I went when I was really young. I think I mainly visited resorts and amusement parks.
Drones
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I agree that drone strikes are simply another long range weapon and I am not saying that the pilots have no honor.
I am not going to open the other can of worms that you’ve correctly identified.
Fair enough- I am not trying to be combative, just debating. Thanks for your input.
We’re good. We’re in the same game and the same page of the rulebook. :-)
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Skip extremism. From an objective/historical/factual point of view, Islam in general is a more accurate description.
It’s definetly over the 50% hump.
You really think that the western world is at war with over 50% of Muslims? Wow, I hope that’s not the case- something like 1.6 Billion people in the world are Muslim…
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Skip extremism. From an objective/historical/factual point of view, Islam in general is a more accurate description.
It’s definetly over the 50% hump.
You really think that the western world is at war with over 50% of Muslims? Wow, I hope that’s not the case- something like 1.6 Billion people in the world are Muslim…
If it weren’t for Garg being 'Nadian, I’d say we’re American: we’re at war with everything.
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Skip extremism. From an objective/historical/factual point of view, Islam in general is a more accurate description.
It’s definetly over the 50% hump.
You really think that the western world is at war with over 50% of Muslims? Wow, I hope that’s not the case- something like 1.6 Billion people in the world are Muslim…
If it weren’t for Garg being 'Nadian, I’d say we’re American: we’re at war with everything.
Nah, we aren’t at war with Easter Island.
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Nah, we aren’t at war with Easter Island.
That is only because your Generals could not find it on a map!
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Skip extremism. From an objective/historical/factual point of view, Islam in general is a more accurate description.
It’s definetly over the 50% hump.
You really think that the western world is at war with over 50% of Muslims? Wow, I hope that’s not the case- something like 1.6 Billion people in the world are Muslim…
Well lets look at the last few years…
Iraq - Muslim Nation
Afghanistan - Muslim Nation
Iran (Bombings / Assassinations / Rhetoric) - Muslim Nation
Libya (Supporting rebels / air campaign) - Muslim Nation
Syria (Just watch today’s news, "America’s next step in Syria) Muslim Nation
Yugoslavia/Bosnia - Muslim Nation
Somalia - Muslim NationYou’re right, I don’t see anything in common (Sarcasm).
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Well lets look at the last few years…
Iraq - Muslim Nation
Afghanistan - Muslim Nation
Iran (Bombings / Assassinations / Rhetoric) - Muslim Nation
Libya (Supporting rebels / air campaign) - Muslim Nation
Syria (Just watch today’s news, "America’s next step in Syria) Muslim Nation
Yugoslavia/Bosnia - Muslim Nation
Somalia - Muslim NationYou’re right, I don’t see anything in common (Sarcasm).
Iraq- technically we are not at war with them now
Afghanistan- technically we are not at war with them, but we are fighting the Taliban
Iran- no
Libya- yes there was a quick war here
Syria- I doubt we put troops on the ground here
Yugoslavia/Bosnia- haven’t been at war there for a while…There are a ton of muslim-majority nations:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Muslim-majority_countriesSo, yes, we are at war with far less than 50% of Muslims.
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Not to mention the majority of those we initiated…but that won’t stop Garg from rejecting reality.
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Not to mention the majority of those we initiated…but that won’t stop Garg from rejecting reality.
Oh so America initated 9/11?
I was unaware.
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Well lets look at the last few years…
Iraq - Muslim Nation
Afghanistan - Muslim Nation
Iran (Bombings / Assassinations / Rhetoric) - Muslim Nation
Libya (Supporting rebels / air campaign) - Muslim Nation
Syria (Just watch today’s news, "America’s next step in Syria) Muslim Nation
Yugoslavia/Bosnia - Muslim Nation
Somalia - Muslim NationYou’re right, I don’t see anything in common (Sarcasm).
Afghanistan- technically we are not at war with them, but we are fighting the Taliban
Taliban- Muslim
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Killing people with Drones in Pakistan, and Yemen
Pakistan - Muslim
Yemen - MuslimIran does also qualify.
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Oh and what’s the U.S. committment in Mali? I know the french sent troops there?
Oh wait
http://www.presstv.ir/detail/2013/05/01/301242/us-deploys-troops-in-mali-backing-french/
US Deploys troops in Mali - Muslim Nation
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Let’s look at this a different way… how many non-muslim nations are we in -conflict- with?
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Let’s look at this a different way… how many non-muslim nations are we in -conflict- with?
Canada are in conflicts right now? oh oh ,I should watch more news I guess.
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Let’s look at this a different way… how many non-muslim nations are we in -conflict- with?
How many governments of non-oil producing Muslim nations are we in conflict with? Are the conflicts actually about religion? Are the real motivations of the terrorists being obscured (both to them and us) to hide the class conflicts they are really rooted in?
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Not to mention the majority of those we initiated…but that won’t stop Garg from rejecting reality.
Oh so America initated 9/11?
I was unaware.
Yes, because nothing ever happened in those regions prior to 9/11. So, right you are.
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No offense Garg, that’s some primitive reasoning.
This is not aimed specifically at you but this is my rant for the last decade of American foreign policy.
Most people in Muslim nations are just trying to live their lives without be killed by autocratic dictators or Islamists. I have spent a good part of my adult life fighting against some of the poorest people in the world and I honestly can’t say what for. I know they had nothing to do with attacks against America. The guys who planned 9/11 fled Afghanistan years ago, leaving illiterate locals to die for them. There is really nothing honorable or noble about what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan and the last decade have made me realize our foreign policy makes no fucking sense.
Okay, so we are at war with the Muslims or terrorists or whatever.
So what are we doing in Syria? Why are we arming Salafist rebels against a secular dictatorship?
Why do we knowingly allow people who pose security risks into our country?
What did overthrowing Saddam Hussein accomplish? Iraq isn’t even a strong US ally. It now has a Shiite prime minister with close ties to Iran. Was that really worth trillions of dollars?
Isn’t it funny how most of our problems with Islamic terrorism come from Saudi backed Wahhabis and Salafists. Guess how many of the 9/11 attackers were Saudi themselves?
At the end of the day, the War on Terror is nothing more than a sad attempt to find a new foreign enemy now that the Soviet Union is history. How can you wage war against a military concept or a religion with millions of adherents?
You are more likely to be murdered by black or hispanic gangsters than get killed in an Islamic terrorist attack. Look up the statistics. Yet I don’t see anyone advocating droning the shit out of ghettos. The biggest threat to our lives is our own out of control government and failing economy.
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No offense Garg, that’s some primitive reasoning.
This is not aimed specifically at you but this is my rant for the last decade of American foreign policy.
Most people in Muslim nations are just trying to live their lives without be killed by autocratic dictators or Islamists. I have spent a good part of my adult life fighting against some of the poorest people in the world and I honestly can’t say what for. I know they had nothing to do with attacks against America. The guys who planned 9/11 fled Afghanistan years ago, leaving illiterate locals to die for them. There is really nothing honorable or noble about what we did in Iraq and Afghanistan and the last decade have made me realize our foreign policy makes no ����ing sense.
Okay, so we are at war with the Muslims or terrorists or whatever.
So what are we doing in Syria? Why are we arming Salafist rebels against a secular dictatorship?
Why do we knowingly allow people who pose security risks into our country?
What did overthrowing Saddam Hussein accomplish? Iraq isn’t even a strong US ally. It now has a Shiite prime minister with close ties to Iran. Was that really worth trillions of dollars?
Isn’t it funny how most of our problems with Islamic terrorism come from Saudi backed Wahhabis and Salafists. Guess how many of the 9/11 attackers were Saudi themselves?
At the end of the day, the War on Terror is nothing more than a sad attempt to find a new foreign enemy now that the Soviet Union is history. How can you wage war against a military concept or a religion with millions of adherents?
You are more likely to be murdered by black or hispanic gangsters than get killed in an Islamic terrorist attack. Look up the statistics. Yet I don’t see anyone advocating droning the ���� out of ghettos. The biggest threat to our lives is our own out of control government and failing economy.
I totally agree with all of your sentiments.
But not acknowledging that for whatever reason, there is a large group of “Islamic Extremists” or whatever it is your choose to call them - out their trying to kidnap, exploit, kill, or otherwise eliminate Americans, Westerners, and even Europeans is a serious lack of judgement.
Anyways, Harry,
You want to know what it’s all about at the end of the day? And what you’ve spent your life fighting for? What American soldiers risk thier lives every day for? The status quo. And the price ain’t cheap.
Let me clarify - For America to Stay #1 in the world, to be the power on the top (which is a good thing for the average world citizen), for America/the-west to have that voice of reason, and to be the world police, America/the-west pays in blood. That’s it, and we don’t want that to change.
Ask yourself this: If the US Military, sank all thier boats, disabled all their planes, and melted down all their guns and tanks tomorrow. What would the world look it?
Let me tell you, it would be total chaos. Every despot and their dog would be out their carving a new empire for themselves, and hundreds of thousands, if not millions would die. That’s what makes the status quo important.
As for Iraq, Afghanistan, and many other places, and why we’re there… the real reason is simple. In maintaining the status quo (which saves lives) you have to deal with the opponents to the status quo, and there is a price to pay in blood. and more or less, it’s better to fight those fights over there, than it is to fight those fights here at home.
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No offense Garg, that’s some primitive reasoning.
Violence is primitive and often without reason. I stand by my claims.
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No offense Garg, that’s some primitive reasoning.
Violence is primitive and often without reason. I stand by my claims.
That’s how I feel about your posts. But I still read them. :wink:
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