I went when I was really young. I think I mainly visited resorts and amusement parks.
Environment against Navy …
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With the exception of TG and GI, you guys are just bizaare. Although i’m not a USie, i think that America should take care of its deficit and healthcare situation first, internal security second, and after helping to end poverty and preventable diseases THEN it might consider such silly, irresponsible, marine destroying persuits as covering the oceans with sonar. I don’t even see why this is America’s duty, or in her best interests. It is world-dominating persuits like this that sets America up as a target by everyone else.
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you cant end poverty. unless you plan on making a communism, there will always be poverty. period. no other economic system can survive without poverty, it would collapse.
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The waters belong to whoever has he biggest guns.
Not if said biggest guns aren’t around to shoot. :wink:
With the exception of TG and GI, you guys are just bizaare.
Obviously, I’m not trying hard enough. :P
Of course its not their responsibility to patrol the entire ocean, but if they can, they should, and if they cant, then increase their size until they can
Do you have any idea how much that would cost?
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Of course its not their responsibility to patrol the entire ocean, but if they can, they should, and if they cant, then increase their size until they can
All at the taxpayers’ expense, right?
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Damn Straight!
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I agree. We spend more money on worse things than this… :P
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So your plan is to take all the money that we’re spending stupidly now, and spend it on monitoring the oceans with sonar?
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well if you want gas at a dollar :wink: :roll: ….
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Im just being stubborn. Actually, Id rather the Army have that money, they are better than the Navy :wink: .
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From what I have heard, some people think the sonar will hurt the environment. I don’t see why they can’t put one of the units out and monitor it before everone starts jumping to conclusions. Hell, for all we know the cute little fishies will just stay away from the things. And hey you never know it might kill the hell out of tuna then we could just scoop 'em up and can 'em. After all, tuna are ugly and they taste yummy.
Fish <> Mammals
And it is not “jumping conclusions”. There have been investigations on the mass strandings of whales and dolphins. They are severely (say lethally) affected by sonar.
Just because you don’t know the facts, doesn’t mean that all the others are “jumping to conclusions” :-? -
yea, but its fun to say
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Look, the problem here is that nobody wants to give in to the environmentalists. Now, if the Navy came out and said, “Look, we don’t need to patrol 100% of the oceans, we’ll limit ourselves to 60% because we don’t need to.” Then that would be one thing, but to have environmentalists tell them that they need to stop is rediculous. If you give the treehuggers the 60% they want, they’ll ask for 50%, then 40%. They’ll keep taking until we can’t touch the environment at all.
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IMHO, I have no respect for enviromentalists, I think they are the biggest hypocrits of all. I think they should all be shot. And when you think about it, its good for the enviroment.
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IMHO, I have no respect for enviromentalists, I think they are the biggest hypocrits of all. I think they should all be shot. And when you think about it, its good for the enviroment.
Are we talking about anybody who enjoys the outdoors, or the radical Greenpeace/PETA types?
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@Grigoriy:
IMHO, I have no respect for enviromentalists, I think they are the biggest hypocrits of all. I think they should all be shot. And when you think about it, its good for the enviroment.
Are we talking about anybody who enjoys the outdoors, or the radical Greenpeace/PETA types?
Greenpeace tyes I think :wink: ….
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Yeah, shoot 'em. :wink:
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Hahaha, wheat is murder… :lol:
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I am surprised that you call greenpeace “radical”… bz the same measure you should rethink wether you then are a radical militarist, nationalist and gun-proponent…
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In that case, maybe I am…
(Never said I wasn’t)
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falk, you can call me any kind of radical you like (as long as its true, i wont stand for lies). but at least im not some enviromentalist radical a**hole who thinks its wrong for humans to live on earth because it “disturbs nature”. i mean, for a prime example, greenpeace people protest oil drilling, by going out to oil rigs in diesel-powered boats……
Hello?Ive seen SUV protesters getting honks from people driving SUVs, and waving back, all happy. I mean, come on. I have absolutely no respect for them. If you are into helping the enviroment, you know, doing your part and all, thats fine. i myself recycle, i try to not be wasteful, you know? im not all eco-happy, but im not some polluting redneck either. and all those greenpeace and peta types (especially the vegans and vegetarians (for reasons being it means killing an animal) should be shot. period.
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