13L G40 Gamerman01 (allies) vs Last Jack (axis +6)

[Last Jack]

intercept?

[gamerman01]

Heck no, too many Germans

3:1

[Last Jack]

I didn’t think so but felt obligated to ask.

[Last Jack]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Politics - Germans

Purchase Units - Germans
            Germans buy 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 12 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Germans
            3 bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 112 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from France to United Kingdom
            2 tactical_bombers moved from Western Germany to United Kingdom

Combat - Germans
            Air Battle in United Kingdom
                Germans attacks with 9 units heading to United Kingdom
                Air Battle is over, the remaining Bombers go on to their targets
            Strategic bombing raid in United Kingdom
                    AA guns fire in United Kingdom :  3/7 hits
                1 bomber and 2 tactical_bombers killed by AA guns
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 4,5 and causes: 6 damage to unit: harbour
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom rolls: 3,6 and causes: 9 damage to unit: factory_major
                Bombing raid in United Kingdom causes 15 damage total.  Damaged units is as follows: harbour = 6, factory_major = 9
            Cleaning up after air battles

Non Combat Move - Germans
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to 112 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 tactical_bomber moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 fighter moved from United Kingdom to Holland Belgium
            1 aaGun moved from Western Germany to Holland Belgium
            1 armour and 1 mech_infantry moved from Normandy Bordeaux to Western Germany
            1 artillery moved from Southern France to France
            1 mech_infantry moved from Southern France to Yugoslavia
            5 armour, 10 artilleries and 3 infantry moved from Germany to Poland
            2 armour moved from Western Germany to Poland
            1 mech_infantry moved from Holland Belgium to Germany

Place Units - Germans
            1 destroyer placed in 112 Sea Zone
            1 fighter placed in Western Germany
            3 infantry placed in France
            9 infantry placed in Germany

Turn Complete - Germans
            Germans collect 44 PUs; end with 44 PUs total
            Trigger Germans 5 Swedish Iron Ore: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 49 PUs
            Objective Germans 1 Trade with Russia: Germans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 54 PUs

Territory Summary for Germans :

Normandy Bordeaux : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    Southern France : 1 flag, 1 factory_minor and 1 harbour
    France : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 artillery, 1 factory_minor and 3 infantry
    Western Germany : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 2 fighters, 1 harbour and 2 mech_infantrys
    Romania : 3 armour, 2 artilleries and 13 infantry
    Poland : 3 aaGuns, 7 armour, 13 artilleries and 16 infantry
    Germany : 1 factory_major, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Holland Belgium : 1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    112 Sea Zone : 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers, 1 fighter, 1 submarine, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
    Bulgaria : 1 flag
    Yugoslavia : 1 flag, 1 mech_infantry
    Finland : 1 flag, 7 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 54
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 32 / 42
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 6 / 6
    British : 29 / 30
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 14 / 19
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[Last Jack]

Ouch

[gamerman01]

@Last:

I didn’t think so but felt obligated to ask.

It’s ok - I wasn’t poking fun for asking
Always give your opponent a chance to make the wrong decision!

[gamerman01]

Oh, that’s right.  Triple A doesn’t do split SBR’s right.  You had very bad luck with the AA so we won’t worry about it

It let you pick which bombers you would lose, right?  Because it shouldn’t roll all the AA together.  Each facility shoots only at the planes it’s facing.

In other words, if the IC AA hits twice, you have to lose 2 strat bombers because there are no tac bombers.

The error in Triple A gives a big advantage to the attacker because he gets to choose which air is hit by the AA before allocating to targets.  Right?

What I’m saying is, in the future you should roll SBR on the forum, and make sure your opponents do the same.
Do you understand what I’m trying to explain?

[gamerman01]

@Gamerman01:

What I’m saying is, in the future you should roll SBR on the forum, and make sure your opponents do the same.

Clarification:
This is only necessary when you have bombers attacking more than one facility.

[gamerman01]

Holy cow, when I tested it in local, I got FOUR hits out of 7
Not a good night to fly over AA I guess

Yes, Triple A definitely does it dead wrong.

Since you took off 1 strat bomber (and of course because you took 3 losses total) I am OK with the result.

Had you selected 3 tacs and did 20 damage to the IC we might have issues….

All that said, are you OK with continuing as is?

[Last Jack]

I understand. A very expensive lesson learned.  :-)

Funny I was thinking that if we rerolled you might hit 4 or 5 out of 7.  :-D

[gamerman01]

I was thinking about offering a re-roll where you take a minimum of 1 loss or a maximum of 3, but you did get decent damage rolls (harbor maxed)

I think the attack was a good idea, by the way, except I would only send 1 tac at each facility to keep AA exposure down, and because it doesn’t add to your max potential damage…

[gamerman01]

Getting late - maybe resume this fun tomorrow

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Russians
            Russians buy 1 armour, 9 infantry and 1 mech_infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Russians

Non Combat Move - Russians
            6 infantry moved from Yenisey to Timguska
            2 aaGuns and 12 infantry moved from Yakut S.S.R. to Yenisey
            2 infantry moved from Rostov to Bryansk
            3 infantry moved from Ukraine to Bryansk
            2 mech_infantrys moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 armour moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            1 artillery moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            2 aaGuns moved from Belarus to Novgorod
            1 infantry moved from Novgorod to Belarus
            11 infantry moved from Bryansk to Belarus
            1 armour and 3 mech_infantrys moved from Russia to Belarus
            1 submarine moved from 109 Sea Zone to 123 Sea Zone

Place Units - Russians
            3 infantry placed in Ukraine
            3 infantry placed in Novgorod
            1 armour, 3 infantry and 1 mech_infantry placed in Russia

Turn Complete - Russians
            Russians collect 37 PUs; end with 37 PUs total

[Last Jack]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 artilleries, 2 destroyers and 6 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Kansu
                  Japanese take Kansu from Chinese
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 mech_infantry moved from Suiyuyan to Shensi
                  Japanese take Shensi from Chinese
            1 artillery and 3 infantry moved from Hopei to Shensi
            1 infantry moved from Yunnan to Szechwan
                  Japanese take Szechwan from Chinese
            1 infantry moved from Hunan to Kweichow
                  Japanese take Kweichow from Chinese

Combat - Japanese

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 armour, 1 artillery, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 2 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers moved from Kwangsi to Yunnan
            2 artilleries and 2 infantry moved from Hunan to Yunnan
            3 infantry moved from Japan to 6 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Korea to 6 Sea Zone
            4 infantry and 2 transports moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            4 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            2 transports moved from 36 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            2 transports moved from 20 Sea Zone to 6 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to 19 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 19 Sea Zone to 20 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 20 Sea Zone to Kiangsi
            2 infantry moved from Manchuria to Jehol
            3 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            2 destroyers moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            2 artilleries and 6 infantry placed in Japan
            2 destroyers placed in 6 Sea Zone

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 36 PUs; end with 36 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 1 Trade With America: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 46 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Kwangsi : 1 artillery and 5 infantry
    Kiangsi : 2 infantry
    Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 6 infantry
    Jehol : 2 infantry
    Siam : 2 infantry
    Manchuria : 1 aaGun and 5 infantry
    Hainan : 1 harbour
    Shensi : 1 flag, 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 1 armour, 5 artilleries, 2 bombers, 6 fighters, 5 infantry and 5 tactical_bombers
    Suiyuyan : 1 flag
    Kweichow : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Hunan : 1 flag
    Kansu : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Hopei : 1 flag
    Szechwan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Chahar : 1 flag
    Anhwe : 1 flag
    36 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 4 destroyers, 2 fighters, 2 submarines, 2 tactical_bombers and 2 transports
    20 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 1 carrier, 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 1 transport
    16 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer
    6 Sea Zone : 2 destroyers and 4 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 44 / 54
    Russians : 37 / 37
    Japanese : 36 / 46
    Americans : 52 / 52
    Chinese : 2 / 6
    British : 29 / 30
    UK_Pacific : 17 / 17
    Italians : 14 / 19
    ANZAC : 10 / 10
    French : 9 / 0
    Dutch : 11 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 2 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 2 / 0
    Neutral_True : 18 / 0

[arathorn]

Did Axis really get a bid of 6 in this game? I am very curious as to why?

[gamerman01]

@arathorn:

Did Axis really get a bid of 6 in this game? I am very curious as to why?

Because that is what we agreed to, of course.

But I think this is more what you’re looking for - it’s a handicap

I gave out a +21 bid to the Allies and a +19 bid to the Allies in AA50-41 also.  I won both of them.
I don’t think small bids are as influential as most do, apparently.

[arathorn]

I feel you and agree with you. I just give people the bid so that I can be the Axis. One battle roll can even out a huge bid.

[gamerman01]

@arathorn:

I feel you and agree with you. I just give people the bid so that I can be the Axis. One battle roll can even out a huge bid.

Amen to that

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 1 artillery, 2 destroyers, 2 infantry, 2 submarines and 2 transports; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans

Non Combat Move - Americans
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            1 infantry moved from Hawaiian Islands to 26 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 armour, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 31 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 destroyers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            2 cruisers moved from 54 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Western United States to Hawaiian Islands
            1 submarine moved from 10 Sea Zone to 26 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 63 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Wake Island to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Guam to 33 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Wake Island to Hawaiian Islands
            2 bombers moved from Wake Island to Hawaiian Islands
            2 destroyers moved from 26 Sea Zone to 33 Sea Zone
            1 mech_infantry moved from Western United States to Central United States
            1 infantry moved from Southeast Mexico to Central America
            1 carrier moved from 101 Sea Zone to 102 Sea Zone
            1 fighter moved from Eastern United States to 102 Sea Zone

Place Units - Americans
            1 artillery placed in Western United States
            1 transport placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer placed in 10 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer, 1 submarine and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
            Americans undo move 4.
            1 destroyer and 1 transport placed in 101 Sea Zone
            1 submarine placed in 101 Sea Zone
            2 infantry placed in Central United States
            Note to player Americans: America has joined the Allies, and declared war on the Axis!
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Japanese and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Chinese and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for British and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for UK_Pacific and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for ANZAC and Americans from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and French from Neutrality to Allied
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Dutch from Neutrality to Friendly
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Germans and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Italians and Americans from Neutrality to War
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Allies from Neutrality to Friendly_Neutral
            Trigger Americans War Japanese: Changing Relationship for Americans and Neutral_Axis from Neutrality to Unfriendly_Neutral

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 52 PUs; end with 52 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 57 PUs
            Objective Americans 4 Philippines: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 62 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 67 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 77 PUs

[gamerman01]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :3

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 2 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese
            7 infantry moved from Sikang to Shensi
            1 fighter moved from Burma to Shensi

Combat - Chinese
            Battle in Shensi
                Chinese attack with 1 fighter and 7 infantry
                Japanese defend with 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Chinese win, taking Shensi from Japanese with 1 fighter and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Japanese: 2 artilleries, 4 infantry and 1 mech_infantry
                Casualties for Chinese: 6 infantry

Non Combat Move - Chinese
            1 fighter moved from Shensi to Tsinghai

Place Units - Chinese
            2 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 3 PUs total