@nikola1975 Not that I need more problems, but my attack on the small fleet near UK was rather pathetic.
one hit. OOL?
you have a whole lot of bad luck heading your way pal. :evil:
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 3
Politics - Germans
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
Germans take Karelia from Russians
1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
Germans take Vyborg from Russians
1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
Germans take Baltic States from Russians
1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to 114 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 3
Politics - Germans
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Germans and Russians from Neutrality to War
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and British from Neutrality to Allied
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and French from Neutrality to Allied
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Axis To War With Russians: Changing Relationship for Russians and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral
Germans takes Political Action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese
Germans succeeds on action: Political Action Germans To War With Chinese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Chinese from Neutrality to War
Purchase Units - Germans
Germans buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 7 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Germans
1 submarine moved from 112 Sea Zone to 114 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 112 Sea Zone to 125 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Western Germany to 114 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
Germans take Karelia from Russians
1 infantry moved from Finland to Vyborg
Germans take Vyborg from Russians
1 infantry moved from Poland to Baltic States
Germans take Baltic States from Russians
1 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
Germans take Eastern Poland from Russians
1 infantry moved from Romania to Bessarabia
Germans take Bessarabia from Russians
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Poland to 114 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Western Germany to 125 Sea Zone
Combat - Germans
Battle in 114 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 2 tactical_bombers
Russians defend with 1 cruiser
Germans roll dice for 1 submarine in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits
Germans roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 3/5 hits
Russians roll dice for 1 cruiser in 114 Sea Zone, round 2 : 1/1 hits
1 cruiser owned by the Russians and 1 submarine owned by the Germans lost in 114 Sea Zone
Germans win with 3 fighters and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Germans: 1 submarine
Casualties for Russians: 1 cruiser
Battle in 125 Sea Zone
Germans attack with 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
Russians defend with 1 submarine
Russians roll dice for 1 submarine in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits
Germans roll dice for 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 125 Sea Zone, round 2 : 2/5 hits
1 submarine owned by the Russians lost in 125 Sea Zone
Germans win, taking 125 Sea Zone from Neutral with 2 bombers, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Russians: 1 submarine
Non Combat Move - Germans
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber could not land in Eastern Poland and were removed
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Morocco
1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 109 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 109 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 112 Sea Zone to 113 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Germany to 113 Sea Zone
1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to 113 Sea Zone
1 aaGun, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 113 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Western Germany to 112 Sea Zone
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 112 Sea Zone to Norway
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 125 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Southern Italy to Romania
1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 1 fighter, 3 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Romania to Eastern Poland
2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Slovakia Hungary to Eastern Poland
6 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Greater Southern Germany to Eastern Poland
1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from Poland to Eastern Poland
1 aaGun, 3 artilleries and 5 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Germany
1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to Western Germany
1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to 112 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 114 Sea Zone to Western Germany
2 tactical_bombers moved from 114 Sea Zone to Poland
1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Finland to Karelia
2 bombers moved from 125 Sea Zone to Western Germany
3 armour moved from Greece to Romania
5 infantry moved from Greece to Bulgaria
Place Units - Germans
1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
Germans undo move 1.
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Germans from 91 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Adding units owned by Germans to 109 Sea Zone: 1 submarine
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
1 carrier and 1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 3 infantry placed in Western Germany
4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Germany
Turn Complete - Germans
Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs total
Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
hello?
sorry i’m here. not playing other games until cow is in the ground. shouldn’t be long.
the freshmaker
:mrgreen:
@Infrastructure:
the freshmaker
:mrgreen:
:-) thanks
fresh
cow is officially dead. time to get back to the league games!!
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 3
Politics - Russians
Russians takes Political Action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians
Russians succeeds on action: Political Action Russians To War With Italians: Changing Relationship for Italians and Russians from Neutrality to War
Purchase Units - Russians
Russians buy 2 armour, 3 artilleries and 3 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Russians
2 fighters moved from Russia to Baltic States
1 infantry moved from Belarus to Baltic States
1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bessarabia
2 fighters moved from Russia to Bessarabia
2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys moved from Sikang to Suiyuyan
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Burma to French Indo China
1 infantry moved from Amur to Siberia
Russians take Siberia from Japanese
Combat - Russians
Battle in Suiyuyan
Russians attack with 2 armour and 4 mech_infantrys
Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Russians win, taking Suiyuyan from Japanese with 2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 mech_infantry
Battle in Bessarabia
Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians win with 2 fighters remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
Battle in Baltic States
Russians attack with 2 fighters and 1 infantry
Germans defend with 1 infantry
Russians win, taking Baltic States from Germans with 2 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Germans: 1 infantry
Battle in French Indo China
Russians attack with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
Japanese defend with 1 artillery
Russians win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 4
Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery
Trigger Russians Conquer Japanese Territory By Mongolia: Setting switch to false for conditionAttachment_Mongolia_May_Change_To_Russians_Control_Switch attached to Russians
Non Combat Move - Russians
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from French Indo China to Yunnan
1 infantry moved from Caucasus to Northwest Persia
2 mech_infantrys moved from Volgograd to Northwest Persia
1 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
2 fighters moved from Bessarabia to Bryansk
1 artillery and 8 infantry moved from Western Ukraine to Bryansk
2 aaGuns, 2 artilleries and 11 infantry moved from Belarus to Novgorod
2 fighters moved from Baltic States to Novgorod
6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
1 mech_infantry moved from Volgograd to Sikang
Place Units - Russians
2 armour and 3 mech_infantrys placed in Russia
3 artilleries placed in Novgorod
Turn Complete - Russians
Russians collect 33 PUs; end with 33 PUs total
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
3 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
1 artillery moved from Hunan to Kweichow
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Hopei
1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Shan State
1 bomber moved from Siam to Shan State
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Kweichow
1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Hopei
us sub submerge in sz62?
first round sub fights.
if you miss, keep running it until you are either dead or hit, at which time, ask me for a casualty choice.
my sub hit
Ok lose my sub
TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Japanese
Japanese buy 1 artillery, 1 carrier, 5 infantry and 2 submarines; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;
Combat Move - Japanese
1 infantry moved from Malaya to 37 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Guam to 21 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 21 Sea Zone to 44 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 44 Sea Zone to Celebes
1 artillery moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 34 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from Paulau Island to 34 Sea Zone
1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 34 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 42 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 37 Sea Zone to 41 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 41 Sea Zone to Sumatra
1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
1 infantry moved from 43 Sea Zone to Borneo
1 tactical_bomber moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry moved from Siam to Shan State
3 fighters moved from 37 Sea Zone to Java
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Kweichow
1 artillery moved from Hunan to Kweichow
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Hopei
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Hopei
1 infantry moved from Sakha to Buryatia
Japanese take Buryatia from Russians
1 bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Shan State
1 bomber moved from Siam to Shan State
2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Kweichow
1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kweichow
1 bomber moved from Kweichow to Hopei
Combat - Japanese
Japanese creates battle in territory 62 Sea Zone
Battle in Borneo
Battle in Kweichow
Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
Chinese defend with 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers in Kweichow, round 2 : 3/6 hits
Chinese roll dice for 1 artillery and 1 infantry in Kweichow, round 2 : 0/2 hits
1 artillery owned by the Chinese and 1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Kweichow
Japanese win, taking Borneo from UK_Pacific, taking Kweichow from Chinese with 1 artillery, 2 fighters, 1 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
Casualties for Chinese: 1 artillery and 1 infantry
Battle in Sumatra
Battle in Celebes
Battle in Java
Japanese attack with 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
ANZAC defend with 2 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 artillery, 3 fighters, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Java, round 2 : 3/6 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 2 infantry in Java, round 2 : 2/2 hits
2 infantry owned by the ANZAC , 1 infantry owned by the Japanese and 1 fighter owned by the Japanese lost in Java
Japanese win, taking Sumatra from Dutch, taking Celebes from Dutch, taking Java from ANZAC with 1 artillery, 2 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -7
Casualties for Japanese: 1 fighter and 1 infantry
Casualties for ANZAC: 2 infantry
Battle in Hopei
Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
Chinese defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Hopei, round 2 : 2/4 hits
Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Hopei, round 2 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the Chinese lost in Hopei
Japanese win, taking Hopei from Chinese with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for Chinese: 1 infantry
Battle in 62 Sea Zone
Japanese attack with 1 submarine
ANZAC defend with 1 destroyer and 1 transport; Americans defend with 1 submarine
ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 62 Sea Zone, round 2 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 62 Sea Zone, round 3 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 4 : 1/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 62 Sea Zone, round 4 : 0/1 hits
1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 62 Sea Zone
Japanese roll dice for 1 submarine in 62 Sea Zone, round 5 : 0/1 hits
ANZAC roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 transport in 62 Sea Zone, round 5 : 1/1 hits
1 submarine owned by the Japanese lost in 62 Sea Zone
ANZAC win with 1 destroyer and 1 transport remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
Casualties for Japanese: 1 submarine
Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
Battle in Shan State
Japanese attack with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
British defend with 1 infantry
Japanese roll dice for 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Shan State, round 2 : 3/4 hits
UK_Pacific roll dice for 1 infantry in Shan State, round 2 : 0/1 hits
1 infantry owned by the British lost in Shan State
Japanese win, taking Shan State from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
Casualties for British: 1 infantry
Non Combat Move - Japanese
1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from Shan State to 42 Sea Zone
1 destroyer and 1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 battleship and 1 cruiser moved from 21 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Korea
1 infantry moved from Anhwe to Chahar
2 fighters moved from Kwangsi to 6 Sea Zone
1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Hopei to Anhwe
2 fighters moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
2 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Anhwe
1 artillery moved from Kwangtung to Kiangsi
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Kiangsi
1 infantry moved from Kiangsu to Anhwe
1 artillery moved from Hunan to Kiangsi
1 artillery moved from Hunan to Anhwe
1 bomber moved from Hopei to Kiangsi
1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Kiangsi
1 bomber and 1 fighter moved from Shan State to Kiangsi
1 carrier moved from 37 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
1 fighter moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 43 Sea Zone
Place Units - Japanese
1 carrier and 2 submarines placed in 6 Sea Zone
Turning on Edit Mode
EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Anhwe: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Kiangsi: 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
3 infantry placed in Kiangsu
1 artillery and 2 infantry placed in Manchuria
Turn Complete - Japanese
Japanese collect 60 PUs; end with 60 PUs total
Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 65 PUs
TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7
Game History
Round: 3
Purchase Units - Americans
Americans buy 1 carrier, 2 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 tactical_bombers; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;
Combat Move - Americans
2 bombers and 2 tactical_bombers moved from Western United States to 7 Sea Zone
5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 7 Sea Zone to 5 Sea Zone
1 destroyer moved from 5 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 submarine moved from 16 Sea Zone to 17 Sea Zone
Americans take 17 Sea Zone from Japanese
1 submarine moved from 17 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 battleship and 3 carriers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
2 bombers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
2 cruisers moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
3 destroyers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 bomber moved from Midway to 6 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 infantry and 2 transports moved from 7 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
1 armour, 1 artillery and 2 infantry moved from 6 Sea Zone to Japan
well, infra, time to fight!
kami choice needed in z6
the way i calculate it, even if every single one of your kami’s hits, you are 80% to lose
tokyo here. but you know, my bad luck is legendary so we will have to see how it goes.