13L G40.2 AllWeNeedIsLove vs Gamerman01 game 4

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 3 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Hopei
                  Chinese take Hopei from Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
            3 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Chahar

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery
                Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
            Battle in Chahar
                Chinese attack with 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese win, taking Chahar from Japanese with 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Kansu

Place Units - Chinese
            3 infantry placed in Suiyuyan
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Chinese to Suiyuyan: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Chinese from Kansu: 1 fighter
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 7 PUs; end with 8 PUs total

[gamerman01]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Nenetsia to 126 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Scotland to 125 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Alexandria to 95 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 battleship moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            2 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
                  British take 93 Sea Zone from Italians
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland
                  British take Italian Somaliland from Italians
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  British take Tobruk from Italians
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria

[gamerman01]

Scramble to 95?

[allweneedislove]

no scramble

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - British
            British buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 destroyer moved from 109 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Nenetsia to 126 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Scotland to 125 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from United Kingdom to 125 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Scotland to 109 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 bomber moved from Alexandria to 95 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 96 Sea Zone to Malta
            1 battleship moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            2 cruisers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 98 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 95 Sea Zone
                  British take 93 Sea Zone from Italians
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from West India to India
            1 infantry moved from Ethiopia to Italian Somaliland
                  British take Italian Somaliland from Italians
            1 armour moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
                  British take Tobruk from Italians
            1 armour moved from Tobruk to Alexandria

Combat - British
            Battle in Malta
            Battle in Norway
                British attack with 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Malta from Italians, taking Norway from Germans with 2 artilleries and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in 126 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 fighter
                Germans defend with 1 transport
                British win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Germans: 1 transport
            Battle in 95 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 1 submarine
                Italians defend with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
                British win with 1 battleship, 1 bomber, 2 cruisers and 2 destroyers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 21
                Casualties for British: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Italians: 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer and 1 transport
            Battle in 125 Sea Zone
                British attack with 1 destroyer and 4 fighters
                Germans defend with 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                British win with 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 22
                Casualties for Germans: 1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Casualties for British: 1 destroyer and 1 fighter
            Battle in India
                British attack with 1 artillery and 3 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
                British win, taking India from Japanese with 1 artillery and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Persia to Russia
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 93 Sea Zone
            1 armour moved from Eastern Persia to Kazakhstan
            1 infantry moved from Iraq to Northwest Persia
                  British take Northwest Persia from Neutral_Allies
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Iraq to Eastern Persia
            1 fighter moved from 126 Sea Zone to Nenetsia
            1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Nenetsia
            1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Nenetsia
            1 fighter moved from 125 Sea Zone to Scotland
            1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 infantry moved from Scotland to United Kingdom
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Alexandria to 98 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 98 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia
            1 infantry moved from Egypt to 81 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 81 Sea Zone to 76 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from Ethiopia to 76 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 76 Sea Zone to 80 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 80 Sea Zone to Eastern Persia
            1 bomber moved from 95 Sea Zone to Trans-Jordan
            1 artillery moved from Egypt to Trans-Jordan
            1 aaGun moved from West India to India
            2 aaGuns moved from West India to India

Place Units - British
            1 transport placed in 109 Sea Zone
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Union of South Africa
            1 bomber placed in Union of South Africa
            1 fighter placed in United Kingdom

Turn Complete - British
            British collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total
            Objective British 1 Original: British met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 41 PUs

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific collect 5 PUs; end with 5 PUs total

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 96 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Libya to Tobruk
                  Italians take Tobruk from British
            1 fighter moved from Southern Italy to 112 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Eastern Poland to Belarus
            1 armour moved from Baltic States to Belarus

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Belarus
                Italians attack with 1 armour and 1 bomber
                Russians defend with 1 artillery
                    Italians roll dice for 1 armour and 1 bomber in Belarus, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 artillery in Belarus, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the Russians lost in Belarus
                Italians win, taking Belarus from Russians with 1 armour and 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
                Casualties for Russians: 1 artillery
            Battle in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the British lost in 96 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 transport
            Battle in 112 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 fighter
                British defend with 2 transports
                    2 transports owned by the British lost in 112 Sea Zone
                Italians win with 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for British: 2 transports

Non Combat Move - Italians
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Tunisia to Libya
            1 fighter moved from 96 Sea Zone to Southern Italy
            1 fighter moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 artillery and 4 infantry moved from Bulgaria to Romania
            1 bomber moved from Belarus to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            3 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Northern Italy

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 5,1
            Italians collect 15 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 15 PUs total

Territory Summary for Italians :

Algeria : 1 flag
    Tunisia : 1 flag
    Western Germany : 1 aaGun, 1 fighter and 3 infantry
    Romania : 1 artillery and 4 infantry
    Tobruk : 1 armour, 1 artillery, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Northern Italy : 1 aaGun, 1 factory_major, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Libya : 1 artillery and 1 infantry
    Southern Italy : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 bomber, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Belarus : 1 flag, 1 armour
    Baltic States : 1 flag
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Greece : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 45 / 60
    Russians : 25 / 28
    Japanese : 52 / 80
    Americans : 54 / 80
    Chinese : 7 / 8
    British : 36 / 41
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 16 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 26
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 1 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 destroyer moved from 54 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from Persia to Russia
            2 infantry moved from Alexandria to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from Dutch New Guinea to New Guinea
            1 armour moved from New South Wales to Queensland
            2 infantry moved from New South Wales to South Australia

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by ANZAC to Queensland: 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by ANZAC from South Australia: 1 aaGun and 4 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 bomber, 1 fighter and 1 infantry placed in New South Wales

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 10 PUs; end with 11 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 16 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 4

Combat Move - French
            1 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            1 infantry moved from United Kingdom to Scotland

[allweneedislove]

you only posted the french combat.

do you want to finisht the turn, or are the other french units not moving?

[gamerman01]

I do that a lot……
No, I was done, sorry, especially if you were wanting to play today

Now don’t go and take over Moscow on me again…

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 15 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            5 bombers moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
                  Germans take Smolensk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Baltic States to Tambov
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Tambov
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Rostov
            2 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Rostov

[allweneedislove]

would you like to lose your planes scramble in sz123?

[gamerman01]

Where in the heck is Z123?

Opening the map…

[gamerman01]

You mean 109…

Yes, I would like to lose 2 fighters and a tac in exchange for 3 or more bombers

Scramble all, and fire away

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 15 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            5 bombers moved from Western Germany to 109 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Bryansk to Novgorod
            1 armour moved from Bryansk to Smolensk
                  Germans take Smolensk from Russians
            1 armour moved from Smolensk to Bryansk
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 infantry moved from Bryansk to Tambov
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Baltic States to Tambov
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Tambov
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Eastern Poland to Rostov
            2 armour moved from Bryansk to Rostov
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Ukraine to Rostov
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Rostov

Combat - Germans
            British scrambles 2 units out of Scotland to defend against the attack in 109 Sea Zone
            British scrambles 1 units out of United Kingdom to defend against the attack in 109 Sea Zone
            Battle in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 5 bombers
                British defend with 2 fighters and 1 transport; Americans defend with 1 tactical_bomber
                    Germans roll dice for 5 bombers in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 :  4/5 hits
                    British roll dice for 2 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport in 109 Sea Zone, round 2 :  3/3 hits
                    1 transport owned by the British , 3 bombers owned by the Germans , 1 tactical_bomber owned by the Americans and 2 fighters owned by the British lost in 109 Sea Zone
                Germans win with 2 bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 3 bombers
                Casualties for British: 2 fighters and 1 transport
                Casualties for Americans: 1 tactical_bomber
            Battle in Tambov
                Germans attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Tambov, round 2 :  2/5 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Tambov, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Tambov
                Germans win, taking Tambov from Russians with 1 fighter, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Germans attack with 1 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    Germans roll dice for 1 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Novgorod, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 armour in Novgorod, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 armour owned by the Russians lost in Novgorod
                Germans win, taking Novgorod from Russians with 1 armour, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Russians: 1 armour
            Battle in Rostov
                Germans attack with 3 armour, 1 fighter, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Germans roll dice for 3 armour, 1 fighter, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers in Rostov, round 2 :  3/10 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Rostov, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Rostov
                Germans win, taking Rostov from Russians with 3 armour, 1 fighter, 4 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 armour moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Tambov to Bryansk
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Novgorod to Bryansk
            2 bombers moved from 109 Sea Zone to Western Germany
            1 fighter and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Rostov to Ukraine

Place Units - Germans
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Ukraine
            10 mech_infantrys placed in Germany
            2 mech_infantrys placed in Western Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 93 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,4
            Germans collect 48 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 48 PUs total
            Objective Germans 2 Control Novgorod Or Volgograd Or Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 53 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield and 1 factory_minor
    Western Germany : 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour, 4 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
    Germany : 2 aaGuns, 1 factory_major and 10 mech_infantrys
    Karelia : 1 flag
    Bryansk : 1 flag, 11 armour, 5 artilleries, 1 fighter, 21 infantry, 3 mech_infantrys and 4 tactical_bombers
    Rostov : 1 flag, 3 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
    Vyborg : 1 flag
    Eastern Poland : 1 flag
    Bessarabia : 1 flag
    Tambov : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    Ukraine : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 fighter, 3 mech_infantrys and 2 tactical_bombers
    Western Ukraine : 1 flag
    Novgorod : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
    Smolensk : 1 flag
    125 Sea Zone : 1 flag
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag
    Finland : 1 flag

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 51 / 53
    Russians : 19 / 28
    Japanese : 52 / 80
    Americans : 54 / 80
    Chinese : 7 / 8
    British : 36 / 41
    UK_Pacific : 5 / 5
    Italians : 16 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 7 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 7 artilleries; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            1 armour moved from Russia to Belarus
                  Russians take Smolensk from Germans
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Nenetsia to Belarus
            1 fighter moved from Nenetsia to Belarus
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 infantry moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 fighter moved from Russia to Tambov
            1 artillery moved from Russia to Tambov
            11 infantry moved from Buryatia to Sakha
            1 submarine moved from 92 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 115 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Belarus
                Russians attack with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                Italians defend with 1 armour
                Russians win, taking Belarus from Italians with 1 armour, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour
            Battle in Tambov
                Russians attack with 1 artillery, 1 fighter and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Tambov from Germans with 1 artillery and 1 fighter remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Germans: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 2 infantry
            Battle in Sakha
                Russians attack with 11 infantry
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Sakha from Japanese with 10 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 aaGuns moved from Buryatia to Sakha
            1 fighter moved from Belarus to Russia
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Belarus to Russia
            6 infantry moved from Novosibirsk to Samara
            1 fighter moved from Tambov to Russia

Place Units - Russians
            7 artilleries placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 23 PUs; end with 23 PUs total

[JDOW]

@Gamerman01:

@allweneedislove:

i took the bait.
would you like to scramble in sz21?

Yeah, that’s kind of a relief.  I was worried about all 14 ground units landing in Australia.
Gotta look.

Hey gamerman and allweneedislove, another match I am following (I am really a big fan of allweneeds J1/J2 abd (I would say successfully so far) copied them in a private game against a friend). Hope you don’t mind asking me some further questions.
T
o my understanding so far the pacific dynamic is imo the most complex and most difficult element in A&A at all.

My question is: I was a bit surprised you were relieved about Japan not dropping 14 ground to Australia. The problem I see with that move is:

• I do not see any chance to successfully take Sidney with these forces without reinformencements which would imo take very long to collect
• the fleet required to protect the transports is then somehow off the action
• Not killing the Guam fighters would imo bring Japan in trouble if US stacks at Caroline (The Carrier SZ would not have to wait for new air to be built)
• Not taking money islands/Malaya could leave Japan with imo too little income once the India boost is used

So strategically I am not sure whether it could be better just to keep Japan strong, hold the US off and throw everything to Europe.

But, I have to say that Europe situation is still unclear to me. So far almost no game I observed (10-20) was won by an Pacific VC for axis. Not sure whether this could be the only chance for Axis to win.

To be honest, while writing the posts I saw more and more benefits of dropping the ground, but I am still not sure whether the “classical” move could still be better?

So I probably just simply ask: Gamerman, you would have dropped the 14 ground to Australia J4?
Allweneedislove: What do you think? Did you miss an opportunity or did you leave it on purpose?

Thanks in advance and best regards,
Tobias

[gamerman01]

@JapanDOWRound1Fan:

So I probably just simply ask: Gamerman, you would have dropped the 14 ground to Australia J4?

Not necessarily  :-)
Allweneed and I often kid around about strategy, as part of our gamesmanship.  Like when Allweneed asked if I wanted to lose my planes in 109 (because he would have liked to have destroyed the transport without a fight)

However, I was in fact worried about him going to Australia, because if he could get to NSW, he would probably win, and I am doing better in Europe than in the past 2 games, so I absolutely did not want to lose this game in the Pacific on round 6 or 7 or whatever!

The worry I had was that I could not counter-attack, so then he could bring in his airforce to land in Australia the following turn, and I think he had a good chance to take the 6th victory city in just a few turns.
Maybe it was a low chance, but it did worry me.
I don’t remember clearly, but I think I left 4 fighters on Guam mainly because it would require several of the transports to go away from South Asia, the money islands, and Australia and would require a fair amount of force to prevent the scramble.  There is no naval base in Guam.  Also, if he ignores Guam, the fighters can get to Queensland in one turn, or could threaten fleet/transports in the area the next turn.

I do not regreat leaving the 4 fighters on Guam even in hindsight.  My philosophy with the Allies is that the Allies need to get involved and need to get the Axis powers to deviate from their main game plan.

So again, if I was actually playing Japan for that turn I would have invaded Australia with all 14 ground units only if I could calculate that I had a high chance of taking and holding NSW for a turn and winning the game.

[JDOW]

Thanks a lot for your detailed reply!
And I agree that the decision cannot be made in the vacuum and depends on the situation in Europe.

I agree that Europe does not look to great this game for Allweneed. Russia seems tough and UK is a real nuisance probably avoiding to get sufficiently grip on Russia while still defending enough in the west.

So I assume you would agree that the attack becomes more attractive the more you depend on a Pacific VC win (which I guess is harder to achieve than Europe). If Europe would be stronger for axis the conservative line would be better because you just want to keep a certain balance in the Pacific not allowing US to throw everything on Europe while have some capacities to threaten Europe from the East.

I do not regreat leaving the 4 fighters on Guam even in hindsight.  My philosophy with the Allies is that the Allies need to get involved and need to get the Axis powers to deviate from their main game plan.

I couldn’t agree more! To use a metapher I would say that you kill the Axis with 5 poisoned small daggers rather than a battle axe ;)

–—
I have an interesting situation in a current game I play against a friend. I am super strong in Europe, Russia will with no doubt fall G5 (We are G3 but it is already really inevitable) and a mistake of my inexperienced opponent would allow me to take Sidney by an 78% chance collecting his 22 income (he saved 8 during his last purchase). However Anzac could retake next turn, so it would be a simple IPC move rather than a VC claim.

I am still reluctant to do it because I - with my little experience -  think that the Japanese fleet or significant parts of it “does not belong” anywhere else but the SZ37,36(naval build), Philippines - Japan - Caroline - triangle.
Get the money islands, stay strong and threaten India to fall and thus threaten to support Germany from the East once Moscow falls and Axis plays for Egypt to win. Seems the safest option to me but time will tell :)
I am furthermore reluctant to invade Anzac because the move could have so easily be prevented by a blocking move and it does not help me to get better to exploit moves an experienced player would never ever have allowed.

Good luck to both of you, I have to say that in this game I tend to bet on the allies if I had to^^

[allweneedislove]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 4 destroyers, 2 infantry, 6 mech_infantrys and 3 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 21 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 6 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 55 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 45 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 21 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
                  Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
            3 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 artillery moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
            2 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 21 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 battleship and 1 carrier moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Kweichow to Shensi
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Kiangsu to Chahar
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kiangsu to Hopei
            2 artilleries and 1 infantry moved from Burma to India
            1 cruiser moved from 42 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 42 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 bomber moved from Kiangsi to Chahar
            1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Chahar
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Hopei
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Shensi
            4 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Yunnan to India
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Shensi
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Chahar
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to India

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Sumatra
            Battle in Celebes
            Battle in Philippines
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries and 6 infantry
                Americans defend with 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 battleship and 2 cruisers in Philippines, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 2 infantry in Philippines, round 2 :  2/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Japanese and 2 infantry owned by the Americans lost in Philippines
                Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Philippines from Americans with 2 artilleries and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 2 infantry
            Battle in Shensi
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 2 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shensi, round 2 :  0/5 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shensi, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shensi, round 3 :  2/5 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 2 infantry in Shensi, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Shensi
                Japanese win, taking Shensi from Chinese with 1 fighter, 2 infantry, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Chinese: 2 infantry
            Battle in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 45 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 45 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Chahar
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 3 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 2 :  2/6 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 3 infantry in Chahar, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the Chinese and 2 mech_infantrys owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in Chahar, round 3 :  2/4 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Chahar, round 3 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Chahar
                Japanese win with 2 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -9
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 2 mech_infantrys
                Casualties for Chinese: 3 infantry
            Battle in Hopei
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Chinese defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 mech_infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hopei, round 2 :  1/3 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Chinese and 1 mech_infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Hopei
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -1
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
            Battle in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 2 fighters in 34 Sea Zone, round 2 :  2/3 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 34 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 2 fighters and 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer in 55 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the ANZAC lost in 55 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 destroyer
            Battle in 33 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 transport
                    1 transport owned by the Americans lost in 33 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 33 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/1 hits
                Japanese win with 1 submarine remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Americans: 1 transport
            Battle in India
                Japanese attack with 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                British defend with 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry; UK_Pacific defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
                    AA fire in India :  0/7 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in India, round 2 :  5/10 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry in India, round 2 :  0/3 hits
                    2 infantry owned by the British and 3 aaGuns owned by the British lost in India
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in India, round 3 :  6/10 hits
                    UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 artillery in India, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    1 artillery owned by the British lost in India
                Japanese captures 5PUs while taking UK_Pacific capital
                Japanese win, taking India from UK_Pacific with 2 artilleries, 4 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 25
                Casualties for British: 3 aaGuns, 1 artillery and 2 infantry

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            2 infantry moved from Shan State to Burma
            3 mech_infantrys moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
            1 mech_infantry moved from Kwangtung to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 55 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 45 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 34 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Chahar to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Chahar to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from Hopei to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Yunnan
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Shensi to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from India to Yunnan
            2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers moved from India to Shan State
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Yunnan

Place Units - Japanese
            3 mech_infantrys placed in French Indo China
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Kiangsu
            2 infantry placed in Japan
            4 destroyers and 3 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 66 PUs; end with 71 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 3 Control Honolulu Or Sydney Or Calcutta Or Western United States: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 76 PUs
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 81 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Shantung : 1 flag
    Kwangsi : 1 flag
    Kiangsu : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 3 mech_infantrys
    Kiangsi : 1 flag
    Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Jehol : 1 flag
    Manchuria : 1 flag
    Shensi : 1 flag, 2 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 2 bombers, 3 fighters, 4 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers
    Kweichow : 1 flag
    Hunan : 1 flag
    Szechwan : 1 flag
    Anhwe : 1 flag, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    Shan State : 1 flag, 2 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers
    Burma : 1 flag, 2 infantry
    India : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Malaya : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Borneo : 1 flag
    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 harbour and 4 infantry
    Guam : 1 flag, 1 airfield
    Soviet Far East : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Amur : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry
    Siberia : 1 flag
    Buryatia : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 3 mech_infantrys
    Celebes : 1 flag, 1 artillery
    Java : 1 flag
    Sumatra : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    41 Sea Zone : 1 transport
    44 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 2 fighters, 2 tactical_bombers and 1 transport
    45 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    33 Sea Zone : 1 submarine
    35 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 cruisers and 4 transports
    34 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine
    6 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters, 3 submarines and 1 transport
    55 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 53
    Russians : 21 / 23
    Japanese : 66 / 81
    Americans : 52 / 80
    Chinese : 6 / 8
    British : 36 / 41
    UK_Pacific : 2 / 0
    Italians : 15 / 15
    ANZAC : 10 / 16
    French : 8 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0