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Malaya J1

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SunTzu7
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I’m trying to formulate my strategy for my next Global 1940 game and I’m looking to see how I can take Malaya on J1. It look slike it’s limited to strategic bombers and the navy in Sz20. Is that all I can use?
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ghr2
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Yea, u will even have difficulties with that battleship, so malaya is near impossible.
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wheatbeer '17
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The strategic bombers can reach SZ37, but not Malaysia.

The odds of capturing Malaysia on J1 is just 3%.
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@simon33:

Why don’t you just build a third fighter in Calcutta to defend against sbr? It is well spent.

Because I am worrying about a quick J3 Indian Crunch. I am preparing for the following Japanese movement:
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This should just be enough to defend India. If I build a UK fighter in India, then I don’t have enough infantry to defend India.

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[[to counter J1 attack, no matter Germany goes for sealion or barbarossa]]
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Sz39 transport 1 inf to Persia
India 5 inf, 1 art=> Burma
Burma fighter=> India
Malaya 3 inf => Shan state
India build 5 inf

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UK2: (consider the case J1 take Borneo, build 3 transports; J2 build MIC and NB in FIC; move 3 transports to sz36)
Burma 7 inf, 1 art => India
Shan state 3 inf => Burma
India build 4 inf
(if no Sealion, build Persia factory)

ANZAC2: Shan state inf => Burma

Turn 3:
China: aim at taking Yunnan

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I haven’t had much success with strategies like the one proposed except when Germany spends some of its money on fleet. That gives ussr a bit ight breathing room to do something.

But I agree with you, in case Germany goes for barbarossa, Russia should focus on wars in Eastern Front. Again Yunnan and India worries me. The above implies that China should defend J3 take and hold Yunnan by itself…
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@Spendo02:

Much of that assertion is based on play testing of the Allies moving to defend Hawaii in the first round.

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