Omega1759 (Axis) vs. Paksos (Allies) - No Bid

[Gargantua]

I’ve been reviewing both games Paksos…

Do you want a formal debrief after the games?  Things to look for, things to try differently?

That said, I have to say that I learned something very interesting from watching your play.  Specifically how you have held Leningrad in our game, and probably will for another 2 turns… a very interesting ploy indeed!

[Omega1759]

I did like how Paksos made use of the Siberian troops in our game. I really did not want China to push forward while seeing the Russians come back in Amur. That was a good move and could work against a Japanese player with less experience.

Paksos needs to tweak his UK play a bit. If you play as aggressive with UK in face of a player that is ready for Sealion, Russia has gotta be more aggressive.

As America, don’t focus on transports and troops until you can adequately protect them.

[Paksos]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians repair 6 damage on 6 factory_minors; Remaining resources: 48 PUs;
            Russians buy 1 bomber, 8 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians
            2 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            1 bomber moved from Russia to Novgorod
            3 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Eastern Poland
            1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States

Combat - Russians
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Russians attack with 3 artilleries and 4 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Russians win, taking Eastern Poland from Germans with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 12
                Casualties for Germans: 1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Novgorod
                Russians attack with 2 bombers and 2 infantry
                Germans defend with 1 airfield, 1 factory_minor, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
                Russians win, taking Novgorod from Germans with 2 bombers and 2 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry

Non Combat Move - Russians
            2 bombers moved from Novgorod to Western Ukraine
            6 infantry moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            2 aaGuns moved from Bryansk to Western Ukraine
            7 infantry moved from Russia to Bryansk
            8 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            4 armour moved from Belarus to Bryansk

Place Units - Russians
            1 bomber placed in Russia
            3 mech_infantrys placed in Volgograd
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            5 infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 32 PUs; end with 32 PUs total

[Paksos]

That’s as far as I can do today guys, off to my sister’s for a BBQ this afternoon so I’ll post again on Monday night.

Feedback is very helpful, Omega - Garg any debrief/feedback you wanna give after the games (or during!) is immensely appreciated. Be brutal  :wink:

[Paksos]

Also, Omega - Get your German butt out of the Motherland!

[Omega1759]

This is what you want, ah?

Everything in its time and its place… :lol:

[Omega1759]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 armour, 3 artilleries, 4 infantry, 2 mech_infantrys and 1 transport; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 unit repaired.
            5 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            5 infantry and 3 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Iwo Jima to 17 Sea Zone
            6 infantry and 3 transports moved from 17 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from 33 Sea Zone to Caroline Islands
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from 35 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Burma
                  Japanese take Burma from UK_Pacific
            2 fighters moved from Malaya to Borneo
            1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
            1 transport moved from 36 Sea Zone to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from French Indo China to Borneo
            2 battleships moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 carriers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 36 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 tactical_bombers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Hunan to Anhwe
            1 mech_infantry moved from Jehol to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            2 fighters moved from Hunan to Anhwe
            2 tactical_bombers moved from French Indo China to Anhwe
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            1 armour moved from Yunnan to Anhwe
            1 armour moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Timguska
                  Japanese take Yenisey from Russians
                  Japanese take Timguska from Russians
            1 infantry moved from Siberia to Soviet Far East
                  Japanese take Soviet Far East from Russians
            1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            1 infantry moved from Sakha to Amur
            1 fighter moved from French Indo China to Anhwe
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Yunnan to Anhwe

Combat - Japanese
            Battle in Caroline Islands
            Battle in Philippines
            Battle in 41 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 transport
                Japanese win, taking Caroline Islands from Americans, taking Philippines from Americans with 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 transport
            Battle in Borneo
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers, 2 fighters and 2 infantry
                ANZAC defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Japanese win with 2 bombers and 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 1
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in Anhwe
                Japanese attack with 1 armour, 1 artillery, 5 fighters, 2 infantry, 4 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers
                Chinese defend with 8 infantry
                Japanese win, taking Anhwe from Chinese with 1 armour, 5 fighters, 4 mech_infantrys and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 14
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 8 infantry
            Battle in Java

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            2 fighters moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Borneo to French Indo China
            2 destroyers moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 41 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Yunnan to 42 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Jehol
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Anhwe to Jehol
            2 fighters moved from Anhwe to Yunnan
            1 fighter moved from Anhwe to Jehol

Place Units - Japanese
            1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Japan
            1 transport placed in 6 Sea Zone
            1 armour and 2 mech_infantrys placed in Manchuria
            1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in French Indo China
            1 armour, 1 artillery and 1 infantry placed in Malaya

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 56 PUs; end with 56 PUs total

[Omega1759]

Good shooting in Borneo, reminds me of the opening round in Kwangtung. All these situations make India much stronger than it ought to be.

Many opportunities are emerging for Japan in the Pacific.

Japan has a good chunk of Russian income coming through, can’t complain about that.

[Omega1759]

Other advice:

Transports are the Axis’ lifeblood. They create initiative and they are expensive units to replace. Always look for opportunities to destroy them. Another tactic is to add to your navy / airforce to neutralize this threat. If you add to your Navy / Airforce, you force the Axis to match your purchases to protect their fleet.

Always look for opportunities to kill planes. In Garg’s game, you had the opportunity to pick up one Italian bomber and 1 fighter by dropping troops and raiding with planes.

Don’t invade until you can hold / benefit from it (especially in Europe). On the Pacific theater, it’s good to trade Islands with Japan, but only if you can sink the transport that will take the island back (hence the importance of maintaining a strong navy / airforce in the area).

[Gargantua]

I’ve also noticed that you tend to use a fall-back defense style… when in fact, you could put up defenses that would basically prevent an attack by me.

India is a good example, you have 16+ units sitting there protecting nothing (India not under significant threat), and also threatening nothing.  They should all have moved to Burma two and three turns ago, with only just enough left in India to prevent it’s capture.

Also… understand income, and NO’s.  This entire game is about $.  If you play for the money - regardless of capitals etc, in general you will win.

I’ve noticed a few times that Russia did not capitalize on it’s NO’s… or on possible attacks.

Do you have Skype? I could go over a few other things too.

[Paksos]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 battleship, 1 destroyer and 9 submarines; Remaining resources: 5 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 transports moved from 105 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 105 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 93 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport moved from 95 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            4 submarines moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to Western United States
            3 bombers moved from Central United States to Western United States

Place Units - Americans
            1 destroyer placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 battleship and 9 submarines placed in 10 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 1
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 89 Sea Zone. Rolls: 1,5
            Americans collect 51 PUs (1 lost to blockades); end with 56 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 66 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 76 PUs

[Paksos]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 4 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Kweichow to Hunan
                  Chinese take Hunan from Japanese

Combat - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Chahar to Hopei
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Kweichow

Place Units - Chinese
            4 infantry placed in Hunan

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 10 PUs; end with 10 PUs total

[Paksos]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - UK_Pacific
            UK_Pacific buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - British
            1 artillery moved from Tobruk to 96 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Malta to 96 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 96 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 93 Sea Zone to 92 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 92 Sea Zone to Morocco
            1 destroyer moved from 93 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 96 Sea Zone to 97 Sea Zone
            4 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from India to Burma
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from India to Burma
            4 infantry moved from India to Burma
            1 infantry moved from India to Burma

Combat - British
            Battle in Burma
                British attack with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 9 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Japanese defend with 1 infantry
                British win, taking Burma from Japanese with 4 artilleries, 2 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for British: 1 infantry
            Battle in Morocco
                British attack with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Italians defend with 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry
                British win, taking Morocco from Italians with 1 artillery and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 10
                Casualties for Italians: 1 armour and 1 mech_infantry

Non Combat Move - British
            1 artillery moved from Alexandria to Tobruk
            3 infantry moved from Egypt to Alexandria
            2 infantry moved from Anglo Egyptian Sudan to Egypt
            2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to India
            3 aaGuns moved from India to Burma

Place Units - UK_Pacific
            1 fighter placed in India

Turn Complete - UK_Pacific
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 4
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 43 Sea Zone. Rolls: 6,3,4,3,6,3
            UK_Pacific collect 6 PUs (4 lost to blockades); end with 6 PUs total
            Some Units in India change ownership: 1 fighter

[Paksos]

Cheers for the feedback, guys - any more stuff you have (“Paksos you did x. That was obscenely stupid” is valid criticism  :-D) is much appreciated

Am learning a lot in these games, would be interested to play again once these are over to see if I can apply some lessons! (Obviously Russia is going to smash your puny armies anyhoo…… )

[Paksos]

I think biggest problem I’m having with these games is loss of London - UK is my favourite power to play as and I tend to be very UK-centric in my Allies outlook. Losing London blew all my plans right out of the water!

[Omega1759]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - Italians
            Italians buy 1 fighter; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Italians
            1 submarine moved from 89 Sea Zone to 101 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Algeria to Morocco
            1 bomber moved from Algeria to Morocco

Combat - Italians
            Battle in Morocco
                Italians attack with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 4 infantry
                British defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
                Italians win, taking Morocco from British with 2 artilleries, 1 bomber and 4 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for British: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
            Battle in 101 Sea Zone
                Italians attack with 1 submarine
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                Americans win with no units remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Italians: 1 submarine
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer

Non Combat Move - Italians
            3 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            2 artilleries moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            2 armour moved from Greece to Romania
            1 aaGun moved from Greece to Bulgaria
            1 bomber moved from Morocco to Southern Italy

Place Units - Italians
            1 fighter placed in Southern Italy
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Northern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Yugoslavia: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 2 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Italians from Southern Italy: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Italians to Northern Italy: 1 artillery
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Italians
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 3
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 2,4,1,4,4
            Italians collect 10 PUs (3 lost to blockades); end with 10 PUs total

[Omega1759]

@Paksos:

Cheers for the feedback, guys - any more stuff you have (“Paksos you did x. That was obscenely stupid” is valid criticism  :-D) is much appreciated

Am learning a lot in these games, would be interested to play again once these are over to see if I can apply some lessons! (Obviously Russia is going to smash your puny armies anyhoo…… )

I warned you about the US fleet.

Although I see that there is a decent fleet / air force threatening Hawaii now.  :-D

[Paksos]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Purchase Units - ANZAC
            ANZAC buy 1 artillery, 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 infantry moved from Libya to Tunisia
                  ANZAC take Tunisia from Italians

Combat - ANZAC

Non Combat Move - ANZAC
            1 destroyer moved from 61 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 bomber moved from Queensland to New South Wales
            1 infantry moved from Western Australia to South Australia

Place Units - ANZAC
            1 artillery placed in New South Wales
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer placed in 62 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - ANZAC
            ANZAC collect 16 PUs; end with 16 PUs total
            Objective ANZAC 2 Control Strategic Islands: ANZAC met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 21 PUs

[Paksos]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 6

Combat Move - French

Non Combat Move - French

Turn Complete - French

[Omega1759]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round: 7

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 2 artilleries, 2 fighters, 8 infantry and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Northern Italy to Eastern Poland
            2 submarines moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from 110 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Western Germany to Eastern Poland
            2 artilleries and 4 infantry moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
            1 armour moved from Finland to Karelia
                  Germans take Karelia from Russians
            1 armour moved from Karelia to Finland
            1 armour moved from Finland to Vyborg
                  Germans take Vyborg from Russians
            1 armour moved from Vyborg to Finland
            1 transport moved from 127 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone

Combat - Germans
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Germans attack with 2 fighters and 2 submarines
                Americans defend with 2 destroyers
                Germans win with 2 fighters and 2 submarines remaining. Battle score for attacker is 16
                Casualties for Americans: 2 destroyers
            Battle in Eastern Poland
                Germans attack with 2 artilleries, 3 fighters and 4 infantry
                Russians defend with 3 artilleries and 3 infantry
                Germans win, taking Eastern Poland from Russians with 1 artillery and 3 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 5
                Casualties for Germans: 1 artillery and 4 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 3 artilleries and 3 infantry

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from Eastern Poland to Romania
            3 mech_infantrys moved from Poland to Romania
            2 armour moved from Poland to Romania
            2 fighters moved from Eastern Poland to Germany
            8 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            1 armour moved from Southern France to Greater Southern Germany
            2 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 1 cruiser and 1 submarine moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 artilleries moved from Holland Belgium to Western Germany
            2 infantry moved from Western Germany to Germany
            1 armour moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to 110 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 8 transports moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to France
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
            1 transport moved from 110 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone

Place Units - Germans
            1 submarine placed in 112 Sea Zone
            2 fighters placed in Western Germany
            2 artilleries and 8 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 2
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 97 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,1,5,3
            Germans collect 52 PUs (2 lost to blockades); end with 52 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs