

I don’t think I can stop Japan anymore.

You are just a much better player than me.
Losing London is bad, but actually not that horrible. In my experience it’s very hard for Germany to overcome Russia after sealion. Especially after you lost a lot of your planes.
So overall, I’m not that unhappy with Europe, although it could have been played better of course.

But in the Pac I screwed up completely. I know my Allies play in Pacific is very lackluster in general, I am still searching for the right way to play there. But in this game I performed badly even for my standards.

It might be a bit early for conceding. But as I said, I don’t feel I can stop Japan from winning (This will happen way before a possible Europe win). And any chance I might have to come back is based on the hope of getting very lucky - and I don’t want to win with heavy dice luck.

So congratulations Hobo. I will analyze your play and possibly watch other games from you too, since I feel I can learn a lot from you!

[hobo]

well honestly it’s a bit premature since if there are big battles to be had, it’s really hard to say.  like the 95% battle for uk went pretty horribly.  in the last game you probably should have turtled in moscow and hoped you got lucky.  if not then surrender.  I know the odds would have been horrible but 5% is 5%.  I’ve lost so many 90% battles in my league games so far.

if you want my advice, you have to go 1 way or the other for usa.  you can’t split forces.  I’ve been successful playing allies in both taking out japan and germany but whatever you choose it has to be all out.  the only problem with going after germany is japan taking 6 vc so at some point you have to do something even if germany is getting its ass kicked.

honestly my plan in this game was to draw attention away from the pacific.  I knew you’d throw something from the usa after uk fell.  that meant sooner or later, japan would have the odds on some major battle, like the one we just did.  normally I would take any coin flip to take out a major us force in the pacific so when my odds were almost 90% it was a no brainer.  I almost attacked the us force in hawaii on turn 2 with only a 40% chance of mutual destruction.

I think you are undercutting germany a bit against ussr after sealion.  yes it has to play defense but without any pressure from usa, I would have gone on the offensive fast and gotten to a point I could attrition ussr down.  normally I don’t even try sealion no matter how tempting but wanted to mix it up a little this game.

anyways thanks for the games, it was interesting

[MrRoboto]

As I said - I was lucky already in this game and any chance I might have left is only based on even more luck. I feel I don’t deserve a win now, since that would be more than the usual amount of “being lucky”.

I feared that US needs to invest like 80% or more in one of the theatres. I don’t really like that play, since I feel it’s not historically accurate and just “feels wrong”.

But when I play Axis, I really have a hard time when US goes heavy in the PAC. Only for a couple of rounds, maybe until 4 or 5. Usually by then, US never ever needs to invest in the pac anymore, since Anzac, China and UK-Pac can match and even surpass the japanese production and won’t need help then anymore.

I will try this in my next game, excited to see if I can make it work too.

I lost the only game, where I tried sealion. And this was only my 2nd loss playing allies, after being victim of sealion. I managed to win 4 or 5 times after losing london, though. So it’s just my personal experience with sealion.