@Curtmungus your honor of being more famous than me is quite deserved. I salute you.
Puerto Rico
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I think once Castro passes the time will have come to reexamine it. The embargo is pointless, we practice a policy of engaging China with business to open it up, why in the world would that not work with Cuba, which is smaller and in our ‘backyard’ so to speak?
Think of the tourist opportunities…
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It’s kinda like marijuana…if it were legalized(might need to start another thread for this) the government could make billions of dollars in taxes…but the problem is most people see it as “wrong” and that we couldn’t live in a country where something that is not even as harmful as alcohol(IMO) exists…
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Yeah, you could start another thread easy on that one. I think many people see it as a starting place for harder drugs. Dunno and have no immediate plans to find out. :)
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It’s kinda like marijuana
When I first glanced at that I was like wow, you really enjoy your smoke that much :D
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It’s kinda like marijuana
When I first glanced at that I was like wow, you really enjoy your smoke that much :D
haha
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Wait, why do we care about Puerto Rico? :D
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the “gateway drug” argument is true to an extent, but not as far as some people take it. one reason the govt doesnt want to legalize it, is they dont want to accept the marijuana “lifestyle”. they dont want to make that acceptable. even if marijuana is legalized, the kind of lifestyle it can lead to, and is enjoyed in by many people, is not one that we want people to lead. wrt alcohol, the same can be true, but there is also plenty of acceptable use going on, and good luck banning it. we tried it once, failed miserably. for all the clamor comparing pot to prohibition, the situation is far better than it was under prohibition.
anyway, im rambling. i think the point i was trying to make is how i see the pot situation.
just so u know, i have used it before, wasnt particularly enamored. the buzz wasnt so great, and it was harsher getting there than drinking (i was coughing so much, i thought i would die)
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I think pot serves as too much of a gateway drug, even if the effects are overstated to legalize it.
I don’t doubt people would make considerable amounts of money running tourists to Cuba, or importing those (supposedly) fine cigars…
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there are some fine cubans. but i maintain, that they are not fine solely because they are cuban. there are some rank cuban cigars. as well as some decent ones that i think are bested by dominicans
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@marine36:
ydavid, if you think Puerto Rico wouldnt cause immigration problems because its an island, then you obviously havent been to Miami, Cuba is an island too, but they manage to get to Miami.
Marine, once again you are responding with out doing a simple check. Puerto Rico is about 1000 miles from Florida and Cuba is about 100. :roll:
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Maybe they’re really good swimmers… :)
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Maybe they are capable of operating a boat?
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Maybe they have oil. :evil:
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Pot is a gateway drug because it introduces you to the drug world. However, we are sentient beings, and we make our own decisions. At a very young age, I made a vow I would never try any hard drugs, and I never have. Pot isn’t and will never be a gateway drug for me. The “Gateway” phenomena is a function of free will; there’s nothing inherent in Cannibus that makes it a gateway drug.
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@marine36:
Maybe they are capable of operating a boat?
Imigrating 1000 miles over water isn’t as easy as hopping in a rowboat.
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I can’t find it now but remember a few months back some folks from Cuba made that like 57 Chevy bouyant and tried to float it to the US…god that picture was great.
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How much gas would they need? Could they store it? Since the Coast Guard is good at stopping Cubans how would they get by them in greater numbers after traveling 10 times as far?
Also, the conditions are better, so would as many of them want to immigrate compared to Cuba?
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the idea of pot being a gateway drug is based on the idea that once you try pot, you are more likely to be willing to try something else, because you have already crossed that first line.
this does not mean it will happen for everyone, or even most people. it also doesnt mean that you will continue using a drug that you try. but psychologically, it is correct. because in most people, crossing the first line makes it easier to cross another. -
there is more leniency with cuban refugees, because if they claim they are fleeing for their lives, they can get refugee status in the US. since cuba is considered a terrorist nation, they can use this. mexican citizens, dont have this benefit. they are fleeing from poverty, not danger to their lives. this is not a reason that will grant refugee status
i think it’s more complicated than this. The US immigration policy w.r.t. Cuba seems to be more geared towards destabilizing the country. The people who “flee” Cuba do so to take advantage of the US policy of automatically granting a green card to any Cuban who lands on US soil - something that is VERY difficult to come by for any other country. This selective immigration policy has been responsible for every hostage-taking/immigration crisis of the island since '59.
by the way, this is reasoning from INS and other Govt agencies, not my personal beliefs.
understood. I have noticed how the Cuban gov’t is not the only entity that uses propaganda as a method of “adjusting” popular opinion.
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