13L G40 Gamerman01(allies+10) vs seththenewb(axis)

[seth4god]

I did not know that . . . I just figured that it was the attacker’s choice once scrambling and intercept decisions had been made. Could you tell me where it lays out this rule? I don’t doubt you, I just want to read it myself.  :-)

[seth4god]

If there are multiple amphibious assaults, something that happens quite a bit in the Pacific, would you roll each naval battle and then it’s corresponding amph assault before moving on to the next naval battle/amph assault combo? Or could you roll all the naval battles that clear the way for the amph assaults and then roll the amph assaults themselves?

[gamerman01]

@seththenewb:

I did not know that . . . I just figured that it was the attacker’s choice once scrambling and intercept decisions had been made. Could you tell me where it lays out this rule? I don’t doubt you, I just want to read it myself.  :-)

No problem.

You need to read at the beginning of “phase 3: conduct combat”, which is page 16 in the 2nd edition Europe rule book.

You will see “Combat sequence”
1
2
3

I also had to look in the rule book to believe it when Funcioneta told me.

[gamerman01]

@seththenewb:

If there are multiple amphibious assaults, something that happens quite a bit in the Pacific, would you roll each naval battle and then it’s corresponding amph assault before moving on to the next naval battle/amph assault combo?

Yes.

Or could you roll all the naval battles that clear the way for the amph assaults and then roll the amph assaults themselves?

No.

Page 18, under “Step 3. Land combat”
It says after the sea battle, you put the ground units on the battle strip.
Playing face to face, you would only have one battle on the battle strip at a time.
To put the ground units on the battle strip after resolving the sea combat necessarily means that the corresponding land battle will take place next, before any other battle.

Of course, with multiple amphibious assaults, the player has complete control over the order of them, but all amphibious assaults must be resolved before resolving any non-amphibious assaults, just as all SBR’s must be resolved before any amphibious assaults are rolled.

And yes, at times this rule about the order of combat is critical.  Unfortunately, Veqryn doesn’t see it and hasn’t programmed Triple A to enforce it (and yes I’ve tried).

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Politics - Americans
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: has removed 1 factory_minor owned by Americans in Eastern United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Western: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Western United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Central: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Central United States
            Trigger Americans War Production Eastern: Americans has 1 factory_major placed in Eastern United States

Research Technology - Americans
            Americans spend 5 on tech rolls
            Americans removing all Technology Tokens after unsuccessful research.

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 3 destroyers, 1 infantry, 2 submarines and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 1 PUs; 0 techTokens;

Combat Move - Americans
            Trigger Americans Unrestricted Movement: Setting movementRestrictionTerritories cleared  for rulesAttatchment attached to Americans
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 26 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Central United States to 26 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 26 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 2 destroyers and 1 submarine
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                Americans win, taking 26 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 5 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 destroyers and 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 artillery moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Western United States to 10 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 artillery moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            3 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 bomber moved from 26 Sea Zone to Hawaiian Islands
            1 armour moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Central United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 86 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 86 Sea Zone to Brazil
                  Americans take Brazil from Neutral_Allies
            1 cruiser moved from 101 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 infantry moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            2 aaGuns moved from Eastern United States to Central United States
            1 aaGun moved from Western United States to Central United States
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Alberta Saskatchewan Manitoba
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico
            1 mech_infantry moved from Central United States to Southeast Mexico

Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 infantry placed in Central United States
            2 destroyers and 1 submarine placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 53 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 58 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 63 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 73 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Artillery Supplies: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Open
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Szechwan to Hunan
            2 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Hunan
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Chinese win, taking Hunan from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            6 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from Shensi to Szechwan
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Yunnan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total
            Objective Chinese 1 Burma Road: Chinese met a national objective for an additional 6 PUs; end with 16 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Burma to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 96 Sea Zone

[gamerman01]

Scramble to 97?

[seth4god]

no scramble.

[gamerman01]

Dang!  :wink:

Or maybe not!  We’ll see what the dice do!

[gamerman01]

Need to roll 110 here because Triple A does it wrong

Rolls: 1@2 1@3; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)1@3: (5)Rolls: 2@1; Total Hits: 02@1: (2, 4)

[gamerman01]

110 round 2Rolls: 1@2 1@3; Total Hits: 11@2: (3)1@3: (2)Rolls: 2@1; Total Hits: 02@1: (6, 2)

[gamerman01]

Retreat to 109

[seth4god]

Thanks for the fyi on the amph assault rules.

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 1

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 destroyer and 2 fighters; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 2 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 fighter moved from Burma to 37 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to 37 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Burma to Yunnan
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 91 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Scotland to 97 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Gibraltar to 97 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from United Kingdom to 96 Sea Zone

Combat - British
            Battle in 37 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 cruiser
                British win, taking 37 Sea Zone from Japanese with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser
                Turning on Edit Mode
                EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 110 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
                EDIT: Removing units owned by British from 110 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                EDIT: Adding units owned by British to 109 Sea Zone: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Germans defend with 1 submarine
            Battle in 97 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
                British winGermans win with 1 submarine remaining, taking 97 Sea Zone from Neutral with 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 28
                Casualties for British: 1 tactical_bomber
                Casualties for Italians: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 transport
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 bomber and 1 fighter
                Italians defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British win with 1 bomber and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 15
                Casualties for Italians: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - British
            1 bomber moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from Quebec to 106 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 106 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 106 Sea Zone to 119 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 1 infantry moved from 109 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 aaGun and 2 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Ontario to Quebec
            2 infantry moved from Union of South Africa to Rhodesia
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Yunnan
            1 infantry moved from West India to Eastern Persia
                  British take Eastern Persia from Neutral_Allies
            1 transport moved from 39 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
                  UK_Pacific take Sumatra from Dutch
            3 aaGuns and 5 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 destroyer moved from 71 Sea Zone to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
                  British take Greece from Neutral_Allies
            1 armour moved from 97 Sea Zone to Greece
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt

Place Units - British
            1 destroyer placed in 110 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 30 PUs; end with 30 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 35 PUs

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 39 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 18 PUs; end with 20 PUs total
            Some Units in 39 Sea Zone change ownership: 1 destroyer and 1 transport

[gamerman01]

No need to thank - one of my top missions in life is to get people to play games properly according to the rules

You should play Monopoly with me  :lol:

[gamerman01]

Almost forgot -
I want to acknowledge that that was a pretty lucky UK1

[gamerman01]

Would like to move 1 infantry from Malaya to Shan…
Even if you’ve started Italy, since it has zero effect on Italy’s turn…

[seth4god]

I’m cool with stuff like that. I’m usually pretty chill about edits and such. So long as I don’t think someone’s trying to cheat or take advantage of something. I’m a little touchy on edits after combat dice though, it depends on the situation. I try to play as if we were facing each other across a table.  You forget stuff and sometimes I’ll let it slide and sometimes I won’t.

[seth4god]

@Gamerman01:

Need to roll 110 here because Triple A does it wrong

Rolls: 1@2 1@3; Total Hits: 01@2: (6)1@3: (5)Rolls: 2@1; Total Hits: 02@1: (2, 4)

Guess this is what I get when I go up against the walking rule book .  … but what exactly is wrong with how triplea does it?