13L G40 Boldfresh (+9) vs. Hobo - game 3

[boldfresh]

so, you have lost 2 ftrs so far - which 2 ftrs have you lost?

[hobo]

lose germans first

[boldfresh]

alright your acc’s missed.  so here is what we are left with.

attacker:  sub, 4 ftr, 5 bom
defender: 8 fighters (6 italian, 2 german)

since i have a sub and you have no boats, i don’t remember off hand if your transports die automatically or if they only die one at a time if my sub hits.

to be safe, i will just roll for the sub as well.

round 3

attacker:

sub
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

4 ftr
Rolls: 4@3; Total Hits: 14@3: (4, 6, 1, 6)

5 bom
Rolls: 5@4; Total Hits: 45@4: (6, 4, 2, 2, 1)

defender:

8 ftr
Rolls: 8@4; Total Hits: 58@4: (5, 2, 4, 1, 6, 4, 5, 1)

[boldfresh]

ok now we are left with:

attacker

sub
Rolls: 1@2; Total Hits: 01@2: (5)

4 bombers
Rolls: 4@4; Total Hits: 44@4: (1, 4, 4, 2)

defender

3 italian ftrs
Rolls: 3@4; Total Hits: 33@4: (2, 3, 4)

[boldfresh]

ok the sub now kills your trannies and i win the battle with 1 bomber - you agree with all that?

[boldfresh]

i’m going to roll through using tripleA to finish up the battle and will
edit to match the forum rolls.  disregard the dice.

[hobo]

not unusual you win 10-20% battles against me, how many is this already

no wonder you pushed that russian battle into utterly useless rounds

[boldfresh]

well be glad we finished it on the forum and not in marti - i saved an extra 3 bombers in the tripleA battle (may have been only 2 if the acc rolled a 3 or 4).  :roll:

[boldfresh]

nope the acc rolled a “6”.  so you actually got lucky there that we finished it on the forum.
sucks cuz i need all the help i can get.

[boldfresh]

ok, we have an issue… amazingly.

by accident, i took the 2 transports into the battle.  go any issue with saying those were not moved in the combat move but instead just sat still in z125?

[boldfresh]

this is where “Me1945” would probably INSIST that the transports WERE moved in combat and therefore MUST remain in z110.  :roll: :roll:

[boldfresh]

@hobo:

not unusual you win 10-20% battles against me, how many is this already

no wonder you pushed that russian battle into utterly useless rounds

dude, i don’t know how to tell you this, but that russian attack…  forget it, it’s just not going to get through to you.  i’m done trying.

i think you and Me1945 should play, you would be a great match for each other.  :lol:

but seriously, you should check out what he is asserting in our game, pretty comical.

i’m almost certain you will not have an issue with me accidentally taking the transports in with the rest of the fleet (shift + click) when there was ZERO reason to take them in.  however, i guess i had better ask.

[hobo]

yes once you cleared my air and had any units left my transports are dead. didn’t need that sub since you had a bomber left anyways

and yes you can relocate your transports

[boldfresh]

thanks i appreciate your reasonableness in this matter.

regarding my sub question, what i was getting at is this:  my sub kept firing and you had no boats to defend.  if i had retreated after round 3 where my sub fired and missed, would your transports have survived?  i think the answer is yes.  so since i had the sub, if my air had gotten defeated i would have sunk your trannies of course.  but what i was getting at is would i still have killed your trannies if i retreated before defeating your air.  i think the answer is no, i would not have killed them, to kill them i would have to continue the air battle… what do you think?

[boldfresh]

i mean, i could still have killed them and still retreated before defeating
your air, but ONLY if the sub had hit twice during the battle rounds after
round 2.

[hobo]

if your sub hit while the battle was going on, a transport would have died.

your sub wouldn’t automatically kill when I still had units defending.  if both of our air wiped, your sub would have then killed both transports automatically

[boldfresh]

@hobo:

if your sub hit while the battle was going on, a transport would have died.

your sub wouldn’t automatically kill when I still had units defending.  if both of our air wiped, your sub would have then killed both transports automatically

Yep I think thats right.

[hobo]

I see where you going, since my air can’t hit your sub and eventually you’d hit, but you had to stay in the battle. if you retreated you would have to retreat with the sub as well.

[boldfresh]

@hobo:

I see where you going, since my air can’t hit your sub and eventually you’d hit, but you had to stay in the battle. if you retreated you would have to retreat with the sub as well.

Agreed

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.7

Game History

Round: 10

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 armour, 1 bomber, 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 9 mech_infantrys; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            7 infantry moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            3 fighters moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 transports moved from 125 Sea Zone to 110 Sea Zone
            5 bombers and 3 fighters moved from Norway to 110 Sea Zone

Combat - Americans
            Italians scrambles 3 units out of Holland Belgium to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            Italians scrambles 3 units out of Normandy Bordeaux to defend against the attack in 110 Sea Zone
            Battle in British Columbia
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 7 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys
                Japanese defend with 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Americans win, taking British Columbia from Japanese with 3 fighters, 6 infantry and 2 mech_infantrys remaining. Battle score for attacker is 7
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 artillery and 2 infantry
                Casualties for Americans: 1 infantry
            Battle in 110 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 5 bombers, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters, 2 submarines and 2 transports
                Germans defend with 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 submarine; Italians defend with 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 2 transports
                Units damaged: 2 carriers owned by the Italians
                Americans win with 4 bombers, 1 submarine and 2 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 66
                Casualties for Germans: 3 destroyers, 4 fighters and 1 submarine
                Casualties for Italians: 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 2 transports
                Casualties for Americans: 1 bomber, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers, 6 fighters and 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 110 Sea Zone: 3 bombers
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 117 Sea Zone: 2 transports
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from 117 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to 126 Sea Zone: 1 transport
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 bomber moved from 110 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 fighters moved from British Columbia to Western United States
            4 aaGuns moved from Western United States to British Columbia
            1 submarine moved from 106 Sea Zone to 109 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 106 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 armour and 1 infantry placed in Norway
            1 bomber placed in Eastern United States
            1 fighter and 9 mech_infantrys placed in Western United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Total Cost from Convoy Blockades: 9
                Rolling for Convoy Blockade Damage in 10 Sea Zone. Rolls: 3,4,3,5,4,6,6,1,4,4,2
            Americans collect 41 PUs (9 lost to blockades); end with 41 PUs total
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 46 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 56 PUs