13L G40 Boldfresh vs. hobo (allies +5)

[hobo]

both to carrier

[boldfresh]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Japanese
            Japanese buy 2 factory_minors, 4 fighters and 1 submarine; Remaining resources: 0 PUs; 6 SuicideAttackTokens;

Combat Move - Japanese
            1 infantry moved from Korea to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Manchuria
            1 infantry moved from Amur to Buryatia
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 6 Sea Zone to Buryatia
            3 fighters moved from Japan to Manchuria
            2 infantry moved from French Indo China to Siam
            1 infantry moved from Shan State to Malaya
                  Japanese take Malaya from UK_Pacific
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 bombers moved from Kwangsi to 46 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer and 2 submarines moved from 6 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Sumatra to 41 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 41 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon
            1 infantry moved from Hopei to Suiyuyan
            1 cruiser and 1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 battleship moved from 36 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 destroyer moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to 39 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Kwangsi to Siam
            1 fighter moved from Kweichow to 39 Sea Zone
            5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Kweichow to Suiyuyan
            1 carrier moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone

Combat - Japanese
            ANZAC scrambles 2 units out of Queensland to defend against the attack in 54 Sea Zone
            Battle in Manchuria
                Japanese attack with 3 fighters and 2 infantry
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 3 fighters and 2 infantry in Manchuria, round 1 :  1/5 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Manchuria, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Manchuria
                Japanese win, taking Manchuria from Chinese with 3 fighters and 1 infantry remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber
                Americans defend with 1 submarine
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 1 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 35 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 submarines in 35 Sea Zone, round 4 :  0/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 35 Sea Zone, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 destroyer and 1 tactical_bomber in 35 Sea Zone, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans lost in 35 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking 35 Sea Zone from Americans with 1 destroyer, 2 submarines and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 6
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine
            Battle in Suiyuyan
                Japanese attack with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers in Suiyuyan, round 1 :  6/9 hits
                    Chinese roll dice for 1 infantry in Suiyuyan, round 1 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians lost in Suiyuyan
                Japanese win, taking Suiyuyan from Chinese with 5 fighters, 1 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers remaining. Battle score for attacker is 3
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in Siam
                Japanese attack with 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Siam, round 1 :  0/3 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Siam, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Siam
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Siam, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 infantry in Siam, round 2 :  0/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the ANZAC lost in Siam
                Japanese win, taking Siam from ANZAC with 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 infantry
            Battle in Ceylon
            Battle in 46 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 2 bombers
                Americans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Japanese roll dice for 2 bombers in 46 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/2 hits
                    Americans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 46 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 destroyer owned by the Americans and 1 bomber owned by the Japanese lost in 46 Sea Zone
                Japanese win, taking Ceylon from UK_Pacific with 1 bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is -4
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 bomber
                Casualties for Americans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Buryatia
                Japanese attack with 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber
                Russians defend with 1 infantry
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter, 1 infantry and 1 tactical_bomber in Buryatia, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    Russians roll dice for 1 infantry in Buryatia, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 infantry owned by the Russians and 1 infantry owned by the Japanese lost in Buryatia
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 0
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 infantry
                Casualties for Russians: 1 infantry
            Battle in 54 Sea Zone
                Japanese attack with 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
                ANZAC defend with 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 cruiser, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 54 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/4 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport in 54 Sea Zone, round 1 :  2/3 hits
                    1 cruiser owned by the Japanese , 1 destroyer owned by the Japanese and 1 carrier owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 :  1/2 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 2 fighters and 1 transport in 54 Sea Zone, round 2 :  0/2 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/2 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 54 Sea Zone, round 3 :  0/1 hits
                    Japanese roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber in 54 Sea Zone, round 4 :  1/2 hits
                    ANZAC roll dice for 1 fighter and 1 transport in 54 Sea Zone, round 4 :  0/1 hits
                    1 fighter owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone
                    1 transport owned by the ANZAC lost in 54 Sea Zone
                Japanese win with 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 23
                Casualties for Japanese: 1 cruiser and 1 destroyer
                Casualties for ANZAC: 1 carrier, 2 fighters and 1 transport

Non Combat Move - Japanese
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from 54 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 cruiser moved from 44 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 submarine moved from 37 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Borneo to 43 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 43 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 aaGun moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Kwangtung to Kwangsi
            1 transport moved from 20 Sea Zone to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Philippines to 35 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Kwangsi
            1 infantry moved from Kiangsi to Anhwe
            3 infantry moved from Hopei to Anhwe
            5 fighters and 3 tactical_bombers moved from Suiyuyan to Anhwe
            3 fighters moved from Manchuria to Anhwe
            1 carrier and 1 transport moved from 6 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber moved from Buryatia to Amur
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 35 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 36 Sea Zone to Kwangsi
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Siam to Kwangsi
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from Java to 42 Sea Zone
            1 artillery, 1 infantry and 1 transport moved from 42 Sea Zone to 39 Sea Zone
            1 artillery and 1 infantry moved from 39 Sea Zone to Ceylon
            2 infantry moved from Celebes to 44 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 44 Sea Zone to 36 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 36 Sea Zone to French Indo China
            2 infantry moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 artillery moved from Yunnan to Kwangsi
            2 artilleries moved from Yunnan to French Indo China
            1 infantry moved from Szechwan to Yunnan
            1 bomber moved from 46 Sea Zone to Philippines
            1 carrier moved from 36 Sea Zone to 42 Sea Zone

Place Units - Japanese
            1 submarine placed in 6 Sea Zone
            4 fighters placed in Japan
            1 factory_minor placed in French Indo China
            1 factory_minor placed in Shantung
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Japanese from Kwangsi: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Japanese to Anhwe: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode

Turn Complete - Japanese
            Japanese collect 65 PUs; end with 65 PUs total
            Objective Japanese 4 Control Dutch East Indies: Japanese met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 70 PUs

Territory Summary for Japanese :

Caroline Islands : 1 aaGun, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Iwo Jima : 1 infantry
    Paulau Island : 1 infantry
    Shantung : 1 factory_minor
    Kwangsi : 1 airfield, 2 artilleries, 2 infantry and 2 tactical_bombers
    Japan : 3 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 factory_major, 4 fighters and 1 harbour
    Siam : 1 infantry
    Manchuria : 1 infantry
    Hainan : 1 harbour
    Shensi : 1 flag
    Yunnan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Suiyuyan : 1 flag, 1 infantry
    Kweichow : 1 flag
    Hunan : 1 flag
    Hopei : 1 flag
    Szechwan : 1 flag
    Sikang : 1 flag
    Anhwe : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 8 fighters, 5 infantry and 3 tactical_bombers
    Ceylon : 1 flag, 2 artilleries and 2 infantry
    Shan State : 1 flag
    Malaya : 1 flag, 1 harbour and 1 infantry
    Borneo : 1 flag
    Kwangtung : 1 flag, 1 harbour
    Philippines : 1 flag, 1 airfield, 1 bomber and 1 harbour
    Sakha : 1 flag
    Soviet Far East : 1 flag
    Amur : 1 flag, 1 fighter and 1 tactical_bomber
    Siberia : 1 flag
    French Indo China : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 5 artilleries, 1 factory_minor and 7 infantry
    Celebes : 1 flag
    Java : 1 flag
    Sumatra : 1 flag
    42 Sea Zone : 2 carriers, 1 cruiser, 1 fighter, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
    36 Sea Zone : 1 carrier and 4 transports
    35 Sea Zone : 1 destroyer and 2 submarines
    39 Sea Zone : 2 battleships, 1 carrier, 1 destroyer, 1 fighter, 1 tactical_bomber and 2 transports
    6 Sea Zone : 1 submarine

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 70
    Russians : 36 / 56
    Japanese : 65 / 70
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 3 / 3
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 10
    Italians : 23 / 40
    ANZAC : 10 / 20
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

[hobo]

Wow 4 fighter misses in a row… :roll:

[boldfresh]

@hobo:

Wow 4 fighter misses in a row… :roll:

Yeah that was nuts.  Looks like you are getting my only good luck all my other game I get bad luck…

[hobo]

TripleA Move Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 5 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone

Airborne Attack Move - Americans

[hobo]

Need scramble orders for spain.

[boldfresh]

nah, it wouldn’t feel right if i won that 104 battle too…  :wink:

[boldfresh]

no scramble to either zone

[hobo]

Go for it!  I wouldn’t be surprised if you won  :-P

Now lets see if your destroyer hits

[hobo]

Of course, both destroyers hit.

Why can’t I load from portugal and unload in gilbratar?  There’s no sea units there.  triplea glitch?

[boldfresh]

no, your transports were involved in the battle.  therefore they cannot be used in noncom.  i am really really surprised you are not aware of that rule if you were so dominant in AA50 - it hasn’t changed.

[boldfresh]

bottom line, if the seazone is hostile at the start of your turn, the transports in that zone cannot be used in noncom, period.  if you do not want them to end in that zone, then they must leave the zone in combat move, but then their turn is over wherever they stop.

[boldfresh]

that’s why it’s so powerful for german to own spain and have an IC.  :wink:

[hobo]

They weren’t part of combat, except for the one that dropped to gib… so I had to load them during combat phase then unload during ncm?

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Americans
            Americans buy 5 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Americans
            2 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            2 infantry and 1 transport moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            2 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Gibraltar
            1 submarine moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            3 fighters moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 91 Sea Zone to 104 Sea Zone

Airborne Attack Move - Americans

Combat - Americans
            Battle in 91 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 7 transports
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 7 transports in 91 Sea Zone, round 1 :  4/6 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 91 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                Units damaged: 1 battleship owned by the Americans
                    1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 91 Sea Zone
                Americans win with 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers and 7 transports remaining. Battle score for attacker is 8
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
            Battle in Gibraltar
            Battle in 104 Sea Zone
                Americans attack with 3 fighters, 1 submarine and 1 tactical_bomber
                Germans defend with 1 destroyer
                    Americans roll dice for 1 submarine in 104 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    Germans roll dice for 1 destroyer in 104 Sea Zone, round 1 :  1/1 hits
                    1 submarine owned by the Americans and 1 destroyer owned by the Germans lost in 104 Sea Zone
                Americans win, taking Gibraltar from Germans with 3 fighters and 1 tactical_bomber remaining. Battle score for attacker is 2
                Casualties for Germans: 1 destroyer
                Casualties for Americans: 1 submarine

Non Combat Move - Americans
            Turning on Edit Mode
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Eastern United States: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Gibraltar: 1 infantry
            EDIT: Removing units owned by Americans from Eastern United States: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Adding units owned by Americans to Gibraltar: 1 aaGun
            EDIT: Turning off Edit Mode
            1 tactical_bomber moved from Western United States to 91 Sea Zone
            1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters moved from 26 Sea Zone to 54 Sea Zone
            2 fighters moved from Hawaiian Islands to Queensland
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery and 6 infantry moved from Eastern United States to 101 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun, 1 artillery, 6 infantry and 4 transports moved from 101 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            6 infantry moved from 91 Sea Zone to Portugal
            1 artillery moved from 91 Sea Zone to Portugal
            1 tactical_bomber moved from 104 Sea Zone to United Kingdom
            3 fighters moved from 104 Sea Zone to 91 Sea Zone
            1 aaGun moved from 91 Sea Zone to Portugal

Place Units - Americans
            5 bombers and 1 tactical_bomber placed in Eastern United States

Turn Complete - Americans
            Americans collect 51 PUs; end with 51 PUs total
            Objective Americans 2 Outer Territories: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 56 PUs
            Objective Americans 3 Defense Obligations: Americans met a national objective for an additional 5 PUs; end with 61 PUs
            Objective Americans 1 Homeland: Americans met a national objective for an additional 10 PUs; end with 71 PUs

Territory Summary for Americans :

Queensland : 1 bomber and 2 fighters
    Guam : 1 airfield
    Wake Island : 1 airfield
    Western United States : 1 airfield, 1 armour, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 1 mech_infantry
    Hawaiian Islands : 2 aaGuns, 1 airfield, 1 harbour and 2 infantry
    Midway : 1 airfield
    54 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 2 destroyers and 4 fighters
    Central United States : 1 factory_major
    Central America : 1 harbour
    Eastern United States : 1 airfield, 5 bombers, 1 factory_major, 1 harbour and 1 tactical_bomber
    Gibraltar : 1 aaGun and 1 infantry
    United Kingdom : 1 tactical_bomber
    Portugal : 1 flag, 1 aaGun, 1 armour, 3 artilleries, 12 infantry and 3 mech_infantrys
    91 Sea Zone : 1 battleship, 2 carriers, 3 cruisers, 2 destroyers, 3 fighters, 1 tactical_bomber and 11 transports

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 70
    Russians : 36 / 56
    Japanese : 65 / 70
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 3 / 3
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 10
    Italians : 23 / 40
    ANZAC : 10 / 20
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

[hobo]

Nevermind I’ll change plans then… annoying  :|

Only difference is gib won’t hold now  :|

[hobo]

TripleA Turn Summary for game: World War II Global 1940 2nd Edition, version: 3.6

Game History

Round :5

Purchase Units - Chinese
            Trigger Chinese Loses Burma Road: Chinese has their production frontier changed to: productionChinese_Burma_Road_Closed
            Chinese buy 1 infantry; Remaining resources: 0 PUs;

Combat Move - Chinese

Non Combat Move - Chinese

Place Units - Chinese
            1 infantry placed in Tsinghai

Turn Complete - Chinese
            Chinese collect 3 PUs; end with 3 PUs total

Territory Summary for Chinese :

Tsinghai : 1 infantry

Production/PUs Summary :

Germans : 49 / 70
    Russians : 36 / 56
    Japanese : 65 / 70
    Americans : 51 / 71
    Chinese : 3 / 3
    British : 36 / 43
    UK_Pacific : 6 / 10
    Italians : 23 / 40
    ANZAC : 10 / 20
    French : 4 / 0
    Dutch : 0 / 0
    Mongolians : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Axis : 0 / 0
    Neutral_Allies : 0 / 0
    Neutral_True : 0 / 0

[gamerman01]

@hobo:

They weren’t part of combat, except for the one that dropped to gib… so I had to load them during combat phase then unload during ncm?

No, you can’t load them during the combat phase OR the noncombat phase with the transports that were in 91 at the start of your turn.  You would need a transport from another zone to come in during the noncombat phase to get them.

It was the same in AA50 - that rule is 4 1/2 years old

[hobo]

Actually that still doesn’t sound right since those transports weren’t part of combat since they didn’t amp invade.  Can I get a ruling on this before I move the brits?

[boldfresh]

No rush you can get a ruling but gamer is a rules authority.  If only krieg will suffice then go ahead and ask.  It is for sure already covered in the faq but I know its long and nearly impenetrable.

Cheers