Japan Unveils Largest Warship Since WWII

[Imperious Leader]

Just posting here because ripdiapers70 thinks i “bailed” from this thread. Rather nothing noteworthy has been posted since my last post.

[ABWorsham4]

It’s good to see the Japanese Armed Forces showing some strength. A country should have the ability to defend itself without relying on Allies.

[Gargantua]

@ABWorsham:

It’s good to see the Japanese Armed Forces showing some strength. A country should have the ability to defend itself without relying on Allies.

Why do you think Iran is so busy trying to get itself a Nuke?

Because as soon as they have one, they’re off limits.  Just like those North Koreans…

Except, we view that thought process as a crime for some reason.

[Imperious Leader]

They are off limits only in the sense that they turn into another Korea, which is isolated from the global economy. That is a fate worse than what they had before.

[toblerone77]

This topic is cool but not really shocking. Most modern navies have at least some type of vessel you would call a carrier. Not just a destroyer, frigate or cruiser with a helipad.

I can’t remember the name or class but even the French at some point in modern history had an aircraft carrier that could operate fixed-wing traditional aircraft. It was no Nimitz, but it wasn’t just a helo or Harrier carrying ship. With the advance in aircraft design and changing face of war, it’s not impossible to imagine a small carrier possibly a drone carrier, coming onto the scene.

[Gargantua]

@rjpeters70:

The French have the De Gaulle.  Still in operation, but plagued by significant operational problems.  They fly Rafael’s from it and some helos.

This Japanese LHD (or destroyer, if that’s what the want to call it) should be excellent not only for ASW, but also for seizing and defending offshore assets.

And for killing North Koreans and Chinamen.

Am I right?

[Omega1759]

@Imperious:

This is not a destroyer.

Good looking ship. Considering the potential for this ship to host F-35Bs (unclear if it can right now, but it has the potential), this is a light aircraft carrier.

[Omega1759]

@rjpeters70:

Like I said, if the Marines at Pax River can get the SVOTL worked out, and if we sell F-35s to Japan, and if they decide to base them on the new destroyer, then yes, it can project fixed wing aircraft.  And yes, it is the size of the de Gaulle, a pretty dated carrier.  But it’s not a supercarrier, it is much more like an LHD–which itself is supposed to carry SVOTL F-35s attached to a MAGTF according to the JOAC.

I thought that the De Gaulle was in the 40,000 tons range with 40 aircraft and a steam catapult, which would be a medium size fleet carrier (and only nuclear steam catapult carrier outside of the US). The new Japanese ship could carry maybe a dozen SVOTL, which is a far smaller capability.

[Gargantua]

What Japan needs is a galaxy class federation starship.

[Witt]

Or a  Kamikaze training program.
You would sign up Garg  and if they will have me with my bad eyesight, I will join you.
Oh and my poor hearing, bad back….
Let’s face it, we all want a strong Japan again.

[Imperious Leader]

China will eventually try to take Formosa back, which will trigger a regional war. Japan needs her Akagi back to counter China’s floating “casino carrier” they bought from Russia.

I bet Japan has laid down a few more construction projects for more 840 foot “destroyers”

[Jennifer]

@Gargantua:

What Japan needs is a galaxy class federation starship.

Bah, useless.  A D’Deridex or Moghai would wipe the floor with them with plenty of time left over for afternoon tea!

[Jennifer]

In my opinion, in the current environment, Japan would never go to war with the United States.

The Indian Ocean may be a requirement when chasing the Chinese perhaps.

[Gargantua]

Now, we’ve established that for 8 IPC’s those are “destroyers”.

Just imagine the Cruiser, Carrier, or Battleship…  :evil:

[aequitas-et-veritas]

What makes you guys think and be so sure that Japan has no plan to attack the U.S.?

After all, Japan has the top motiv for it, don`t they?!…

[Imperious Leader]

Japan will probably never attack the US again.

They need to take back Formosa, Manchukuo, and Korea first to even be in the ballgame.

The worry is China trying to make good on all these claims over various independent nations.

Good that most of these require sea travel and China has little naval capabilities.

[Gargantua]

Good that most of these require sea travel and China has little naval capabilities.

Although I believe that “used” to be an accurate assessment… I don’t believe it is anymore.

The chinese have constructed a series of advanced sub pens along their coast, aswell as a interlinking network of “sub tunnels” that spider web across their mainland, allowing them to hide nuclear equipment anywhere, in inaccessible areas, and move portions of their navy, undetected over land.

And almost all formal naval combat drills done at the naval base here in Esquimalt by US, Canadian, and other pacific forces, are always against a force “strongly” resembling those chinese.

It’s also a concern, that the leading edge of some of the best “weather control” technology today, is by the chinese.

In talking to several senior naval intelligence staff (Both US and Canadian) it’s common knowledge that the chinese have the naval forces in place to lock down the entire south east pacific, and chinese seas.

I would also caution that the reds would likely find significant support in some of their “overseas chinese” groups as well.

They should not be trifled with loosely.

[Gargantua]

The plot thickens!

India just launched an Aircraft Carrier of it’s own! and powers up a nuclear sub!

http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/08/12/india-launches-first-aircraft-carrier-and-powers-up-nuclear-sub-a-shot-across-the-bow-to-china-for-pacific-dominance/

Well… it’s still sort of under construction, but you get the idea.

[Imperious Leader]

That is clearly a Destroyer. Or a giant Tandoori oven.

[Jennifer]

TBH no one can tell them apart, they’re all carrier, battleship, destroyer hybrids these days.