I went when I was really young. I think I mainly visited resorts and amusement parks.
Frozen pizza
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That’s fairness, I wouldn’t say that’s entitlement.
Family means that if I cook, then the husband does the dishes, the kids set and clear the table. Division of labor, fairness.
Family means we all live in this house, therefore we all clean this house. Kids do less cleaning obviously, and half the time we have to reclean it because they are not practiced yet, but they still have chores.
Family means if the dog poops in the house, then whoever finds it cleans it up - with help if needed - without help if small enough. Sh!t happens, literally, get it done.Entitlement is like Social Security. You pay a few dollars in and feel entitled to collect for the rest of your life.
Entitlement is feeling that you should be able to get a home mortgage even without the ability to pay it back.Just a couple examples of what I feel are entitlement.
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@Imperious:
That is never my point. I was saying they have really nice restaurants ( at least in my area) that prepare very healthy meals, which taste better than you can make at home and no mess to clean up.
You can pay alot and still get crap or eat at home and still eat crap. Yes some restaurants add alot of really bad ingredients to make it taste better, but you just got to avoid those.
You can also be a selfless asshole AND HAVE KIDS. Don’t fool yourself.
Certainly there are, but it’s not the aim for meals at restaurants. Sure, they are getting into the healthier option now, but the number 1 reason we go out to eat is for taste. Also, anyone that goes out an orders just salads should kill themselves.
You have far more control over your diet and nutrition at home. Some restaurants don’t even have nutritional info or will tell you the ingredients.
Also, I’m more talking about raising kids. Nearly anyone can have kids, that’s not the hard part.
You can be fooled by that, but what really is going on is time is money for some people. It is not really a lack of ability but in some cases like anything else it can be.
Money is also money to everyone. You can’t get a better deal eating at home. I understand: no dishes, certain dishes can’t be made without investing in hardware/ingredients, exotic stuff that takes some time to get the recipe down. Some people don’t change their oil even though it’s easy. I get that. But we’re talking about a fundamental need for everyone - it seems silly to never ever cook. If you can get by, go for it, but you better learn quick when the zombie apocalypse comes.
Yes it’s liberating to be able to push the ON button. Agreed
Yeah…even that kit isn’t as simple as you say. Too bad I don’t use that crap. I go all grain and in a much larger quantity (around 6-7 gallons). It typically takes about 6 hours to do, and is more or less cooking. But it’s probably Greek to you.
And it’s dumb to say a woman can only be liberated by having a career.
That is not what I’m saying. My point is rather that being a stay at home mom who expects her husband to cook his own meals is not liberated. It is just picking and choosing the parts of equality she likes and passing off the rest. Even women with jobs seem to think the proper division of labor regarding meals is:
They cook, they clean up.
She cooks, man cleans up.
Man cooks, man cleans up.
That’s entitlement, not liberation.
Now NAWALT. Now granted perhaps some of the child rearing duties (rides to practices and lessons for example) might interfere with cooking but that isn’t what I was referring to. My objection is not to women’s liberation but to feminine double standards.
I was more referring to IL, and mostly agree with you, but let’s not bunch all radical feminists with women here. In my experience, it’s been mostly equitable: whoever doesn’t cook gets to clean up. Of course certain favors may change that rule…
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Yeah…even that kit isn’t as simple as you say. Too bad I don’t use that crap. I go all grain and in a much larger quantity (around 6-7 gallons). It typically takes about 6 hours to do, and is more or less cooking. But it’s probably Greek to you.
I would also advise anyone interested in brewing at home not to waste their time with The Beer Machine or Mr. Beer and so on. If you’re just going to go extract you can do much better than what you get with those things at a reasonable compromise on time and quality with all-grain homebrewing.
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BEER to me is Big Flats. Really helps bring out the yeast flavor in pan pizza too! (6 cans for $2.90 US is really a decent price, and it’s rated very high in Consumer Reports so it’s not bargain basement either!)
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@Cmdr:
BEER to me is Big Flats. Really helps bring out the yeast flavor in pan pizza too! (6 cans for $2.90 US is really a decent price, and it’s rated very high in Consumer Reports so it’s not bargain basement either!)
That price point is what teenagers drink and that is the definition of bargain basement. A beer costs that much even in a dive bar. There’s probably more unused hops in my freezer than hops in that swill. There’s probably more beer in my piss.
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Yeah…even that kit isn’t as simple as you say. Too bad I don’t use that crap. I go all grain and in a much larger quantity (around 6-7 gallons). It typically takes about 6 hours to do, and is more or less cooking. But it’s probably Greek to you.
I would also advise anyone interested in brewing at home not to waste their time with The Beer Machine or Mr. Beer and so on. If you’re just going to go extract you can do much better than what you get with those things at a reasonable compromise on time and quality with all-grain homebrewing.
It might be a decent way just to get an idea of things, but you’re right on the kits. All grain is a fair jump for someone who hasn’t done anything before.
@Cmdr:
BEER to me is Big Flats. Really helps bring out the yeast flavor in pan pizza too! (6 cans for $2.90 US is really a decent price, and it’s rated very high in Consumer Reports so it’s not bargain basement either!)
That price point is what teenagers drink and that is the definition of bargain basement. A beer costs that much even in a dive bar. There’s probably more unused hops in my freezer than hops in that swill. There’s probably more beer in my p�ss.
LMAO…the review of 2befree that gave it 5/5 on all categories. Score deviation of the average by 95.3%
What hops are you using these days? I just got my delivery of 4lbs of hops: Simcoe, Nugget, CTZ, Warrior.
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I haven’t made time to brew of late and probably won’t this summer again. Hopefully I’ll do my knockoff of Old Fezziwig again this holiday season. Big fan of Kent Goldings as I like to brew a British Bitter.
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Consumer Reports and I both like it. Far better than that swill Budweiser/Miller call beer! And at the price, well, you cant really beat the price, can you? I mean without getting the aluminum can with the word BEER written in black letters on it….
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I just made frozen pizza. First time this month? Fast meal tastes ok.
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You should drink a 2 liter Mountain Dew with that…It’s very healthy.
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who knows whats in Mcdonalds food…… :wink:
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who knows whats in Mcdonalds food…… :wink:
especially when it comes to the “all natural” chicken nuggets……
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who knows whats in Mcdonalds food…… :wink:
The patties are 100% ground beef, it’s advertised so they have to do it or face tons of lawsuits. The buns, however, I am convinced are formed from cardboard and high fructose corn syrup and nothing else. (hey, just cause you advertise all beef patties doesn’t mean any of the rest of your food is normal!)
@Imperious:
You should drink a 2 liter Mountain Dew with that…It’s very healthy.
You leave my Mt. Dew alone, buddy. It carried me through more than one semester of college! (and other things.) BTW, I topped out my caffiene addiction at 6 servings of monster, 84 ounces of coffee (10.5 servings I believe) and 2 liters of diet coke (8 servings.) Since then, I’ve cut way back to ONLY two pots of coffee!
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Fine print is important. Our patties contain 100% ground beef. That is in our patties, they contain 10% ground beef and that 10% is 100%! Or is it 100% ground beef products? Ie butts and bones are part of a cow so 100% ground beef products.
I do eat McDonalds, like once or twice per month, after two hours in the gym……
Eat meat and veggies and more veggies than meat, limit sugars and carbs (soon to be sugars).
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I think they actually advertise 100% ground beef.
Despite all those myths out there, none of our meat is fake! McDonald’s uses only 100% USDA-inspected beef from real beef cattle to make our burger patties.
~ mcd.com
Granted, they get the cows from S. America and ship them frozen, in bulk, to the US.
However, you will see no claim that their buns are made from 100% real USDA-inspected grains, or are whole grains, or are not gelatinized, congealed high fructose corn syrup with three tablespoons of salt on them… Not that I could prove that they are, but all I know is, if you eat a cheeseburger (you know, the original?) you seem to gain 14 pounds and are ravenous in moments…or maybe it’s just me?
And Subway’s no better! Google it, the reports about unclean machinery and unwashed food is INSANE for them too!
That said, eat what you want to eat. FFS guys, it’s the United States of America! If you want to live on frozen pizza, live on frozen pizza! If you want to be a vegetarian, well, just keep in mind vegetarians are food for carnivores in the case of a global food epidemic, such as Nuclear War when the plants die off. :P
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@Cmdr:
I think they actually advertise 100% ground beef.
Despite all those myths out there, none of our meat is fake! McDonald’s uses only 100% USDA-inspected beef from real beef cattle to make our burger patties.
~ mcd.com
Granted, they get the cows from S. America and ship them frozen, in bulk, to the US.
However, you will see no claim that their buns are made from 100% real USDA-inspected grains, or are whole grains, or are not gelatinized, congealed high fructose corn syrup with three tablespoons of salt on them… Not that I could prove that they are, but all I know is, if you eat a cheeseburger (you know, the original?) you seem to gain 14 pounds and are ravenous in moments…or maybe it’s just me?
And Subway’s no better! Google it, the reports about unclean machinery and unwashed food is INSANE for them too!
That said, eat what you want to eat. FFS guys, it’s the United States of America! If you want to live on frozen pizza, live on frozen pizza! If you want to be a vegetarian, well, just keep in mind vegetarians are food for carnivores in the case of a global food epidemic, such as Nuclear War when the plants die off. :P
Yes, but the meat is junk quality. Subway is a bit better, but you’re talking about individual stores cleanliness vs. ingredient makeup for the national chain. Subway on the whole is much healthier.
Also, I’m a cannibal if she’s cute enough. :evil:
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Fine print is important. Our patties contain 100% ground beef. That is in our patties, they contain 10% ground beef and that 10% is 100%! Or is it 100% ground beef products? Ie butts and bones are part of a cow so 100% ground beef products.
I do eat McDonalds, like once or twice per month, after two hours in the gym……
Eat meat and veggies and more veggies than meat, limit sugars and carbs (soon to be sugars).
100% of the time, 10% of the time! :P
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Junk beef is still beef, however.
And Subway’s problems are not just the store level, it’s the national processing centers where the machines are routinely left unclean for multiple weeks (like 2 or 3) and they’re supposed to be cleaned every 3 days, or the last day of the week if less than 3 (so like Wednesday and Friday if they are not in use on Saturday)
Subway USED to be healthy, when it was deli meat, now it’s processed meat with loads of fat and salt sent to the stores from central processing centers - or is my experience. It’s getting hit HARD on the news out here too, which doesn’t mean squat, our “news” is probably the least objective, most biased pieces of crud ever to be on the airways. Talking LOCAL not necessarily national here.
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All this talk about McDonald’s…. I just went there for lunch - double cheese burger, greasy salty fries and a Coke for 3.95 (after tax)
Sure was yummy. I certainly don’t consider it health food, but not convinced it’s half as bad as some of you restaurant snobs are trying to say :-)
And I do NOT get hungry in an hour like Jenn does. Only Chinese food does that for me, and it’s mainly because I don’t like Chinese food so don’t eat much.
As far as news, Jenn, I hear you but keep in mind we’ve never lived in a closed Communist or Fascist country. We may be headed that direction, but we’re still pretty far from it.
But yeah, I’m totally with you there - don’t assume the news is objective or without agenda and don’t blindly accept it as the truth! -
At least mcdonalds out here doesn’t dump 50 pounds of salt per pound of fries like Wendy’s does out here.
Remember, I live in The People’s Republic of Illinois. We’re just like Detroit, but 40 years lagging in progress!
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